Anniversary Tokens - Combined Arms and Venom: Heroic

IceIX

We’re aware of an issue with the Anniversary versions of Combined Arms and Heroic: Venom where the wrong versions of tokens were being given out for progression rewards. We don’t want to change rewards for these Events since some users have already gained these rewards and it would be unfair to only allow those who hadn’t yet gained them to get the Anniversary tokens.

So, what we’ve decided to do is make the rewards for the upcoming Thor (Goddess of Thunder) Lightning Rounds contain Anniversary Pack tokens for both progression and placement rewards. This will allow players to get more Anniversary tokens with progression rewards and as a way to get many more by fighting and placing well in each of the available Lightning Rounds.

Edit:
S.H.I.E.L.D. Captain's Log, Supplemental
These Lightning Rounds replace the ones normally available this week. They should be going up either the 16th or 17th depending on some last minute shifts.

Reward structure for the LRs: As always, pre-release means that you should have grains of salt on standby as contents may shift during flight.

Progression

25 - 280 Iso-8 50 - Standard Token 100 - 500 Iso-8 200 - Standard Token 300 - 1000 Iso-8 500 - Anniversary Token

Placement

1 - Anniversary Token x3, 2000 Iso-8, 25 Hero Points 2 - Anniversary Token x2, 2000 Iso-8 3 - Anniversary Token, 2000 Iso-8 4-5 - Anniversary Token, 1000 Iso-8 6-10 - Standard Token x3, 500 Iso-8 11-15 - Standard Token, 200 Iso-8 16-20 - 200 Iso-8

Kiamodo

Sounds like a good solution. So no regular LRs this week? We are waiting till the 17th?

Nighthawk81

Speaking of Lightning Rounds... Where are they?

Unknown

Sweet! And by upcoming, you mean.... when exactly?

Unknown

Sounds good. Thanks for letting us know.

fight4thedream

Hat man!!!

Let's get back to partying people!♪(((*^-^)八(^∇^*)))♪ ﾀﾞﾝｽ

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Dartmaster01

It would be nice to get a word on LR so I know if I can take a nap

Nap it is, thanks

Unknown

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IceIX wrote:

We’re aware of an issue with the Anniversary versions of Combined Arms and Heroic: Venom where the wrong versions of tokens were being given out for progression rewards.

Means devs aware that they're lazy? no excuse, this is huge mistake, there's always testing layer before publishing live.

IceIX wrote:

So, what we’ve decided to do is make the rewards for the upcoming Thor (Goddess of Thunder) Lightning Rounds contain Anniversary Pack tokens for both progression and placement rewards. This will allow players to get more Anniversary tokens with progression rewards and as a way to get many more by fighting and placing well in each of the available Lightning Rounds.

I'm waiting 3 hours for lightning to pop not this "so late" announcement.

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Unknown

tobi69 wrote:

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IceIX wrote:

We’re aware of an issue with the Anniversary versions of Combined Arms and Heroic: Venom where the wrong versions of tokens were being given out for progression rewards.

Means devs aware that they're lazy? no excuse, this is huge mistake, there's always testing layer before publishing live.

IceIX wrote:

So, what we’ve decided to do is make the rewards for the upcoming Thor (Goddess of Thunder) Lightning Rounds contain Anniversary Pack tokens for both progression and placement rewards. This will allow players to get more Anniversary tokens with progression rewards and as a way to get many more by fighting and placing well in each of the available Lightning Rounds.

I'm waiting 3 hours for lightning to pop not this "so late" announcement.

</booooo>

They realize a mistake has been made and are taking steps to correct it. Now is the time to be gracious.

Thanks Ice for working to make this anniversary the best it can be. I know some forumites can be difficult (myself definitely included). Please pass on my thanks to the others.

_RiO_

IceIX wrote:

We’re aware of an issue with the Anniversary versions of Combined Arms and Heroic: Venom where the wrong versions of tokens were being given out for progression rewards. We don’t want to change rewards for these Events since some users have already gained these rewards and it would be unfair to only allow those who hadn’t yet gained them to get the Anniversary tokens.

So, what we’ve decided to do is make the rewards for the upcoming Thor (Goddess of Thunder) Lightning Rounds contain Anniversary Pack tokens for both progression and placement rewards. This will allow players to get more Anniversary tokens with progression rewards and as a way to get many more by fighting and placing well in each of the available Lightning Rounds.

Wonderful! Except for, you know; that one tiny problem where lightning rounds are killboxes where your game's broken MMR pits 2* and 2* -> 3* transitioning players against wall upon wall of fully leveled 3* veteran teams that are completely out of their power league. The same lower tier players for which events like Combined Arms; the event that was screwed up, are a good fit.

So exactly what kind of consolation is switching the tokens into the lightning rounds to those players, hmm?
Oh right! None whatsoever!


Here's a suggestion to do the polite thing: take the loss on a few additional cover packs sold and offer everyone a few free anniversary tokens as a consolation for screwing up these events.

