Anniversary Tokens - Combined Arms and Venom: Heroic

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My paranoid worry is that it will only apply to the Thor (Goddess of Thunder) Lightning rounds, and there will be other characters in the lightning rounds. If so, I'm not familiar enough with the lightning round rotation to know how many rounds will actually be with Thor.

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Cryptobrancus wrote:

Does anyone remember this?

No Holds Barred lightning edition

150 HP buy in with 50 man brackets. 3* token + some iso HP as a top 1-2 reward.

This was back in July but I remember it pretty well. My roster was MUCH worse back then but I bought in and fought my way to winning a shiny 3* token (It was a daredevil) I think I did end up buying one or two 2 shields but that was because I was doing well and wanted it to stay that way.

So to recap someone with a mediocre roster went into a 50 man bracket, 12 hour tournament and without too much hardship came out in the top 2 (4%).

So this will be shorter will smaller brackets and 25% chance at one or more Anniversary tokens with no buy in. And if one goes poorly there will be a total of 12 you can try to compete in.

Guys have more faith in your abilities, go out and actually try at this and I bet you will be pleasantly surprised how many tokens you will be able to grab. If you go and actually try in at least two rounds and aren't able to get any tokens I will literally sell my 2* daken. (To be fair I have been thinking about ditching him anyways so this is a terrible bet, but I'll do it, I will!)

We are playing against mostly non-forumites to boot.

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Pylgrim wrote:

Man, I sure hope that you are right, but I cannot help be sceptical. After almost a whole year in which I haven't EVER participated in a LR where I wasn't completely walled out by unbeatable opponents the moment I stepped out of the seeds teams, I find hard to believe that it will suddenly happen just because the brackets are smaller.

If you start at the beginning, the first people queued up are always the first people who beat the first seed teams, who are always the people who can win immediately just off of match damage, which is always 166+s or close to. Wait a few minutes and you'll get more normal teams. Don't even skip them right away; walk away for fifteen minutes, preferably get out of the app to clear out your queue, and then skip them.

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Ben Grimm wrote:

Pylgrim wrote:

Man, I sure hope that you are right, but I cannot help be sceptical. After almost a whole year in which I haven't EVER participated in a LR where I wasn't completely walled out by unbeatable opponents the moment I stepped out of the seeds teams, I find hard to believe that it will suddenly happen just because the brackets are smaller.

If you start at the beginning, the first people queued up are always the first people who beat the first seed teams, who are always the people who can win immediately just off of match damage, which is always 166+s or close to. Wait a few minutes and you'll get more normal teams. Don't even skip them right away; walk away for fifteen minutes, preferably get out of the app to clear out your queue, and then skip them.

Actually, I'd then recommend you tank a lot the first LR; then, start really trying in the next one. Or tank BOP, then, go for it LR.

emaker27

It sounds simple... But couldn't additional anniversary tokens be given out at the end of the Heroic Venom event based on your points?

A lot of people don't like PvP and those tokens would've been PvE rewards.

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Considering I'm 1-15 for 3*+ pulls from Anny tokens I could care less about getting one more. Oh and that 1 3* was so really I'm 0-15.

simonsez

Cryptobrancus wrote:

So to recap someone with a mediocre roster went into a 50 man bracket, 12 hour tournament and without too much hardship came out in the top 2 (4%).

Which confirms my assumption that mediocre rosters fought other people with mediocre (and worse) rosters, whereas everyone with good rosters was probably stuck trying to beat up on each other.

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They should have just given out an Anniversary token or two to the player base in addition to revising an overhyped lightning round.

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We should all get maxed Dino's and 20000 HP too. In addition, our ransom..... Errrr.... Compensation should include one cover for each character, 24,000 DP points, 10 roster slots, and a new car (hybrid BC give a hoot, don't pollute). That'll teach them to be human and make a mistake then try to come up with a compromised solution instead of just saying tough luck. They sure do have some nerve.

P.S. I'd prefer my car be black with XM radio.

