Coming Soon: Character Updates!

GrumpySmurf1002

TazFTW wrote:

Teke184 wrote:

This doesn't even go into the level changes in ISO costs, which damn well BETTER compensate those of us who have been working to put ISO into characters only to have the total cost sliced.

I'm reading that as the amount of iso to take a level 40 to 166 stays the same and that they're changing it so that the lower levels are cheaper and making the higher levels more expensive.

Problem is what happens to your level 100ish guys. Did the cost to raise them just increase?

GuntherBlobel

Koko81 wrote:

"Finally, we’re making some changes in level-up costs for 3-Star and 4-Star characters. In order to help players get their 3-Star and 4-Star characters into a useful state more quickly, we’re making it cheaper to level them up at lower levels. We don’t have final numbers at the moment, so stay tuned."


As if the Xforce Nerf wasn't enough, this is what we get. I don't think they are realizing that the problem isn't getting the lower levels up, the problem is dumping all that iso into 1 (ONE) character when there are another 100 (hundred?) of them sitting on the bench. I don't understand who has calculated the actual worth of all these resources. Where do all these values come from?!?!

I'm a numbers guy. I wanna know why a 4* cover (albeit the characters do feel like 3*s) is worth 2500HP (~20$) and a 3* Character is 1250HP. I wanna know why it takes ~400-500$ to level up a 4*. Where did that worth come from? Was it calculated? Is it wheel of fortune style? It's "MIND BOGGLING"

I'll tell you why: it's a F2P gimmick. Whales don't make rational decisions! They don't have a budget or a cost/improvement ratio that they dare not cross.

You're a math guy, so you'll understand what I mean when I say that everything in this game is non-linear. If you want more, you have to pay or play more than you did before.

Unknown

Wow, this is going to be an ENTIRELY different game. Even I (who thinks the Thor nerf was fine) have to say you went too far on poor XForce though

Unknown

I'm out. Not worth the time

evil panda

Grrrrr....

ynglink

So for those of you that still think this is a wall of text and hard to read. I copied my post edit from the last thread to here.

So looking at this, still need to evaluate the abilities, but this format does not look good. Suggest editing it so new abilities are up top grouped together with current below it. Will edit this post when I go back over it.

Invisible Woman (Classic)
Invisible Woman is our 2nd oldest 4-Star character and has been waiting patiently for an update for a long time. When we originally designed her, we were balancing for a version of the game with longer, more difficult matches. In that version of the game, powerful, high-cost powers have more use and damage prevention is more powerful. When re-evaluating her abilities, we had a big focus on utility. Her two unique powers got a lot cheaper, allowing players to use them much more frequently. She should be locking tiles and making people invisible all the time, not occasionally at the end of the match.

Old Max Health: 8,220

Grant Invisibility - Cost: 18 to 14 Yellow AP - OLD
The Invisible Woman hides the weakest member of the team. Converts a random basic Yellow tile into an Invisibility tile. While it’s on the board, the invisible character can’t be targeted.
Upgrades:
+Costs 1 AP less.
+Costs 1 AP less.
+Costs 1 AP less.
+Costs 1 AP less.

Force Bubbles - Cost: 13 Blue AP - OLD
Susan focuses her power to lock the enemy down and save the team. Locks 2 chosen tiles in Force Bubbles before creating a Blue Protect tile of strength 91.
Upgrades:
+ Locks 5 in Force Bubbles.
+ Creates a Blue Protect tile of strength 200.
+ Locks 8 in Force Bubbles.
+ Creates a Blue Protect tile of strength 400.
MAX LV 5: Creates a Blue Protect tile of strength 796.

Force Field Crush - Cost: 9 Green AP - OLD
Invisible Woman shatters the tiles surrounding 1 random Force Bubbles. Each Force Bubble deals 91 damage and is unlocked (but not destroyed). If there are no Force Bubbles, she creates 1 in random locations. Ends the turn.
Upgrades:
+ Shatters the tiles around and unlocks 2. If there are no locked tiles, makes 2.
+ Deals 182 damage per unlocked tile.
+ Shatters the tiles around and unlocks 3. If there are no locked tiles, makes 3.
+ Deals 364 damage per unlocked tile.
MAX LV 5: Deals 724 damage per unlocked tile.