Paintsville wrote:

They realize a mistake has been made and are taking steps to correct it. Now is the time to be gracious.

Exactly! Now is the time for Demiurge to be a bit more gracious and not just shoehorn Combined Arms' anniversary tokens into lightning rounds the same intended audience has no chance of competing in does. Because calling that a fix is not something those players have to be grateful for.

Unknown

_RiO_ wrote:

Wonderful! Except for, you know; that one tiny problem where lightning rounds are killboxes where your game's broken MMR pits 2* and 2* -> 3* transitioning players against wall upon wall of fully leveled 3* veteran teams that are completely out of their power league.

Do you start LRs at the beginning? If you start them at the beginning, you can usually get to at least 200 points (and sometimes well over 300) just off of seed teams. You won't have to fight a single actual human being. It's probably my single favorite part of MPQ.

_RiO_

Ben Grimm wrote:

_RiO_ wrote:

Wonderful! Except for, you know; that one tiny problem where lightning rounds are killboxes where your game's broken MMR pits 2* and 2* -> 3* transitioning players against wall upon wall of fully leveled 3* veteran teams that are completely out of their power league.

Do you start LRs at the beginning? If you start them at the beginning, you can usually get to at least 200 points (and sometimes well over 300) just off of seed teams. You won't have to fight a single actual human being. It's probably my single favorite part of MPQ.

First 5 minutes of Lightning rounds; 6 seed teams, then walls of 166. That's what I get consistently. Lightning rounds SUCK.

mohio

_RiO_ wrote:

snip complaining/whining

You've been around long enough to know that the 50 point progression token is as free as things get in this game. On top of that, you can usually hit seed teams up to about 200 points and sometimes higher if you're especially fast. That leaves you to beat 2 or maybe 3 "real" fights to get to the 2nd token. You then get to do this again 2 hours later cause they run them over and over. I'd venture to guess that this will end up being a wash for most people (transitioning players aren't usually hitting 900 so they just have to get to 50 in 2 LRs to get that many tokens) and way better for those dedicated enough to hit as many LRs as they can right when they start.

Edit: and maybe 2 more LRs for the 2 tokens that *might* have been in the venom pve progression rewards.

Edit2: imagine how many tokens we could be rolling in if we had picked something with a million subs like ISO-8 brotherhood? Not to mention all the ISO to be had in the nodes and sub placement rewards. :drool:

Kiamodo

That's still a ton of ISO with low risk and little work.

Unknown

_RiO_ wrote:

Ben Grimm wrote:

_RiO_ wrote:

Wonderful! Except for, you know; that one tiny problem where lightning rounds are killboxes where your game's broken MMR pits 2* and 2* -> 3* transitioning players against wall upon wall of fully leveled 3* veteran teams that are completely out of their power league.

Do you start LRs at the beginning? If you start them at the beginning, you can usually get to at least 200 points (and sometimes well over 300) just off of seed teams. You won't have to fight a single actual human being. It's probably my single favorite part of MPQ.

First 5 minutes of Lightning rounds; 6 seed teams, then walls of 166. That's what I get consistently. Lightning rounds SUCK.

I've never had less than 9 seed teams. Are you logging on before they start or right after?

orionpeace

Except, I think they will have Standard Tokens where the Standard Tokens always are and only the Heroic/Themed Tokens will be replaced with Anniversary Tokens.

And you have to have fully covered, high leveled versions of the powered up Heroes to even have a shot to get those.

CORRECTION: I missed on my first pass where he included progression rewards. So, my cynicism was poorly placed.

CrookedKnight

IceIX said placement and progression rewards. Normally the only progression tokens in a lightning round are standards. Thus, they'd be replacing at least one standard per round, if not both, with anniversary tokens.

mohio

orionpeace wrote:

Except, I think they will have Standard Tokens where the Standard Tokens always are and only the Heroic/Themed Tokens will be replaced with Anniversary Tokens.

And you have to have fully covered, high leveled versions of the powered up Heroes to even have a shot to get those.

It says specifically progression and placement. Since there are no heroic/event tokens in LR progression rewards I am forced to assume they will replace the standard tokens unless they are just throwing out the old reward structure completely and making a new one.

Edit: it does bring up a problem that everyone has noticed I'm sure. You will see anniversary x1 for 9-25, then anniversary x2 for 26-50. I'd expect them to do something about this.

IceIX

These next Lightning Rounds will be starting late due to The Goddess showing up for a special reveal before Season VII starts in earnest. They're also planned to be 20(!) player brackets as well, so don't plan on bashing yourself against huge leaderboards in each of the rounds that are available.

Unknown

IceIX wrote:

These next Lightning Rounds will be starting late due to The Goddess showing up for a special reveal before Season VII starts in earnest. They're also planned to be 20(!) player brackets as well, so don't plan on bashing yourself against huge leaderboards in each of the rounds that are available.

HOLY ****!

20 person brackets!!! That is awesome........wait.......

How many placement rewards?

CrookedKnight

20?! Holy ****, the sharding luck involved...