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simonsez wrote:

Cryptobrancus wrote:

So to recap someone with a mediocre roster went into a 50 man bracket, 12 hour tournament and without too much hardship came out in the top 2 (4%).

Which confirms my assumption that mediocre rosters fought other people with mediocre (and worse) rosters, whereas everyone with good rosters was probably stuck trying to beat up on each other.

I fail to see what point you are making? Are you saying people with good rosters are going to have trouble making top 5 in their bracket? My point is if you want a token, you will have to fight for it but I am willing to bet it is obtainable for anyone actually willing to put in the fight. And even then there will be some lucky brackets where someone with 75 points walks away in first. I just don't see how the forum is so very doom and gloom about this when they haven't even set foot in the event yet. They just "know" it will be terrible. Set up like nothing we have ever played before but some people are so sure it is designed specifically against them personally.

Lidolas

Raffoon wrote:

Hey son, sorry I didn't give you breakfast. To make up for it, you can have lunch though.

But Dad, wasn't I getting lunch before? Based on the communication you've had with me in the past and your pattern of feeding me all week long, it seemed pretty given that I'd be getting lunch.

Nononono! You weren't getting lunch before! Surprise! Now you get lunch!

I always expected heroics for LRs. I thought that many Anniversary tokens would be crazy, but even if what you think was true the analogy seems flawed. It's more like "Sorry, son, I screwed up and couldn't get you a bike for Christmas, but you are still getting the XBox and Playstation"

These are gifts and some rather cool ones at that.

Yes, D3 screwed up. But they didn't do anything evil or immoral. People make mistakes. I understand the need to complain and vent, but let's stop assuming the worst and try to give others a break.

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stephen43084 wrote:

We should all get maxed Dino's and 20000 HP too. In addition, our ransom..... Errrr.... Compensation should include one cover for each character, 24,000 DP points, 10 roster slots, and a new car (hybrid BC give a hoot, don't pollute). That'll teach them to be human and make a mistake then try to come up with a compromised solution instead of just saying tough luck. They sure do have some nerve.

P.S. I'd prefer my car be black with XM radio.

I don't think asking that asking them to provide an Anniversary token (or two ) to the player base is asking for much. They made an error; it'd be a gesture of good will and would probably go a long way to increasing morale.

Spoit

locked wrote:

Pardon me, my estimate of 16-17k ISO for hardcores is a bit off since I included sold covers in last week's profit, and covers don't sell for double ISO during this anniversary. Still, getting at least 9-10k in a single round (all the seeds + sold covers) makes my mouth water.

Seriously, the 1k ISO is a way bigger deal than the tokens

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MikeHock wrote:

stephen43084 wrote:

We should all get maxed Dino's and 20000 HP too. In addition, our ransom..... Errrr.... Compensation should include one cover for each character, 24,000 DP points, 10 roster slots, and a new car (hybrid BC give a hoot, don't pollute). That'll teach them to be human and make a mistake then try to come up with a compromised solution instead of just saying tough luck. They sure do have some nerve.

P.S. I'd prefer my car be black with XM radio.

I don't think asking that asking them to provide an Anniversary token (or two ) to the player base is asking for much. They made an error; it'd be a gesture of good will and would probably go a long way to increasing morale.

Adding more tokens to the LRs is also a gesture of good will, to show our appreciation for this gesture half the forum started complaining that their gesture of good will is complete garbage. If that is going to be the majority response then we don't deserve better.

simonsez

Cryptobrancus wrote:

I fail to see what point you are making?

Ok, let me try again: I asked if brackets would be random. The answer was crickets. If they're not random, and everyone with a good roster ends up with 19 other people with a good roster, then finishing top 5 will be much harder than we're being led to believe. Am I complaining about that? No, I just want expectations to be honest and realistic.

