Best There Is - PvP tourney

Eddiemon

GEFPenst wrote:

Veracity wrote:

Or just replace them all with BattleAngel.

She's such a wallet warrior. I saw her using a pretty high-level Daredevil in the LRs, and there's no way she made 30k on Oscorp with what her PvE MMR must be like. No wonder poor old B@C0N_M@G1C struggles to keep up.

Yeah, I guess she takes all his moneys and spends it on MPQ. Poor guy.

I reported her for hacking. No way she's legit.

And as if a girl would play video games. I wonder if B@con realises she's a dude?

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I keep hearing guys talking about tanking on LR. I thought there is no such thing as tanking in LR, because they are unbracketed meaning you are competing against the entire player base. Is there a second factor that strickly determines who is in your fight queue? Is the MMR system different from the bracketing system? Is this why Rangofett is always at the top of tournaments but I never get to see him?

As far as the guy speaking earlier about catching up: the game accelerates, so new players can't catch up. You have to bridge the gap with money. You can diminish your pains by playing smart, but it's very hard to catch up. I had to sell Thor and Wolverine when they got nerfed and drop real cash to become somewhat competitive in the 3* range. Even then, I just got dropped to top 50 on LR even though I left the tourney at 20. With a 3* team at almost lvl 100, I can't break top 25.

Coverwise: You need to participate in the character tourneys to get a cover. I have a problem where i don't have the red hulk cover. I can't buy it and i'm left with random chance. Eventually this is going to be a big handicap. I make up for it by teaming him with guys with strong red.

ISO: this is your strongest asset. Don't do what I did, buy 25+ slots, level everyone, etc. Start with a 2* team and skip 1*. Pick 3 3* and level them, not all the 3 stars you have. I would probably have 3 3*'s maxed out if I had known at the beginning what I know now.

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klingsor wrote:

I keep hearing guys talking about tanking on LR. I thought there is no such thing as tanking in LR, because they are unbracketed meaning you are competing against the entire player base. Is there a second factor that strickly determines who is in your fight queue? Is the MMR system different from the bracketing system? Is this why Rangofett is always at the top of tournaments but I never get to see him?

MMR is the pool of players you see when you fight. Brackets are your grouping for placement purposes. They have no relation to one another. LR's are unbracketed so you are lumped with everybody, but you will still only fight within your MMR.

"Tanking" refers to being hit multiple times and losing points with the goal of lowering your MMR. LR work well for this because there are a lot of rounds. Your MMR goes down based on both getting smacked, and finishing low in tournaments.

Now, the only way to tank is to keep a seed team, acquire some points, then fight and beat your last seed team with a **** team.

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jozier wrote:

klingsor wrote:

I keep hearing guys talking about tanking on LR. I thought there is no such thing as tanking in LR, because they are unbracketed meaning you are competing against the entire player base. Is there a second factor that strickly determines who is in your fight queue? Is the MMR system different from the bracketing system? Is this why Rangofett is always at the top of tournaments but I never get to see him?

MMR is the pool of players you see when you fight. Brackets are your grouping for placement purposes. They have no relation to one another. LR's are unbracketed so you are lumped with everybody, but you will still only fight within your MMR.

"Tanking" refers to being hit multiple times and losing points with the goal of lowering your MMR. LR work well for this because there are a lot of rounds. Your MMR goes down based on both getting smacked, and finishing low in tournaments.

Now, the only way to tank is to keep a seed team, acquire some points, then fight and beat your last seed team with a **** team.

Thanks for the clarification. One more question please. Can I tank in the shield versus? I tend to hover in the top 25, but I could fight with a weak team then get pummeled to the bottom. Like A Patch, Bagman, black widow 1* team or something like that. Would that help me for LR?

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klingsor wrote:

Thanks for the clarification. One more question please. Can I tank in the shield versus? I tend to hover in the top 25, but I could fight with a weak team then get pummeled to the bottom. Like A Patch, Bagman, black widow 1* team or something like that. Would that help me for LR?

Yes, SHIELD training is also PVP so MMR is active there too.

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Well, this was new: someone attacked me while I was at sub-30 points from 100-odd. Sure, I'm futzing around with a level 25 Loki so it's an easy win and I'd expect to get hammered out of seed team rating range, but how desperate for an opponent do you need to be to do that? -2 for +31? Sure, if you insist. I suppose there is the fact this has character nodes, so you miss a few retaliations you would've been hit with, otherwise. Maybe thought I was tanking; apologies if so.