New Max Health: 13,015

Grant Invisibility - Cost: 9 Yellow AP - NEW
The Invisible Woman hides the weakest member of the team. Converts a random basic Yellow tile into an Invisibility tile. While it’s on the board, the invisible character can’t be targeted.
Upgrades:
+ Also creates 1 protect tile of strength 50.
+ Also creates 2 protect tiles of strength 50.
+ Also creates 2 protect tiles of strength 92.
+ Also creates 4 protect tiles of strength 92.
MAX LV 5: Also creates 4 protect tiles of strength 184.

Force Bubbles - Cost: 7 Blue AP - NEW
Susan focuses her power to lock the enemy down and save the team. Locks 2 chosen basic tiles in Force Bubbles before creating a Blue Protect tile of strength 64.
Upgrades:
+ Locks 3 selected basic tiles and makes a protect tile of strength 86.
+ Can Lock Strike, Protect, and Attack tiles.
+ Locks 4 selected tiles and makes a protect tile of strength 107.
+ Locks 4 selected tiles of any type and makes a protect tile of strength 127.
MAX LV 5: Locks 4 selected tiles of any type and makes a protect tile of strength 252.

Force Field Crush - Cost: 12 Green AP - NEW
Invisible Woman shatters the tiles surrounding 2 random Force Bubbles. Does not generate AP. Each Force Bubble deals 64 damage and is unlocked (but not destroyed). If there are no Force Bubbles, she creates 2 in random locations.
Upgrades:
+ Deals 283 damage per unlocked Force Bubble.
+ Deals 503 damage per unlocked Force Bubble.
+ Destroys 3 Force Bubbles and the tiles surrounding them. If there are no locked tiles, makes 3.
+ Deals 1070 damage per unlocked Force Bubble.
MAX LV 5: Deals 2123 damage per unlocked Force Bubble.

Elektra (Unkillable) - Coming 4/17/15
Elektra is a very unique character in MPQ. She plays very differently from other characters in that she is capable of dealing huge amounts of damage but only indirectly. She’s also the only character in the game who can stop any amount of damage. We wanted to update Elektra, but maintain her unique playstyle, and we found we were able to make her more powerful without being unbalanced.

Old Max Health: 10,960

Double-Double Cross - Cost: 7 Purple AP - OLD
Elektra has “defected” to the enemy team, she’s working for them while secretly feeding her true allies powerful information. Elektra steals 1 enemy strike tile, improving it’s strength by 55, but she also converts 3 random purple basic tiles into enemy strike tiles of strength 9.
Upgrades:
+ The stolen tile increases its strength by 95.
+ The stolen tile increases its strength by 128
+ Elektra steals up to 2 enemy strike tiles, increasing their strength by 73.
+ Elektra steals 1 additional strike tile if there’s a friendly trap tile on the board. Stolen tiles increase their strength by 102.
MAX LV 5: Elektra steals 1 additional strike tile if there’s a friendly trap tile on the board. Stolen tiles increase their strength by 203.

Shadow Step - Cost: 10 Black AP - OLD[/b]
Elektra senses an attack coming and prepares to dodge into the shadows. She converts 2 random basic Black tiles into trap tiles. If Elektra would take damage, the damage is negated and a trap tile is destroyed, generating AP and dealing 137 damage.
Upgrades:
+ Trap tiles deal 301 damage
+ Elektra converts 3 tiles into trap tiles, tiles deal 210 damage
+ Trap tiles deal 429 damage
+ Elektra converts 4 tiles into trap tiles
MAX LV 5: Elektra converts 4 tiles into trap tiles, tiles deal 852 damage[/color]

Ballet of Death - Cost: 10 Red AP - OLD
Death is a dance and only Elektra knows the next blood-soaked step. She converts a random basic Red tile into a trap tile. As long as this tile is on the board, it deals 137 damage to the target enemy at the beginning of every turn.
Upgrades:
+ The Trap tile deals 192 damage every turn.
+ The Trap tile deals 247 damage every turn.
+ The Trap tile deals 356 damage every turn.
+ The Trap tile deals 575 damage every turn.
MAX LV 5: The Trap tile deals 1142 damage every turn.