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MikeHock wrote:

stephen43084 wrote:

We should all get maxed Dino's and 20000 HP too. In addition, our ransom..... Errrr.... Compensation should include one cover for each character, 24,000 DP points, 10 roster slots, and a new car (hybrid BC give a hoot, don't pollute). That'll teach them to be human and make a mistake then try to come up with a compromised solution instead of just saying tough luck. They sure do have some nerve.

P.S. I'd prefer my car be black with XM radio.

I don't think asking that asking them to provide an Anniversary token (or two ) to the player base is asking for much. They made an error; it'd be a gesture of good will and would probably go a long way to increasing morale.

In the past, MPQ has provided compensation once. One time. When they had all those server issues, we got HP that time. However, lately, MPQ has made strident improvements the past couple of months from communication to gameplay to having a week of anniversary events. So this time, instead of doing nothing which is typically what has been their SOP in the past, they provided a compromised solution (it's not the best, but it's also not the worst). But this does not count as a gesture of good will? This does not count as an improvement?

Also, basically what you are saying is if they had not given out the free anniversary token at the beginning, but given out now after the mistake, you would have been happy? You do realize that is what you are arguing.

Conversely, people complained MPQ was not communicating or acknowledging the problem. They communicate, acknowledge, and provide a compromised solution. So people find something else to complain about. I saw lots of people asking for anniversary tokens, I did not see any one demanding their wrong tokens be taken back. In my opinion, this is the area that needs improvement.

Speaking for no one besides myself, I'll now tell you how I see things. I think there are certain people on the forum that all they seem to do is complain. I don't mean people who occassionaly rant to vent. I mean the ones who just come to the forum to spread toxicity. I for one am sick of it.

I play games to have fun. I talk to people about games because it's interesting. I used to love coming to this forum, OUR forum. It's the first and only one I've ever been to. Now, often I dread what I'll have to look through before I find things worth reading. I really wish they would set up a section in the forum just for complaints. This way I would not have to interact with those people who have nothing better to do than spread misery.

The bottom line is this week has been great. And the very ones who are complaining every inch along the way are the same ones who will be clamoring next year for a repeat of this week sans one minor technical error. Because that is exactly what it is, minor. Also, in my opinion, one that should work out in our favor.

I've had the time of my life this week with the exception of when I've come on here and was dumb enough to waste my time with the nay-sayers who were too busy looking at a few trees instead of enjoying the forest. But that's my fault. I should know better than to get on the forum and expect to have fun on a site dedicated to a game.

Edit - changed about to to

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stephen43084 wrote:

MikeHock wrote:

stephen43084 wrote:

We should all get maxed Dino's and 20000 HP too. In addition, our ransom..... Errrr.... Compensation should include one cover for each character, 24,000 DP points, 10 roster slots, and a new car (hybrid BC give a hoot, don't pollute). That'll teach them to be human and make a mistake then try to come up with a compromised solution instead of just saying tough luck. They sure do have some nerve.

P.S. I'd prefer my car be black with XM radio.

I don't think asking that asking them to provide an Anniversary token (or two ) to the player base is asking for much. They made an error; it'd be a gesture of good will and would probably go a long way to increasing morale.

In the past, MPQ has provided compensation once. One time. When they had all those server issues, we got HP that time. However, lately, MPQ has made strident improvements the past couple of months from communication to gameplay to having a week of anniversary events. So this time, instead of doing nothing which is typically what has been their SOP in the past, they provided a compromised solution (it's not the best, but it's also not the worst). But this does not count as a gesture of good will? This does not count as an improvement?

Also, basically what you are saying is if they had not given out the free anniversary token at the beginning, but given out now after the mistake, you would have been happy? You do realize that is what you are arguing.

Conversely, people complained MPQ was not communicating or acknowledging the problem. They communicate, acknowledge, and provide a compromised solution. So people find something else to complain about. I saw lots of people asking for anniversary tokens, I did not see any one demanding their wrong tokens be taken back. In my opinion, this is the area that needs improvement.

Speaking for no one besides myself, I'll now tell you how I see things. I think there are certain people on the forum that all they seem to do is complain. I don't mean people who occassionaly rant to vent. I mean the ones who just come to the forum to spread toxicity. I for one am sick of it.

