Anniversary Tokens - Combined Arms and Venom: Heroic

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  • Haha, just give everyone a free token. There, I solved your problem and now it's just all happy fun times! icon_e_smile.gif

    (I mean, people would probably still complain, but the rest of us would be happy. icon_e_smile.gif)
  • pmorcs
    pmorcs Posts: 126 Tile Toppler
    Completely amazed. Do not compare your normal LR experience -- which has a single bracket with every participating MPQ player -- with an eensie, weensie 20-person bracket. This is unprecedented, and I daresay if you're coherent enough to log into the forums you should have a darn tootin' chance of coming in first in most of them.

    icon_eek.gif 20 people!
  • Unknown
    edited October 2014
    I hate to ask this question, and I don't know if it has been previously asked or addresed.

    But how are players supposed to have enough health packs for LR to reach 500 much less LR and the BOP PvP? I think 500 will be attainable especially with loaner GT, I'm just not sure even with only having to worry about the health of two characters as opposed to three, that health pack wise it will be possible, especially if GT is a genuine 4* powerhouse.

    Any plans to reexamine the rewards if the expected number of rewards given out is not attained?
  • IceIX
    IceIX ADMINISTRATORS Posts: 4,328 Site Admin
    I hate to ask this question, and I don't know if it has been previously asked our addresed.

    But how are players supposed to have enough health packs for LR to reach 500 much less LR and the BOP PvP? I think 500 will be attainable especially with loaner GT, I'm just not sure even with only having to worry about the health of two characters as opposed to three, that health pack wise it will be possible, especially if GT is a genuine 4* powerhouse.

    Any plans to reexamine the rewards I'd the expected number of rewards given out is not attained?
    Health packs are a personal thing, hard to say what people will do in any Event regardless of what's going on. So that's pretty rough to answer. Some players will use a breadth of characters, others will Sentry bomb, others will XFood, some will buy them. We see a combination of all of those from players in normal LRs that hit 500+ each time, and that's with 3 characters to use packs on.

    As for re-examining rewards, it's something that we *can* do in this case since the next LR that's ran can swap things out, unlike a single run of Combined Arms.
  • I'm assuming we'll get a breakdown of GT's abilities before the LR so we can gossip... Errrr.... Strategize.
  • I hate to ask this question, and I don't know if it has been previously asked our addresed.

    But how are players supposed to have enough health packs for LR to reach 500 much less LR and the BOP PvP? I think 500 will be attainable especially with loaner GT, I'm just not sure even with only having to worry about the health of two characters as opposed to three, that health pack wise it will be possible, especially if GT is a genuine 4* powerhouse.

    Any plans to reexamine the rewards I'd the expected number of rewards given out is not attained?
    I think the assumption is that there will be plenty of shielding in order to attain said rewards. Going out on a limb, 500 will not be possible without shielding at least once.
    IceIX wrote:
    As for re-examining rewards, it's something that we *can* do in this case since the next LR that's ran can swap things out, unlike a single run of Combined Arms.
    Are you implying that anniversary rewards might be included for the next run of Thor LR? Just want things to be as clear as possible. Less assumptions = different expectations = less room for complaints taking up forum space.
  • IceIX
    IceIX ADMINISTRATORS Posts: 4,328 Site Admin
    gobstopper wrote:
    IceIX wrote:
    As for re-examining rewards, it's something that we *can* do in this case since the next LR that's ran can swap things out, unlike a single run of Combined Arms.
    Are you implying that anniversary rewards might be included for the next run of Thor LR? Just want things to be as clear as possible. Less assumptions = different expectations = less room for complaints taking up forum space.
    Unlikely there. More mean that if only 2 players get the progression for the first LRs, maybe we really *did* place them out of reach. At that point, since LRs are multiple stacks of separate Events, we can flip up settings without having to disrupt an entire Event.
  • gobstopper wrote:
    I hate to ask this question, and I don't know if it has been previously asked our addresed.

    But how are players supposed to have enough health packs for LR to reach 500 much less LR and the BOP PvP? I think 500 will be attainable especially with loaner GT, I'm just not sure even with only having to worry about the health of two characters as opposed to three, that health pack wise it will be possible, especially if GT is a genuine 4* powerhouse.

    Any plans to reexamine the rewards I'd the expected number of rewards given out is not attained?
    I think the assumption is that there will be plenty of shielding in order to attain said rewards. Going out on a limb, 500 will not be possible without shielding at least once.
    IceIX wrote:
    As for re-examining rewards, it's something that we *can* do in this case since the next LR that's ran can swap things out, unlike a single run of Combined Arms.
    Are you implying that anniversary rewards might be included for the next run of Thor LR? Just want things to be as clear as possible. Less assumptions = different expectations = less room for complaints taking up forum space.

    You cannot reach 500 in lr shield hopping. They're called lightning rounds for a reason.
  • Thanos
    Thanos Posts: 722 Critical Contributor
    How long will the Thor LR's run? While on the subject of LR's, any chance the regular LR's could get a face lift? It would be nice to use some different characters for a change.
  • dr tinykittylove
    dr tinykittylove Posts: 1,459 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited October 2014
    It's still having to fight for a chance to get a slim chance at tokens where I would normally already have three, maybe four if I felt like pushing.