New Max Health: 13,974

Double-Double Cross - Cost: 7 Purple AP - NEW
Elektra has “defected” to the enemy team, she’s working for them while secretly feeding her true allies powerful information. Elektra steals 1 enemy strike tile, improving it’s strength by 73, but she also converts 3 random purple basic tiles into enemy strike tiles of strength 9.
Upgrades:
+ The stolen tile increases its strength by 110
+ Elektra steals up to 2 enemy strike tiles, increasing their strength by 73.
+ The stolen tile increases its strength by 93.
+ Elektra steals 1 additional strike tile if there’s a friendly trap tile on the board. Stolen tiles increase their strength by 123.
MAX LV 5: Elektra steals 1 additional strike tile if there’s a friendly trap tile on the board. Stolen tiles increase their strength by 245.


Shadow Step - Cost: 10 Black AP - NEW
Elektra senses an attack coming and prepares to dodge into the shadows. She converts 2 random basic Black tiles into trap tiles. If Elektra would take damage, the damage is negated and a trap tile is destroyed, generating AP and dealing 274 damage.
Upgrades:
+ Elektra converts 3 tiles into trap tiles
+ Trap tiles deal 310 damage
+ Elektra converts 4 tiles into trap tiles
+ Elektra converts 5 tiles into trap tiles, tiles deal 466 damage
MAX LV 5: Elektra converts 5 tiles into trap tiles, tiles deal 925 damage

Ballet of Death - Cost: 8 Red AP - NEW
Death is a dance and only Elektra knows the next blood-soaked step. She converts a random basic Red tile into a trap tile. As long as this tile is on the board, it deals 150 damage to the target enemy at the beginning of every turn.
Upgrades:
+ The Trap tile deals 210 damage every turn.
+ The Trap tile deals 270 damage every turn.
+ The Trap tile deals 390 damage every turn.
+ The Trap tile deals 630 damage every turn.
MAX LV 5: The Trap tile deals 1247 damage every turn.

Wolverine (X-Force) - Coming 4/17/15
X-Force was our first 4-star character. He’s been through a few incarnations, some too weak and some too powerful. We’ve realized that we’d made him too powerful compared to other characters, especially the AP generation and cascade potential of his most recent Black and Green abilities. We’ve re-designed him to bring those abilities into line. The damage of Surgical Strike and Recovery had room to grow, so we’ve increased that as part of this rework.

OLD

X-Force - Cost: 8 Green AP - OLD
Wolverine unleashes his berserker rage, cutting with his adamantium claws. Deals 164 damage and destroys 5 tiles in a 3x3 X-Shaped pattern. Does not generate AP.
Upgrades:
+ Deals 465 damage.
+ Destroys 9 tiles in a 5x5 X-Shaped pattern.
+ Deals 1030 damage.
+ Deals 1731 damage and destroys 15 tiles in 3 3x3 X-Shaped patterns
MAX LV 5: Deals 3441 damage and destroys 15 tiles in 3 3x3 X-Shaped patterns


Surgical Strike - Cost: 11 Black AP - OLD
Wolverine attacks with ruthless precision, crippling his enemy’s ability to retaliate. Destroys every tile in the enemy team’s strongest color, dealing 32 damage per tile.
Upgrades:
+ Deals 87 damage per tile.
+ Deals 137 damage per tile.
+ Also drains the enemy’s strongest AP pool by 10 AP.
+ Deals 265 damage per tile. Destroyed tiles now generate AP.
MAX LV 5: Deals 522 damage per tile.

Recovery - Cost: 9 Yellow AP - OLD
Wolverine’s healing factor repairs his wounds, and he ferociously lashes out if interrupted. Places a 3-turn Yellow Countdown tile that heals for 1187 health when activated. If the Countdown tile is matched, Wolverine destroys 6 random tiles, dealing 32 damage per tile.
Upgrades:
+ Heals Wolverine for 1662 or deals 45 damage per tile.
+ Heals Wolverine for 2137 or deals 58 damage per tile.
+ Heals Wolverine for 3086 or deals 83 damage per tile.
+ Heals Wolverine for 4985 or destroys 9 tiles.
MAX LV 5: Heals Wolverine for 9899 or destroys 9 tiles. 164 damage per tile.

