The Gauntlet - May 28 - June 4

Vhailorx

simonsez wrote:

lv395 Fist/HB/Hood? And don't say "whales". Three tries, haven't even killed Hood yet, much less the other two.

They were "only* 250 or so for me, so take this fwiw, but I think I went Khan/lazy cap for that one. Focused on purple and red until good was down. Sacrficed Khan when imhb did get enough red (by that time I had dropped hood and just collected enough ap to drop iron fist). Then I used blue and purple to keep imhb stunned while I whittled him down. A punished red teamup or two might help.

Unknown

DrStrange-616 wrote:

Any advice on Sim 41? It's 297 Fury/298 XForce/297 4Thor for me.

I've not got a ton of options.

240 (166) LCap
180 (90) IW
166 Blade
166 Cage
160 Hulk
155 LDaken
155 (61) Mystique
153 IF
152 Patch
145 Cyc
138 (100) DP
135 DD
135 Loki

A few more 3* in the 100-120 range and the usual 2*s.

AP denial, take advantage of 4*Thor's blue when she uses it

hex706f726368

DrStrange-616 wrote:

Any advice on Sim 41? It's 297 Fury/298 XForce/297 4Thor for me.

I've not got a ton of options.

240 (166) LCap
180 (90) IW
166 Blade
166 Cage
160 Hulk
155 LDaken
155 (61) Mystique
153 IF
152 Patch
145 Cyc
138 (100) DP
135 DD
135 Loki

A few more 3* in the 100-120 range and the usual 2*s.

Is hood among your 3*'s? Most matches where I can bring hood/lcap in gauntlet, i do it. If you can hide a 5 blue cover hood behind your luke cage, you'll be steam rolling it once you can start tossing lcap's red and blue with the occasional intimidation if you need to stun lock someone.

DrStrange-616

I do have Hood, but he's only 120 and 5/3/5.

Vhailorx

DrStrange-616 wrote:

Any advice on Sim 41? It's 297 Fury/298 XForce/297 4Thor for me.

I've not got a ton of options.

240 (166) LCap
180 (90) IW
166 Blade
166 Cage
160 Hulk
155 LDaken
155 (61) Mystique
153 IF
152 Patch
145 Cyc
138 (100) DP
135 DD
135 Loki

A few more 3* in the 100-120 range and the usual 2*s.

I Think i used cage/patch/loki for that one. It's one of my standard overleveled pve teams. Collect green and black, then crush everyone with berserker rage/trickery. Loki will keep their ap down, and most of those characters are fairly slow.

DrStrange-616

Thanks, guys. I'll give it a try!

simonsez

hex706f726368 wrote:

simonsez wrote:

lv395 Fist/HB/Hood? And don't say "whales". Three tries, haven't even killed Hood yet, much less the other two.

Pretty sure I went PX/GSBW on this one.

Yeah, that was my first try, and I never got it going, even with boosting

Esheris

Need good suggestions, I'm on Node 39 (Punisher, Blade, 3*Magneto)

My main roster consists of lvl 94 fully covered Iron Fist, Cyclops, Sentry, 3*Magento, 3*Black Widow, Blade, Loki, Mystique, then fully covered 2*s.
I have tons of others at 94 just not fully covered (most still simi usable) but no 4*s above 3 covers.

Please help, I've thrown my whole roster at this level but no win yet.

Edit* I'd also like to add that Punisher, Blade, and Magneto all have well over 12k-13k health...all my attacks feel so small.

simonsez

Vhailorx wrote:

They were "only* 250 or so for me

Yeah, the problem is that at 395, the attack tile is doing so much damage, if I don't get a loop going within 6 or 8 turns, it's all over.

Arimis_Thorn

raisinbman wrote:

DrStrange-616 wrote:

Any advice on Sim 41? It's 297 Fury/298 XForce/297 4Thor for me.

I've not got a ton of options.

240 (166) LCap
180 (90) IW
166 Blade
166 Cage
160 Hulk
155 LDaken
155 (61) Mystique
153 IF
152 Patch
145 Cyc
138 (100) DP
135 DD
135 Loki

A few more 3* in the 100-120 range and the usual 2*s.

AP denial, take advantage of 4*Thor's blue when she uses it

I just used L Cap, She Hulk, Loki for this. Took out Fury first, then XF, THEN 4hor. Load up on Green to drain them out, then Cap cleans up. Loki was useful for ap steal and board shake, but Black went unused.

