Spoit wrote: Phantron wrote: Bucky76 wrote: Phantron wrote: I'm pretty sure right now shielded guys do not appear on any new matchups, so it's only whoever already had you on a matchup list or a retaliation can hit you after you're shielded. I think so also ... most likely done to limit the gain of points in the system due to hitting shielded people. Thus making it tougher ONCE AGAIN to hit the higher progression rewards! I think what they need to do is make shielded guys never show up after you skipped an opponent. Otherwise people eventually figure out who is shielded and you just keep skip until you find them. If they only show up as the initial opponent, even if you knew who are shielded you still can't make too much of it, and also it'd mean you've an incentive to just play the first guy you see (since hitting a shielded opponent, even for low points, is always a good thing). There's so much lag, you can't really tell until the 3 or 4th time you hit them anyway. And that's with hitting 3 or 4 targets too. Removing even more people from matchmaking just exacerbates the whole 'mmr island' problem that's gotten worse recently
Phantron wrote: Bucky76 wrote: Phantron wrote: I'm pretty sure right now shielded guys do not appear on any new matchups, so it's only whoever already had you on a matchup list or a retaliation can hit you after you're shielded. I think so also ... most likely done to limit the gain of points in the system due to hitting shielded people. Thus making it tougher ONCE AGAIN to hit the higher progression rewards! I think what they need to do is make shielded guys never show up after you skipped an opponent. Otherwise people eventually figure out who is shielded and you just keep skip until you find them. If they only show up as the initial opponent, even if you knew who are shielded you still can't make too much of it, and also it'd mean you've an incentive to just play the first guy you see (since hitting a shielded opponent, even for low points, is always a good thing).
Bucky76 wrote: Phantron wrote: I'm pretty sure right now shielded guys do not appear on any new matchups, so it's only whoever already had you on a matchup list or a retaliation can hit you after you're shielded. I think so also ... most likely done to limit the gain of points in the system due to hitting shielded people. Thus making it tougher ONCE AGAIN to hit the higher progression rewards!
Phantron wrote: I'm pretty sure right now shielded guys do not appear on any new matchups, so it's only whoever already had you on a matchup list or a retaliation can hit you after you're shielded.
Microtom wrote: My shields ends 4 minutes before the end of the event. Not sure if I should do an attack at the end or just reshield for 4 minutes... I'm like 3 or 4th and need yellow cover...
Fangel wrote: Instead of hiding shielded players, change the way your defence team is selected to the last match won and most of these problems go away.
Phantron wrote: Microtom wrote: My shields ends 4 minutes before the end of the event. Not sure if I should do an attack at the end or just reshield for 4 minutes... I'm like 3 or 4th and need yellow cover... Why would you attack unless you're within 20 points of #1? You're almost certainly going to lose points so unless you can reach #1, or that you already fell out of top 5 by then, there's no reason to take that risk.
Microtom wrote: Phantron wrote: Microtom wrote: My shields ends 4 minutes before the end of the event. Not sure if I should do an attack at the end or just reshield for 4 minutes... I'm like 3 or 4th and need yellow cover... Why would you attack unless you're within 20 points of #1? You're almost certainly going to lose points so unless you can reach #1, or that you already fell out of top 5 by then, there's no reason to take that risk. I don't want to attack, but I'll be shieldless for the last 4 minutes. So either I reshield or attack. I'm 3rd with 686 and 5th is 550. I don't know in I can make it without reshielding.
Vierzehn wrote: I don't know what changed with PvP and shields recently but i just went from 610 (which was 8th or so in my bracket) to 377 in less than 10 minutes after my shield dropped (with an hour to go before the end of this.) Super frustrating. I've been playing since a bit after launch and have never seen things go this way.
Bucky76 wrote: Watching my bracket has been... funny yet sad...people trying to make final hour pushes only to get smashed backwards quickly. Making a run in the final hour is not the way anymore for pvp!
Celerity wrote: If you can do two or three attacks right at the end, you should be totally safe. Queue up three people who are easy targets and go to town with boosts. That'll bring you to 750, and I don't think you're going to lose 200 points in 4 minutes.