NEW

X-Force - Cost: 8 Green AP - NEW
Wolverine unleashes his berserker rage, cutting with his adamantium claws. Deals 137 damage and destroys 5 tiles in a 3x3 X-Shaped pattern. Does not generate AP.
Upgrades:
+ Deals 183 damage.
+ Destroys 9 tiles in a 5x5 X-Shaped pattern.
+ Deals 548 damage.
+ Deals 685 damage and destroys 15 tiles in 3 3x3 X-Shaped patterns
MAX LV 5: Deals 1360 damage and destroys 15 tiles in 3 3x3 X-Shaped patterns

Surgical Strike - Cost: 11 Black AP - NEW
Wolverine attacks with ruthless precision, crippling his enemy’s ability to retaliate. Destroys every tile in the enemy team’s strongest color, dealing 55 damage per tile.
Upgrades:
+ Deals 96 damage per tile.
+ Deals 138 damage per tile.
+ Deals 225 damage per tile.
+ Deals 394 damage per tile.
MAX LV 5: Deals 781 damage per tile.

Recovery - Cost: 9 Yellow AP - NEW
Wolverine’s healing factor repairs his wounds, and he ferociously lashes out if interrupted. Places a 3-turn Yellow Countdown tile that heals for 1187 health when activated. If the Countdown tile is matched, Wolverine destroys 6 random tiles, dealing 55 damage per tile.
Upgrades:
+ Heals Wolverine for 1662 or deals 92 damage per tile.
+ Heals Wolverine for 2137 or deals 138 damage per tile.
+ Heals Wolverine for 3086 or deals 202 damage per tile.
+ Heals Wolverine for 4985 or destroys 9 tiles.
MAX LV 5: Heals Wolverine for 9899 or destroys 9 tiles. 400 damage per tile.

Beast (Classic) - Coming 4/17/15
We think we captured the essence of Beast as a character, but he wasn’t very useful, and players didn’t feel there was a strong reason to bring him to a fight over other characters. Considering that the bulk of Beast’s power banks on the presence of Blue special tiles, we made his Blue more reliable. The original design made it too easy to match away the special tiles it created, but this re-design solves that problem. We also increased the strength of his other two powers.

Old Max Health: 6,800

Mutagenic Breakthrough - Cost: 8 Blue AP - OLD
Hank’s genetic experiments can have unpredictable results. Creates a 3-turn Blue Countdown tile that converts 4 surrounding basic tiles into strength 22 Blue Strike, Protect or Attack tiles.
Upgrades:
+ Creates strength 28 Special tiles.
+ Creates a 2-turn Countdown tile.
+ Creates strength 33 Special tiles.
+ Creates a 1-turn Countdown tile.
MAX LV 5: Creates strength 105 Special tiles.

Animal Inside - Cost: 9 Green AP - OLD
Jumping and slashing as he moves through enemies, Hank can barely control his animal side. Deals 137 to all enemies. If there’s a friendly Blue Special tile on the board, Beast smashes up his lab destroying 3 random tiles, each dealing 33 to all enemies, but not generating AP.
Upgrades:
+ Deals 164 to all enemies.
+ If there is a friendly Blue Special tile on the board, destroys 6 tiles.
+ Deals 219 to all enemies.
+ If there is a friendly Blue Special tile on the board, destroys 12 tiles.
MAX LV 5: Deals 696 to all enemies, destroys 12 tiles dealing 104 damage per tile.

Medical Marvel - Cost: 11 Yellow AP - OLD
Dr. McCoy uses his medical triage skills to patch up the team before they rush back into battle. Gives a burst of 274 health to allies. If there’s a friendly Blue Special tile on the board, he provides a gadget to aid them. 1 basic Yellow tile becomes a strength 16 Protect tile.
Upgrades:
+ Gives a burst of 356 health to allies.
+ Creates 2 protect tiles of strength 16.
+ Gives a burst of 493 health to allies.
+ Creates 3 protect tiles of strength 21.
MAX LV 5: Heals for 1564 health and creates 3 protect tiles of strength 69.