DrStrange-616

w00t! Did it. Couldn't use Patch because of XForce. Went in with Cage, LCap and OBW. Denied and stole what I could. Took out XF first, then Fury and finally 4Thor. Phew!

Thanks for the help. I don't know if I'll be able to finish this sucker, but this is the farthest I've gotten.

Arimis_Thorn

Thoughts on the final node? Can't use Whales because they have DP on their team.

Vhailorx

Esheris wrote:

Need good suggestions, I'm on Node 39 (Punisher, Blade, 3*Magneto)

My main roster consists of lvl 94 fully covered Iron Fist, Cyclops, Sentry, 3*Magento, 3*Black Widow, Blade, Loki, Mystique, then fully covered 2*s.
I have tons of others at 94 just not fully covered (most still simi usable) but no 4*s above 3 covers.

Please help, I've thrown my whole roster at this level but no win yet.

Edit* I'd also like to add that Punisher, Blade, and Magneto all have well over 12k-13k health...all my attacks feel so small.

Oops, yup, I must not have used patch in that level.

The cage/loki/obw team up is one that I just heard about recently (iliana from 'clever posted it a few pves ago) and it seems to work quite well, although it does take a while, so I wouldn't try it against iron first.

Esheris

Vhailorx wrote:

Esheris wrote:

Need good suggestions, I'm on Node 39 (Punisher, Blade, 3*Magneto)

My main roster consists of lvl 94 fully covered Iron Fist, Cyclops, Sentry, 3*Magento, 3*Black Widow, Blade, Loki, Mystique, then fully covered 2*s.
I have tons of others at 94 just not fully covered (most still simi usable) but no 4*s above 3 covers.

Please help, I've thrown my whole roster at this level but no win yet.

Edit* I'd also like to add that Punisher, Blade, and Magneto all have well over 12k-13k health...all my attacks feel so small.

Oops, yup, I must not have used patch in that level.

The cage/loki/obw team up is one that I just heard about recently (iliana from 'clever posted it a few pves ago) and it seems to work quite well, although it does take a while, so I wouldn't try it against iron first.

Thank you, once my roster isn't dead I'll try that. My Loki/obw are good, cage is 2/3/4 so not sure how great he will be.

If that doesn't work I think I might be able to get it with Iron Fist/Black Panther/Mystique with a lucky board.

Unknown

I'm pretty disappointed in this set of missions. I went with Prof X/Magneto/Mystique and it's pretty much either the game ends in 3 turns or I lose, and in some cases you can tell you already lost the game on turn 1, like say you matched a green, they have Daken and Falcon and then they matched yellow on their first turn because at level 395 that's 1K match 3s even if they got nothing going for the rest of the fight. I realize since they got a 4* at the end they have to make this stuff pretty hard, but there's got to be a better way to do this than just requiring Whales or running some kind of ultra degenerate combo and hope that you still didn't lose immediately after the first turn.

As is right now your best strategy is probably go in with Prof X and then immediately quit if there isn't a match 5 on the board, because you're still going to take less damage by quitting than pretty much anything the opponent can do, and since everything they do massively overkills you anyway starting with only 3K health isn't as bad as it seems.

simonsez

Phantron wrote:

there's got to be a better way to do this than just requiring Whales or running some kind of ultra degenerate combo and hope that you still didn't lose immediately after the first turn.

This pretty much sums it up. Anyone who thinks Gauntlet is awesome because it's such a "challenge", is either deluding themselves, or isn't dealing with absurd scaling. There's nothing "challenging" about repeating a node over and over and over again, waiting and hoping to get an unusually favorable board to start with. This takes as much skill as opening a token and hoping you get a 4*

Vhailorx

simonsez wrote:

Phantron wrote:

there's got to be a better way to do this than just requiring Whales or running some kind of ultra degenerate combo and hope that you still didn't lose immediately after the first turn.

This pretty much sums it up. Anyone who thinks Gauntlet is awesome because it's such a "challenge", is either deluding themselves, or isn't dealing with absurd scaling. There's nothing "challenging" about repeating a node over and over and over again, waiting and hoping to get an unusually favorable board to start with. This takes as much skill as opening a token and hoping you get a 4*

I may have a different perspective since I don't face 395s (i never saw anything above 320 or so). I am working with a deep 3* roster between 153 and 164 (no 4*s) used. I beat every node straight up (no whales, no boosts, just teamups) except for essential 18 (with bombs-away ultron). I don't know how anyone can beat that node without whales ( maybe if one had a covered is so they could hide behind the invis tile?)