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Linxis wrote:

klingsor wrote:

Thanks for the clarification. One more question please. Can I tank in the shield versus? I tend to hover in the top 25, but I could fight with a weak team then get pummeled to the bottom. Like A Patch, Bagman, black widow 1* team or something like that. Would that help me for LR?

Yes, SHIELD training is also PVP so MMR is active there too.

Alright Guys, I am fielding my Loki, Patch, Black Widow 1* teams on Shield Training. Come get it boys and girls, you know you want it!

Kelbris

klingsor wrote:

Linxis wrote:

klingsor wrote:

Thanks for the clarification. One more question please. Can I tank in the shield versus? I tend to hover in the top 25, but I could fight with a weak team then get pummeled to the bottom. Like A Patch, Bagman, black widow 1* team or something like that. Would that help me for LR?

Yes, SHIELD training is also PVP so MMR is active there too.

Alright Guys, I am fielding my Loki, Patch, Black Widow 1* teams on Shield Training. Come get it boys and girls, you know you want it!

Win like, 3 fights.

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Kelbris wrote:

klingsor wrote:

Linxis wrote:

klingsor wrote:

Thanks for the clarification. One more question please. Can I tank in the shield versus? I tend to hover in the top 25, but I could fight with a weak team then get pummeled to the bottom. Like A Patch, Bagman, black widow 1* team or something like that. Would that help me for LR?

Yes, SHIELD training is also PVP so MMR is active there too.

Alright Guys, I am fielding my Loki, Patch, Black Widow 1* teams on Shield Training. Come get it boys and girls, you know you want it!

Win like, 3 fights.

Are you saying you have to win 3 wins with the throwaway team instead of just one?

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Only purple on the board was just open for an L 5-match and I had 9 green. Is there a boost I can pay for to get that more often?

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What do people mean by 'bad MMR' anyway? In The Best There Is my team is 92 Patch 92 Spiderman 99 Hulk. Generally my opposition is 3 level 85 guys, though I ran into a couple level 100 and one guy with a level 141 Punisher/level 110 Patch. That seems to be a pretty reasonable mix of opponents for the team I was fielding. I smashed them all except the level 141 Punisher, which I foolishly went into the battle with Spiderman at 50% health and needed a lot of luck to win that one without losing Spiderman, and if I lost that fight I wouldn't consider it a crime against humanity especially since it was still an easy win until I realized I didn't have Spiderman start at full health (winning too fast gives you no time to heal!)

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Phantron wrote:

What do people mean by 'bad MMR' anyway? In The Best There Is my team is 92 Patch 92 Spiderman 99 Hulk. Generally my opposition is 3 level 85 guys, though I ran into a couple level 100 and one guy with a level 141 Punisher/level 110 Patch. That seems to be a pretty reasonable mix of opponents for the team I was fielding. I smashed them all except the level 141 Punisher, which I foolishly went into the battle with Spiderman at 50% health and needed a lot of luck to win that one without losing Spiderman, and if I lost that fight I wouldn't consider it a crime against humanity especially since it was still an easy win until I realized I didn't have Spiderman start at full health (winning too fast gives you no time to heal!)

Presumably in your case your MMR is lower than it should be, so you face weaker opponents on the whole? I don't understand if it's W/L ratio that determines MMR, or tournament placement. I put out a weak team on shield training, but I am not being attacked as much as I wanted, so I'm not experiencing any benefits at all. I still have teams of the same strength, around my level.

Bacon Pants

locked wrote:

Bacon Pants wrote:

Anyone see me in there bracket? Just curious. While at work today I grinded to 300 points and shielded...Last time I played this event I got close to 300 and was knocked back down to 198...Didn't want to risk it today. Hopefully I can grind another 300 tonight, shield over night, and try to maintain a top 15 finish. I need that 5th blue cover for Peter Parker.

But what about the incoming nerfage? I will try to place at least top 45 myself, top 15 seems both unreachable and I am totally unsure about a 4th blue cover. Who knows what comes to Spidey's blue? It could become much less useful like Thor's red.

The completionist in me must have that 5th Blue cover. It will most likely be affected by the nerf, but I need it nonetheless. I've been at 598 all day, I was unshielded for maybe 30 seconds, in that time I got knocked down to 555. I may just shield the rest of the event, I'm sitting in second and the rest of the top ten keeps fluctuating...first has 630, me at 555, and third at 476. With the way the attacks have been I may be able to finish 2-5 without playing another match.