New Max Health: 8,670

Mutagenic Breakthrough - Cost: 6 Blue AP - NEW
Hank’s genetic experiments can have unpredictable results. Creates a 3-turn Blue Countdown tile that converts 2 random Blue basic tiles into strength 44 Strike, Protect or Attack tiles.
Upgrades:
+ Creates a 2-turn Countdown tile.
+ Creates strength 51 Special tiles.
+ Creates a 1-turn Countdown tile and strength 55 Special tiles.
+ Creates 3 Special tiles.
MAX LV 5: Creates 3 Special tiles of strength 174.


Animal Inside - Cost: 9 Green AP - NEW
Jumping and slashing as he moves through enemies, Hank can barely control his animal side. Deals 192 to all enemies. If there’s a friendly Blue Special tile on the board, Beast smashes up his lab destroying 3 random basic tiles, each dealing 33 to all enemies, but not generating AP.
Upgrades:
+ Deals 219 to all enemies.
+ If there is a friendly Blue Special tile on the board, destroys 6 tiles.
+ Deals 246 to all enemies.
+ If there is a friendly Blue Special tile on the board, destroys 12 tiles.
MAX LV 5: Deals 780 to all enemies, destroys 12 tiles dealing 104 damage per tile.

Medical Marvel - Cost: 11 Yellow AP - NEW
Dr. McCoy uses his medical triage skills to patch up the team before they rush back into battle. Gives a burst of 383 health to allies. If there’s a friendly Blue Special tile on the board, he provides a gadget to aid them. 1 basic Blue tile becomes a strength 16 Protect tile.
Upgrades:
+ Gives a burst of 490 health to allies.
+ Creates 2 protect tiles of strength 16.
+ Gives a burst of 689 health to allies.
+ Creates 3 protect tiles of strength 37.
MAX LV 5: Heals for 2191 health and creates 3 protect tiles of strength 121.

Doctor Octopus (Otto Octavius) - Coming 4/17/15
Doctor Octopus is an interesting take on a utility character. He manipulates the game board and reacts to actions instead of directly damaging other characters. He has a huge breadth of ability effects, but there are a lot of times when only a few of those effects are useful. We wanted to really focus on increasing the usefulness of his different powers with this update.


Old Max Health: 6,800

Manipulation - Cost: 11 Blue AP - OLD
Dr. Octavius reaches out with his mechanical arms to use controls and devices, smashing enemy plans easily. Swaps 8 pairs of random tiles, destroying any swapped enemy Attack tiles, and dealing 110 damage for each tile destroyed.
Upgrades:
+ Also destroys enemy Strike tiles.
+ Deals 146 damage per tile destroyed.
+ Also destroys enemy Protect tiles.
+ Destroys any enemy special tile.
MAX LV 5: Deals 463 damage per tile destroyed.


Insult to Injury - NO CHANGE

Armed and Dangerous - Cost: 12 Green AP - OLD
The full fury of Doctor Octopus is unleashed as his metal arms strike, constrict and mangle all his opponents at once. Deals 82 damage to all enemies, then stuns a random enemy for 1 turn, destroys 1 AP of the enemy’s strongest color, and destroys a random enemy Countdown tile.
Upgrades:
+ Deals 164 damage to the enemy team
+ Destroys 3 AP of the enemy’s strongest color
+ Stun a random enemy for 2 turns.
+ Deals 246 damage to all enemies, stuns a random enemy for 3 turns, and destroys 5 enemy AP.
MAX LV 5: Deals 783 damage to all enemies, then stuns a random enemy for 3 turns, destroys 5 AP of the enemy’s strongest color, and destroys a random enemy Countdown tile.

New Max Health: 8,670

Manipulation - Cost: 11 Blue AP - NEW
Dr. Octavius reaches out with his mechanical arms to use controls and devices, smashing enemy plans easily. Swaps 16 pairs of random tiles, destroying any swapped enemy Attack tiles, and dealing 110 damage for each tile destroyed.
Upgrades:
+ Also destroys enemy Strike tiles.
+ Deals 117 damage per tile destroyed.
+ Also destroys enemy Protect tiles.
+ Deals 330 damage per tile destroyed.
MAX LV 5: Deals 1044 damage per tile destroyed.