So overall this gauntlet didnt seem much crueler than those in the past.

Also, ohantron, I don't think you can use a feast or famine roster like x/cmags/mystique and then complain that every match is either total victory or total defeat. That team lacks green coverage, and doesn't have any high-health tanks.

Pwuz_

simonsez wrote:

Phantron wrote:

there's got to be a better way to do this than just requiring Whales or running some kind of ultra degenerate combo and hope that you still didn't lose immediately after the first turn.

This pretty much sums it up. Anyone who thinks Gauntlet is awesome because it's such a "challenge", is either deluding themselves, or isn't dealing with absurd scaling. There's nothing "challenging" about repeating a node over and over and over again, waiting and hoping to get an unusually favorable board to start with. This takes as much skill as opening a token and hoping you get a 4*

While I'm not at the end yet; I am on Sim 41 against 377 team with nothing more than a roster of 25 level 166 3*s. Still have yet to resort to boosts or whales. I enjoy the challenge, and don't think a favorable board to start makes much of a difference as you may think. Even with my boosted to 240 L.Cap chucking shield throws for nearly 6k, it's still taking 3-4 to take down a single target.

Creative teams that can exploit the weaknesses of the opposing AI are certainly key. I have to say I love using Hulk to collect Green for GSBW, it's super effective against Iron Fist when he's over leveled. Every turn so much Anger!

Unknown

Vhailorx wrote:

simonsez wrote:

Phantron wrote:

there's got to be a better way to do this than just requiring Whales or running some kind of ultra degenerate combo and hope that you still didn't lose immediately after the first turn.

This pretty much sums it up. Anyone who thinks Gauntlet is awesome because it's such a "challenge", is either deluding themselves, or isn't dealing with absurd scaling. There's nothing "challenging" about repeating a node over and over and over again, waiting and hoping to get an unusually favorable board to start with. This takes as much skill as opening a token and hoping you get a 4*

I may have a different perspective since I don't face 395s (i never saw anything above 320 or so). I am working with a deep 3* roster between 153 and 164 (no 4*s) used. I beat every node straight up (no whales, no boosts, just teamups) except for essential 18 (with bombs-away ultron). I don't know how anyone can beat that node without whales ( maybe if one had a covered is so they could hide behind the invis tile?)

So overall this gauntlet didnt seem much crueler than those in the past.

Also, ohantron, I don't think you can use a feast or famine roster like x/cmags/mystique and then complain that every match is either total victory or total defeat. That team lacks green coverage, and doesn't have any high-health tanks.

I'd much rather repeat Gauntlet nodes over and over again, knowing I'll get a 4* cover and some 3* covers than do...anything else in this game besides maybe Anniversary events/Deadpool daily/Ultron Event.

Arimis Thorn wrote:

Thoughts on the final node? Can't use Whales because they have DP on their team.

AP denial/true healers/Kamala/OBW

Unknown

Vhailorx wrote:

simonsez wrote:

Phantron wrote:

there's got to be a better way to do this than just requiring Whales or running some kind of ultra degenerate combo and hope that you still didn't lose immediately after the first turn.

This pretty much sums it up. Anyone who thinks Gauntlet is awesome because it's such a "challenge", is either deluding themselves, or isn't dealing with absurd scaling. There's nothing "challenging" about repeating a node over and over and over again, waiting and hoping to get an unusually favorable board to start with. This takes as much skill as opening a token and hoping you get a 4*

I may have a different perspective since I don't face 395s (i never saw anything above 320 or so). I am working with a deep 3* roster between 153 and 164 (no 4*s) used. I beat every node straight up (no whales, no boosts, just teamups) except for essential 18 (with bombs-away ultron). I don't know how anyone can beat that node without whales ( maybe if one had a covered is so they could hide behind the invis tile?)

Why would you not run at least iso 8 boosts unless you're just the luckiest guy around? These things are hard enough even with them. Maybe you don't need to run AP+all boosts. If they're not at 395 and they don't have someone that does ability damage on match 3s (Blade, Daken, OBW, Iron Fist) you can probably beat them with some combination of The Hood or Loki + boosted characters but there's really better things to do with your time than fighting these guys straight up. At 395 it took a while to go through 50K HP or so which is pretty normal for 3 395s and even if there's no threat of losing (yeah right), you want to run some kind of broken combo so that you don't get tired of hitting abilities over and over again. I think there are some turns I went through 10 Master Plans and you're not going to get a faster kill than that without incurring a lot more risk and it still took way too long to win.