    Provided I have time to play LRs.

    Lol, ok. I'll just count iso as the only anniversary specials for the rest of the week.
  • IceIX
    IceIX ADMINISTRATORS Posts: 4,328 Site Admin
    Thanos wrote:
    How long will the Thor LR's run? While on the subject of LR's, any chance the regular LR's could get a face lift? It would be nice to use some different characters for a change.
    The LRs will run for 48 hours from whenever they start.

    As for freshening up, that's a question that we got a few times at NYCC in particular and I know it's gone around the office lately. Not sure how much actual engineering it is to get another set or a refresh going. Worth looking into anyway!
  • Everyone convinced they can't place in lightning rounds:

    Queue up the seed teams at the beginning. Don't attack any of them until there's about 2 minutes left. Pick out the easiest one; you should be able to beat it in 30 seconds (Thor might drag this out, depending on how many hit points she has, but you;ll get a sense for that quickly).

    Once you get the hang of this, you'll get top five in a lightning round at least 25% of the time if normal odds follow. A bunch of people will likely do this, so new brackets will be opening with five seconds left.
  • HailMary
    HailMary Posts: 2,179
    gobstopper wrote:
    "Did you assume that all events during anniversary week would reward anniversary tokens in place of event-specific heroics?" - I believe if you polled the entire playerbase after DP vs MPQ and Tex-Mex, the consensus would be yes.

    So perhaps there was no concrete evidence from a dev hinting as much, but they already admitted that not having special tokens for the special PvP was a mistake. Is it so much of a stretch to assume that they planned to have special tokens for the special LR?
    No, I agree. My original expectation was that the LR format would stay the same, but LR event tokens (not lower-tier vanilla Heroics) would be replaced by Anniversary tokens.

    The new LR format sounds cool, and the Anniversary token distribution very pleasantly exceeded my expectations.
  • Ben Grimm wrote:
    Everyone convinced they can't place in lightning rounds:

    Queue up the seed teams at the beginning. Don't attack any of them until there's about 2 minutes left. Pick out the easiest one; you should be able to beat it in 30 seconds (Thor might drag this out, depending on how many hit points she has, but you;ll get a sense for that quickly).

    Once you get the hang of this, you'll get top five in a lightning round at least 25% of the time if normal odds follow. A bunch of people will likely do this, so new brackets will be opening with five seconds left.

    Depends on sharding, but pretty much, we forumites, the minority of the player base, should be able to dominate the other players. The other players don't even know why there is no LR right now. And unless they've stumbled online about the GT LR, they'll be surprised by it and probably not realize at first the reward structure or brackets were changed. So, as usual we have a gift and an advantage. Wish more people had perspective like you.
  • IceIX, will the double ISO end midway through lighting rounds if they go for 48 hours and it doesn't start until Friday? Or will the double ISO extend to the end of lighting rounds at least?

    Thanks!
  • IceIX
    IceIX ADMINISTRATORS Posts: 4,328 Site Admin
    Xeonic-Ice wrote:
    IceIX, will the double ISO end midway through lighting rounds if they go for 48 hours and it doesn't start until Friday? Or will the double ISO extend to the end of lighting rounds at least?

    Thanks!
    It should extend to the end of that last Event.
  • IceIX wrote:
    Xeonic-Ice wrote:
    IceIX, will the double ISO end midway through lighting rounds if they go for 48 hours and it doesn't start until Friday? Or will the double ISO extend to the end of lighting rounds at least?

    Thanks!
    It should extend to the end of that last Event.

    Last event as in double ISO until every lighting round has ended or just that last active lightning round when the double ISO goes away? Sorry if I'm not fully understanding the meaning of last event.
  • IceIX
    IceIX ADMINISTRATORS Posts: 4,328 Site Admin
    Xeonic-Ice wrote:
    IceIX wrote:
    It should extend to the end of that last Event.

    Last event as in double ISO until every lighting round has ended or just that last active lightning round when the double ISO goes away? Sorry if I'm not fully understanding the meaning of last event.
    When the very last LR ends or the very end of Balance of Power, whichever comes last.
  • Im getting seasick seeing you jump on and off forum tonight, so I'll ask again on case you missed.

    I'm assuming we'll get a breakdown of GT's abilities before the LR so we can gossip... Errrr.... Strategize. Thursdayish?
  • I don't really mind missing the 10 pack. I think I can manage enough for the Dino cover(even though mine is at 0/1/4 already)

    I'd just like to point out that the treshold was chosen very weirdly. In the regular season I overshot by at least 1000 points. I assume you multiple pvp scores by the amount of PvPs to get a sense of a reasonable final progression reward. It's strange seeing you arrive at the conclusion that 1000 per PvP is reasonable.
    Maybe Dino was originally the final reward and you only added extra stuff as a goodie for people who do exceptionally well. It's all fine, but I wanted to point out the discrepancy.