Insult to Injury - NO CHANGE

Armed and Dangerous - 12 Green AP - NEW
Doctor Octopus’ metal arms strike, constrict and mangle all his opponents at once. Deals 268 damage to all enemies, then stuns a random enemy for 1 turn, strengthens a random friendly special tile by 16, and steals 1 enemy Green AP.
Upgrades:
+ Strengthens a random friendly special tile by 40.
+ Deals 354 damage to all enemies.
+ Stuns a random enemy for 2 turns. Strengthens a random friendly special tile by 57.
+ Deals 477 damage to all enemies. Steals 2 enemy Green AP.
MAX LV 5: Deals 1517 damage to all enemies, then stuns a random enemy for 2 turns, strengthens a random friendly special tile by 185, and steals 2 enemy Green AP.

She-Hulk (Modern) - Coming 4/17/15
She-Hulk also has a wide variety of powers. Her Blue power was overly complex, and useful only in very specific situations, and the power to give her team a burst of health doesn’t really fit into her comic book persona. We’ve updated both her Green and Blue abilities with the goal of making them simpler and more useful.

Old Max Health: 10,200

Settlement - Cost: 9 Blue AP - OLD
She-Hulk flexes her legal muscle, striking a deal to balance the scales of justice. Replaces up to 2 Protect, Strike or Attack tiles with Strike Tiles distributed between you and the enemy team. The deal is in your favor though, as Friendly Strike Tiles are strength 27 and Enemy Strike Tiles are Strength 16.
Upgrades:
+ Increases Friendly Strike Tiles to strength 38.
+ Replaces up to 3 Tiles (Odd tiles are always Friendly)
+ Increases Friendly Strike Tiles to strength 51.
+ Can also replace Countdown Tiles.
MAX LV 5: Friendly Strike Tiles are strength 164 and Enemy Strike Tiles are Strength 52.

Reprieve - Cost: 12 Green AP - OLD
She-Hulk charges into battle, catching her foes off guard and giving allies a chance to rest. Reduces one of the enemy’s AP levels to 0, then heals all allies for 137 HP.
Upgrades:
+ Also cuts a second AP color by 25 percent.
+ Gives allies a burst of 192 health.
+ Gives allies a burst of 290 health.
+ Also cuts a second AP color by 50 percent.
MAX LV 5: Gives allies a burst of 922 health.

Power of Attorney - NO CHANGE

New Max Health: 10,710

Settlement - Cost: 9 Blue AP - NEW
She-Hulk flexes her legal muscle, striking a deal to balance the scales of justice. Randomly selects up to 2 enemy Protect, Strike, or Attack tiles and redistributes them between both teams. Friendly tiles are improved by 27.
Upgrades:
+ Friendly tiles are improved by 32.
+ Friendly tiles are improved by 38.
+ Selects up to 3 Tiles (Odd tiles are always Friendly)
+ Friendly tiles are improved by 59.
MAX LV 5: Friendly tiles are improved by 191.


Furious Charge - Cost: 6 Green AP - NEW
She-Hulk charges into battle, catching her foes off guard and causing them to stagger backwards. Reduces one of the enemy’s AP levels to 0, and reduces a second AP color by 25 percent.
Upgrades:
+ Reduces a second AP color by 35.
+ Reduces a second AP color by 50.
+ Reduces a second AP color by 75.
+ Reduces a second AP color by 100.


Power of Attorney - NO CHANGE

Character Health Update - Coming 4/17/15
As you may have noticed, many of the characters listed above have received updates to the amount of health they have. They are just the tip of the iceberg! Most characters are going to be receiving a health upgrade. Characters with less health are getting the biggest increase, while characters with a relatively high amount of health aren’t changing at all. Here’s a list of all the characters that are going to be affected.

Lower-health characters trade health for stronger powers, but the health penalty they were paying was too large compared to how much stronger their powers were getting. This update lowers the health penalty they pay.