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Just hit 100 for my second Token....don't need any spidey so going to try to finish in 200-250 place for 3 tokens and hope for the best LoL

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klingsor wrote:

Phantron wrote:

What do people mean by 'bad MMR' anyway? In The Best There Is my team is 92 Patch 92 Spiderman 99 Hulk. Generally my opposition is 3 level 85 guys, though I ran into a couple level 100 and one guy with a level 141 Punisher/level 110 Patch. That seems to be a pretty reasonable mix of opponents for the team I was fielding. I smashed them all except the level 141 Punisher, which I foolishly went into the battle with Spiderman at 50% health and needed a lot of luck to win that one without losing Spiderman, and if I lost that fight I wouldn't consider it a crime against humanity especially since it was still an easy win until I realized I didn't have Spiderman start at full health (winning too fast gives you no time to heal!)

Presumably in your case your MMR is lower than it should be, so you face weaker opponents on the whole? I don't understand if it's W/L ratio that determines MMR, or tournament placement. I put out a weak team on shield training, but I am not being attacked as much as I wanted, so I'm not experiencing any benefits at all. I still have teams of the same strength, around my level.

Why would you say that? Nemek's roster has only one level 141 character last time I checked, so from a pure level point of view he's no stronger than the level 141 Punisher guy I ran into. I've been looking at people's rosters in PvP/PvE events and you usually won't see anybody with a single character at level 141 in your bracket with the exception of LR. So even seeing one such guy with a level 141 should be pretty high up there. As far as I can tell all the opponents I face are pretty close to my cumulative level (283), and I saw quite a few high level Magneto, Spiderman, GWBS, Punisher, Hulk, and so on. Not level 141, but plenty of 100s.

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Phantron wrote:

klingsor wrote:

Phantron wrote:

What do people mean by 'bad MMR' anyway? In The Best There Is my team is 92 Patch 92 Spiderman 99 Hulk. Generally my opposition is 3 level 85 guys, though I ran into a couple level 100 and one guy with a level 141 Punisher/level 110 Patch. That seems to be a pretty reasonable mix of opponents for the team I was fielding. I smashed them all except the level 141 Punisher, which I foolishly went into the battle with Spiderman at 50% health and needed a lot of luck to win that one without losing Spiderman, and if I lost that fight I wouldn't consider it a crime against humanity especially since it was still an easy win until I realized I didn't have Spiderman start at full health (winning too fast gives you no time to heal!)

Presumably in your case your MMR is lower than it should be, so you face weaker opponents on the whole? I don't understand if it's W/L ratio that determines MMR, or tournament placement. I put out a weak team on shield training, but I am not being attacked as much as I wanted, so I'm not experiencing any benefits at all. I still have teams of the same strength, around my level.

Why would you say that? Nemek's roster has only one level 141 character last time I checked, so from a pure level point of view he's no stronger than the level 141 Punisher guy I ran into. I've been looking at people's rosters in PvP/PvE events and you usually won't see anybody with a single character at level 141 in your bracket with the exception of LR. So even seeing one such guy with a level 141 should be pretty high up there. As far as I can tell all the opponents I face are pretty close to my cumulative level (283), and I saw quite a few high level Magneto, Spiderman, GWBS, Punisher, Hulk, and so on. Not level 141, but plenty of 100s.

it doesn't equate your cumulative level with their cumulative level. My cumulative level is 293 but I'm facing a 255. It has to factor the number of wins and loses you have. I don't know, I'm trying to figure this out myself. I don't think you are in MMR hell, just MMR parity from what it sounds like.

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I've fought one match yesterday to get in a bracket and I have over 100 points now without playing. I'm liking this no 3 tries stuff.

Mawtful

ugh, just lost a fight due to some pretty unlucky cascading.

Somehow 550 points - 30 points = 498 points.

Definitely no other attacks at the same time.

Edit: Welp, there goes my shot at #1. Just got smashed for another 100+ points.

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Mawtful wrote:

ugh, just lost a fight due to some pretty unlucky cascading.

Somehow 550 points - 30 points = 498 points.

Definitely no other attacks at the same time.

Edit: Welp, there goes my shot at #1. Just got smashed for another 100+ points.

Isn't there a day left in this tourney? You can get back up there easy

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Phantron wrote:

What do people mean by 'bad MMR' anyway?

"I'm not getting a cornucopia of +30 facerolls at 500+ rating and I don't like it", like as not.