Feedback Wanted: Character Balance

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  • bluewolf
    bluewolf Posts: 5,948 Chairperson of the Boards
    Some characters could use a dusting of nerf powder

    BRB and Bishop was correct.

    Good luck.

  • HoundofShadow
    HoundofShadow Posts: 8,004 Chairperson of the Boards
    Some characters could use super soldier serum

    Looking forward to seeing this team in Shield Simulator in the next season.

  • BriMan2222
    BriMan2222 Posts: 1,425 Chairperson of the Boards
    Some characters could use a dusting of nerf powder

    What's the synergy between BRB and bishop? Just bishop creating a lot of blue for BRB to spam his cheap blue? Isn't that just Bishop being bishop with any cheap blue user? It also seems like BRB would be slightly counterproductive to bishop with his Shield tiles preventing Bishops passive to proc off of just 5 star match damage and allowing a 5 star to have enough time to gain AP to actually fire a power for once and take him down.

  • bluewolf
    bluewolf Posts: 5,948 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited February 2020
    Some characters could use a dusting of nerf powder

    People forget just how much Bishop does.

    Spam BRB's blue yes. Now every hit you take, more protects are generated.

    Remember Bishop's yellow power? Yes, his other passive.....spec it to 5 and every time there are 2 Protects on the board at the start of the turn, Bishop removes 2 and gains 3 blue AP.

    I assume you can see where this is going. All those protects being matched are giving more blue thanks to BRB's passive.

    People run this team over their 550s.

  • MoosePrime
    MoosePrime Posts: 969 Critical Contributor
    Some characters could use a dusting of nerf powder

    BRB's blue gives you shields every time you take damage, Bishop turns those shields into blue to make BRB's blue effectively free.

  • Bad
    Bad Posts: 3,146 Chairperson of the Boards
    Balance is fine right now

    The real problem being BRB so cheap power for all the damage he does and all the tiles he can spam, considering he can gain blue ap extra by himself. Simply OP and yes, its unbalanced.

  • 658_2
    658_2 Posts: 235 Tile Toppler

    Sinister/Bishop will be yet another auto skip. I won’t be surprised if it’s the worst one yet, although hard to top BRB/Bishop.

  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,522 Chairperson of the Boards
    Some characters could use super soldier serum

    I can’t decide if the cascade potential you get from WCap is going to be better or worse that Sinister/Bishop, but they’ll be bad I think.

  • bluewolf
    bluewolf Posts: 5,948 Chairperson of the Boards
    Some characters could use a dusting of nerf powder

    I mean they wouldn't be great, but at least Sinister burns black AP to prevent dmg vs blue. I'm a bit curious actually how they would work together or not, and which one would take precedence in terms of intercepting dmg.

  • SnowcaTT
    SnowcaTT Posts: 3,487 Chairperson of the Boards
    Some characters could use super soldier serum

    Yeah, this. BRB/PX or BRB/Bishop is -everywhere- now. It's practically impossible to stop AI from getting 6ap on a 5* anyway...having helpers that give the AI extra turns to accomplish this easy feat is just begging for extra long matches.

    BRB, like Kitty, needs this ability to fire every other turn starting on turn two not one. Having a limit on tiles wouldn't hurt feelings either.

  • 658_2
    658_2 Posts: 235 Tile Toppler

    There’s a video floating around Line, it’s bad. Sinister’s black only triggers at 5k or whatever, so Bishop acts as he usually does, but he’s harder to get rid of since you need a nuke and their team to have less than 3 black. You end up either stun locked or facing massive damage traps all over the place, on every color, set off by either team. You’ll never know where you’re at in that match, until you’re dead.

  • bluewolf
    bluewolf Posts: 5,948 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited February 2020
    Some characters could use a dusting of nerf powder

    So I guess we see the common element in two horrible teams.

    Sinister has new character boost going so let's not be too hasty though, wait a few days and see how it works then.

    Nothing wrong.....nope......just keep layering massive passives into the game.

    I hope no one was unclear as to why they have made PVP rewards so good. You need good incentives to wade into the mess they have made.

  • The rockett
    The rockett Posts: 2,016 Chairperson of the Boards
    Some characters could use super soldier serum

    @IceIX any update on this? Been a month.

  • Dhaunas
    Dhaunas Posts: 54 Match Maker
    Some characters could use super soldier serum
    bowla33 said:

    Nerf Bishop, please and thank you


    I agree with this; I'd resisted for a long time, but with more and more characters having ridiculous synergy with him, it's got to be done. At least require his passive AP gain require the damage threshold to be crossed with ability damage, not match damage.

    I still have no issue with Gritty or Worthy. They are both easily countered; Worthy is ONLY a threat when paired with HE... even then he is easily countered (it's just tedious, not difficult).


  • turbomoose
    turbomoose Posts: 817 Critical Contributor
    Some characters could use super soldier serum
    Think it’s clear what the people want 240 votes and almost 80% want to see improvements made to some characters. 

    So whilst most of us find it frustrating to get past gritty teams and worthy HE teams and a few more. If you even things up a bit for some of the oldies and even some newer ones there will be fewer complaints 
  • tiomono
    tiomono Posts: 1,654 Chairperson of the Boards
    Some characters could use a dusting of nerf powder
    Think it’s clear what the people want 240 votes and almost 80% want to see improvements made to some characters. 

    So whilst most of us find it frustrating to get past gritty teams and worthy HE teams and a few more. If you even things up a bit for some of the oldies and even some newer ones there will be fewer complaints 
    It's also clear from many people's comments that many players desires are somewhere in the middle.

    I said nerf powder but want to see 5* match damage leveled out like every other tier. Many other players said buff but also called a handful of characters op that need nerfed.
  • BriMan2222
    BriMan2222 Posts: 1,425 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited February 2020
    Some characters could use a dusting of nerf powder
    Think it’s clear what the people want 240 votes and almost 80% want to see improvements made to some characters. 

    So whilst most of us find it frustrating to get past gritty teams and worthy HE teams and a few more. If you even things up a bit for some of the oldies and even some newer ones there will be fewer complaints 
    A. Many people stated that they chose buff, but would like to see both buffs and nerfs but both wasn't an option.  If both was an option I wouldn't be surprised if that got the most votes.

    B. The forum represent a very small portion of the player base.  You're talking about 240 votes out of tens of thousands of people who actually play the game. 
  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 10,535 Chairperson of the Boards
    Some characters could use super soldier serum
    So what we are saying then is that this was a fundamentally bad idea and we should just disregard the results because yes/no is too narrow a range of options? Lol!
  • JHawkInc
    JHawkInc Posts: 2,605 Chairperson of the Boards
    Some characters could use a dusting of nerf powder
    No, they're saying that knowledge of what most want cannot be gleaned from polling a tiny tiny percentage of those people, especially when the poll answers are not as diverse as people's actual opinions.

    There's still plenty that can be learned from the 22 pages of player feedback. But I assume you know that and you're just being needlessly obtuse.