Beast - Old: 6,800 - New: 8,670
Black Panther - Old: 8,500 - New: 9,690
Black Widow 3* - Old: 5,950 - New: 8,075
Blade - Old: 6,800 - New: 8,670
Bullseye - Old: 2,460 - New: 3,649
Captain America 2* - Old: 4,900 - New: 5,586
Captain America 3* - Old: 8,500 - New: 9,690
Captain Marvel 3* - Old: 8,500 - New: 9,690
Captain Marvel 2* - Old: 4,900 - New: 5,586
Colossus - Old: 10,200 - New: 10,710
Cyclops 3* - Old: 7,650 - New: 9,265
Daredevil - Old: 6,800 - New: 8,670
Deadpool - Old: 6,800 - New: 8,670
Doctor Doom - Old: 8,500 - New: 9,690
Doctor Octopus - Old: 6,800 - New: 8,670
Elektra - Old: 10,960 - New: 13,974
Falcon - Old: 5,950 - New: 8,075
Gamora - Old: 8,500 - New: 9,690
Hawkeye 2* - Old: 3,430 - New: 4,361
Human Torch 2* - Old: 3,430 - New: 4,361
Human Torch 3* - Old: 5,950 - New: 8,075
Invisible Woman - Old: 8,220 - New: 13,015
Iron Man 3* - Old: 8,500 - New: 9,690
Kamala Khan - Old: 6,800 - New: 8,670
Kingpin - Old: 13,700 - New: 15,618
Luke Cage - Old: 8,500 - New: 9,690
Magneto 3* - Old: 6,800 - New: 8,670
Magneto 2* - Old: 3,920 - New: 4,998
Moonstone - Old: 4,900 - New: 5,586
Mystique - Old: 5,950 - New: 8,075
Nick Fury - Old: 9,590 - New: 13,015
Psylocke - Old: 6,800 - New: 8,670
Punisher - Old: 6,800 - New: 8,670
Quicksilver - Old: 6,800 - New: 8,670
Ragnarok - Old: 10,200 - New: 10,710
Rocket & Groot - Old: 10,200 - New: 10,710
Sentry - Old: 10,200 - New: 10,710
She-Hulk - Old: 10,200 - New: 10,710
Spider-man 3* - Old: 6,800 - New: 8,670
Spider-man 2* - Old: 3,920 - New: 4,998
Squirrel Girl - Old: 6,800 - New: 8,670
Star-Lord - Old: 10,960 - New: 13,974
Storm 3* - Old: 5,100 - New: 7,565
Thor 4* - Old: 16,440 - New: 17,262
Wolverine 2* - Old: 3,920 - New: 4,998
Iso-8 Leveling Costs Update - Coming in R75

Okay, now that this is easier to read here's my thoughts.

Invisible Woman
Overall, I like this, makes her a lot more useable and a great defensive character. Thank you for removing the Ending turn off of the Green.

Elektra
Meh, health boost and damage boost. Would have liked to have seen her purple do something if they didn't have any strike tiles the first time you used it. AP steal at the very least, c'mon...

X-Force
Black and Yellow are fine in my opinion, but why did you have to hit the Green so heavily? Even at the 3K mark, it doesn't one shot any 3*'s and this wasn't the part of him that was bonkers. You guys cut way too much damage off this even if you thought it needed to be lowered. 3k to 1 k is a huge drop in usefulness.

These are the only ones I really feel like commenting on to be honest, as they needed to be reworked as they were 4*'s and not even in a tier level that would have been fair to them. I expect a large outcry from X-Force players, largely in part due to the massive damage decrease that has happened with the Green ability.

Unknown

I was on the fence about quitting, now I am done. Requesting a refund of all purchases made through mpq and wilk be first in pine for the class action law suit. Sucket people into investing time and money then nerf every character they worked or paid to get.

eaise

So work hard to save up HP. Selling characters to make space for new ones so I don't have to buy roster slots. Spend 5000! Freaking! HP! to get the last two XF covers I needed. 2 weeks later, maybe even less time, he gets nerfed. I wasted 5000 HP!

You bait customers in to getting the best characters and then once you think people won't be spending any more on the covers you nerf them to be useless.
This is a terrible business practice! You don't deserve to have people pay for anything you create!