I play games to have fun. I talk about people about games because it's interesting. I used to love coming to this forum, OUR forum. It's the first and only one I've ever been to. Now, often I dread what I'll have to look through before I find things worth reading. I really wish they would set up a section in the forum just for complaints. This way I would not have to interact with those people who have nothing better to do than spread misery.

The bottom line is this week has been great. And the very ones who are complaining every inch along the way are the same ones who will be clamoring next year for a repeat of this week sans one minor technical error. Because that is exactly what it is, minor. Also, in my opinion, one that should work out in our favor.

I've had the time of my life this week with the exception of when I've come on here and was dumb enough to waste my time with the nay-sayers who were too busy looking at a few trees instead of enjoying the forest. But that's my fault. I should know better than to get on the forum and expect to have fun on a site dedicated to a game.

I hardly see D3 trying to correct an error as a gesture of good will. Just because they have a track record of not addressing previous errors and problems, doesn't make them super special for communicating this time and tweaking a future event to make up for the error. It would obviusly be better if they could prevent these errors, which occur far too often.

I'm sure there are many people out there who are enjoying the increased ISO and new character(s) during Anniv. week. I had some fun during the Deadpool PvE (even though I played for hours and still couldn't win a single Dino cover), but apart from the increased ISO, it's still the same game to me. Personal experiences aside, I didn't think my suggestion was asking for much, a single Anniv. token.

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smile mode on (but very serious) :

They even APOLOGIZED lately.

smile mode off (still serious)

There are many things I want to say, but I'll say it shortly :

1) In real life, do you become successful just because you claim it (and think success is owed to you) ?
2) Did you happen to go to school to get skills, to learn, to be trained ? Is that an abnormal process to learn how to play a game, get skills and get trained (to succeed)
2) In real life, when you want something bigger, nicer, more efficient than what you have (let's say a car, a phone...) do you happen to pay for a better version ?

Guys, it takes a lot of time, a lot of dedication, a lot of learning, a lot of patience, (a lot of money) to rank high in this game.

You want to rank high, I have an advice for you :

WORK FOR IT

At last, but not least (that one will be hilarious, be prepared) :

THANK YOU D3P FOR LISTENING TO US, SHOW US GOOD WILL, PERFECTION IS NOT IN THIS WORLD, BUT YOU ARE WORKING HARD FOR IT.

Now, I can come back and enjoy my Anniversary week.

Thank you for your time.

Realstuff_NameChange

Ben Grimm wrote:

_RiO_ wrote:

Ben Grimm wrote:

_RiO_ wrote:

Wonderful! Except for, you know; that one tiny problem where lightning rounds are killboxes where your game's broken MMR pits 2* and 2* -> 3* transitioning players against wall upon wall of fully leveled 3* veteran teams that are completely out of their power league.

Do you start LRs at the beginning? If you start them at the beginning, you can usually get to at least 200 points (and sometimes well over 300) just off of seed teams. You won't have to fight a single actual human being. It's probably my single favorite part of MPQ.

First 5 minutes of Lightning rounds; 6 seed teams, then walls of 166. That's what I get consistently. Lightning rounds SUCK.

I've never had less than 9 seed teams. Are you logging on before they start or right after?

I often get only the initial 3 nodes as seed teams, and a lot of the time, depending on when I catch the rounds, I get no seed teams at all.

500 in a lightning round is not achievable for the vast majority of the player base. I barely ever even hit the 2nd standard token at 250, although I can manage 300 in a normal (longer) PVP event really easily, and I rarely ever get a placement prize other than some ISO unless the lightning happens to be at some time most people aren't playing.

I'll have to be really lucky to manage to make up the 3 anniversary tokens I should have gotten from the PVE and PVP if they are placed only at 500 point progressions and as placement rewards.

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If you can break 250 in a normal lighting round I am fairly confident you will be able to place top 5/20. Good luck!