Unknown

Unknown

And in one of the smallest changes to a character ever made Elektra goes from bleh to meh. Double Double Cross STILL doesn't create a strike tile if none exist on the other side, and her black is still too expensive for what it does. It's great that it does 5x at 5 now, but it's cost should be reduced to 5 and damage cut in half to compensate. At the very least reduced to 7.

Ducky

Did I miss it, or did xforce get the shaft in the health department as well?

SnowcaTT

HeWantsRevenge wrote:

Gonna get the popcorn. This is gonna be good.

Joking aside, the season where I had a decent sized roster and was going to start playing with shield hoping, they added timers. This season, I started putting in work to XF and he's been nerfed.

Once again, a day late and a dollar short.

Right there with you team-mate.

Teke184 wrote:

This doesn't even go into the level changes in ISO costs, which damn well BETTER compensate those of us who have been working to put ISO into characters only to have the total cost sliced.

I hate the X-F nerf, but this is the part that concerns me most. Are those that leveled a bunch of 3*'s way up going to get an ISO refund? How does this help any developed roster that leveled evenly (like I did), so basically no characters are low level but also very few are maxed? This sounds terrible.

Of the buffs, I think Cage is going to be a monster. Almost 10K health and a free D tile every turn will be ridiculous.

GrumpySmurf1002

Ares 8AP Green - 1840 damage
XForce 8AP Green - 1982.5 damage (average).

Yikes. Granted Ares doesn't have an 8k move to go with it, but yikes.

JamieMadrox

Merged the two threads, fixed the first post to have the nicer formatting, and deleted the later, nicer formatted post. Continue your angry mob. Pitchforks on the right, torches on the left.

Unknown

Looks like I'm nerfing my wallet and game play. 5000 Hp into xforce in the last two weeks, straight into the toilet. 7500 hp into him all time. Complete waste of everything.

A month ago I was looking forward to getting every character in the game, and had most of them then. Now I'm wishing I never found this game.

orionpeace

I don't think you could have more thoroughly proven that you have no idea how to balance, that you DON'T play the game at a high level, that you don't want any kind of progression in your game beyond 3*, and that the only segment of your players that you care about are new to mid-level players.

I am now fully convinced that spending the time, effort and resources to cover and level a 4* is a complete waste.

Unknown

ARE YOU KIDDING ME? You are nerfing Xforce? After all the negative changes you have made of late, YOU DO THIS? Do you not realize that for some of us that this is THE ONLY LEVELED 4* we have? Not only that, but we are constantly put up against maxed Xforce SHe Thor combos. Going up against the AI with a maxed xforce is the only thing that could bring balance to those matches and now YOU ARE TAKING THIS AWAY TOO! After everything you have already done to, PVP (which has made it exceptionally difficult to get 4* characters now, well done there by the way)? And then, you Buff the character that you have now made more difficult to get? D3, you have literally FLUSHED this game DOWN THE TOILET! Bravo, very well done. Next time, I recommend thinking things through before you make these changes. You might actually stop and consider how they might affect your loyal customers.

puppychow

NorthernPolarity wrote:

So X-Force is neutered, but hey, at least She-Hulk is playable now! That'll make the vets happy right? (just in case its not obvious, SARCASM guys, I'm using SARCASM) (seriously though, new she-hulk looks pretty neat)

Actually, She Hulk has become an upper 3* tier character, imo. 6 green to reduce 2 enemy AP colors? WOW. I'm going to field an AP reducing team of XF (for black), Hood, and She Hulk. Ms. Green is a much better character than Loki b/c of more health, plus red aoe. Good luck firing off abilities against this team!

Noobulator

Has anyone suggested the devs DIAF?

Scoregasms

Whoah... no baby steps here I guess. My brain is gonna need a hot minute to process all of this, lol. So... what jumps out initially is that it seems like bigger health pools means longer matches (let's be honest.. this isn't fun when there's a competitive aspect), true-heal characters seem to have gotten a big boost in playability and now KK shoots up to darn near tops of my list.

At some point in time, ya'll are gonna need to nerf your own AI goons and such, just saying, that nerf bat needs to swing both ways pl0x.