Captain Hammertime and his broken friends

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  • jredd
    jredd Posts: 1,397 Chairperson of the Boards
    HoundofShadow said:
    Since Hawkcap is going to spam powers, Dr Strange would be a natural choice to deal with them. Strange+GotG should take Cap down once two or three powers are fired. 
    next time i will try that.
  • acescracked
    acescracked Posts: 1,197 Chairperson of the Boards
    jredd said:
    just tried a hawkcap team in shield sim class of 2015. i knew i was going to lose, but i thought i'd try bishop + gritty. to see what would happen.

    my team was stun-locked after 3 turns and downed in 5. yeah. i think the first run of galactus was more fair... 
    Try bishop/5* strange/okoyoe.
  • Marc_Spector
    Marc_Spector Posts: 633 Critical Contributor
    jredd said:
    this is why we need some manner of 'training barracks' where you can pick your opponents, set levels and all that and just try matches + combinations.
    This This This. I've wanted something like this the game's launch and am dumbfounded it doesn't exist yet. It wouldn't be hard to implement; no rewards, minimal new art, and no new A.I. -- just setting an opponent team of three, levels and power levels, and have at thee. If only there were some in-universe excuse to justify this ROOM of DANGER.........
  • Chrynos1989
    Chrynos1989 Posts: 558 Critical Contributor
    edited October 2019
    jredd said:
    acescracked said:
    jredd said:
    just tried a hawkcap team in shield sim class of 2015. i knew i was going to lose, but i thought i'd try bishop + gritty. to see what would happen.

    my team was stun-locked after 3 turns and downed in 5. yeah. i think the first run of galactus was more fair... 
    Try bishop/5* strange/okoyoe.
    i'll try that too.

    this is why we need some manner of 'training barracks' where you can pick your opponents, set levels and all that and just try matches + combinations.
    It actually works, at least for unboosted cap, had one in sim, took double silver ap, double purple blue ap and all ap stock ups with me, was a quick victory, only real damage came from a jj trap tile
    also remember Strange‘s stun can destroy ap, so place on blue and red

  • theomen
    theomen Posts: 99 Match Maker
    Just fought Hawkeye5, Peggy and Hammercap. Absolutely awful. I tried Okoye, Deadpool and Drax but had no chance.
  • Bowgentle
    Bowgentle Posts: 7,926 Chairperson of the Boards
    theomen said:
    Just fought Hawkeye5, Peggy and Hammercap. Absolutely awful. I tried Okoye, Deadpool and Drax but had no chance.
    You need Strange against that team.
  • theomen
    theomen Posts: 99 Match Maker
    Bowgentle said:
    theomen said:
    Just fought Hawkeye5, Peggy and Hammercap. Absolutely awful. I tried Okoye, Deadpool and Drax but had no chance.
    You need Strange against that team.
    Thanks. I'll try. To me it seemed borderline broken but it's early days.
  • Bowgentle
    Bowgentle Posts: 7,926 Chairperson of the Boards
    theomen said:
    Bowgentle said:
    theomen said:
    Just fought Hawkeye5, Peggy and Hammercap. Absolutely awful. I tried Okoye, Deadpool and Drax but had no chance.
    You need Strange against that team.
    Thanks. I'll try. To me it seemed borderline broken but it's early days.
    It's completely broken, but it'll get easier to handle once Cap's new char buff time is over.
  • dkffiv
    dkffiv Posts: 1,039 Chairperson of the Boards
    Bowgentle said:
    theomen said:
    Just fought Hawkeye5, Peggy and Hammercap. Absolutely awful. I tried Okoye, Deadpool and Drax but had no chance.
    You need Strange against that team.
    With 30 blue ap turn 1 Peggy is going to stun 2/3rds of your team.   Then you're going to eat a Peggy red.  If Strange isnt the one who was stunned hes dead within 3 turns.
  • Bowgentle
    Bowgentle Posts: 7,926 Chairperson of the Boards
    dkffiv said:
    Bowgentle said:
    theomen said:
    Just fought Hawkeye5, Peggy and Hammercap. Absolutely awful. I tried Okoye, Deadpool and Drax but had no chance.
    You need Strange against that team.
    With 30 blue ap turn 1 Peggy is going to stun 2/3rds of your team.   Then you're going to eat a Peggy red.  If Strange isnt the one who was stunned hes dead within 3 turns.
    Strange Bishop Okoye?
  • jp1
    jp1 Posts: 1,081 Chairperson of the Boards
    This team is insanely hard to beat. Probably even harder than Bishop teams, although that could be because I lack the appropriate teams to get around it. 

    I’ve had occasional success with Gritty/Bishop as well as Okoye/XFDP/Sabretooth if I bring AP boosts and get a favorable board. Other times the AI makes a stupid choice with the AP pool and I survive long enough to sneak in a win. 

    Certainly understand the frustration though, but I stubbornly refuse to ever advocate for a nerf. I’ll just be hoping I luck into 5 Hawkeye to join the fun.
  • bluewolf
    bluewolf Posts: 6,589 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited October 2019
    I am not going to pretend that any nerf will occur. Not enough staff anymore, not any money in it.

    I would like to know how people feel once Hammercap has been given out in PVE 1-2 more times and suddenly there are a lot more champs walking around.

    Sim will be a choice of skipping Grittyshop or Troll Team Cap.

    Although Okoye/Strange/Bishop does work well against this particular flavor of "make a match and suffer".
  • MegaBee
    MegaBee Posts: 1,294 Chairperson of the Boards
    dkffiv said:
    Bowgentle said:
    theomen said:
    Just fought Hawkeye5, Peggy and Hammercap. Absolutely awful. I tried Okoye, Deadpool and Drax but had no chance.
    You need Strange against that team.
    With 30 blue ap turn 1 Peggy is going to stun 2/3rds of your team.   Then you're going to eat a Peggy red.  If Strange isnt the one who was stunned hes dead within 3 turns.
    Welp, time to become part of the problem!
  • jp1
    jp1 Posts: 1,081 Chairperson of the Boards
    bluewolf said:
    I am not going to pretend that any nerf will occur. Not enough staff anymore, not any money in it.

    I would like to know how people feel once Hammercap has been given out in PVE 1-2 more times and suddenly there are a lot more champs walking around.

    Sim will be a choice of skipping Grittyshop or Troll Team Cap.

    Although Okoye/Strange/Bishop does work well against this particular flavor of "make a match and suffer".
    Oh, I feel it now personally. Not even going to pretend it isn’t annoying. I can’t just subvert everything I believe about nerfs now that one of these super meta teams haven’t shaken out in my favor though.

    I’ll be hoping for a useful and obtainable counter, until then I’ll suffer like the Bishop haters. Mild solidarity achieved.
  • tiomono
    tiomono Posts: 1,654 Chairperson of the Boards
    jp1 said:
    bluewolf said:
    I am not going to pretend that any nerf will occur. Not enough staff anymore, not any money in it.

    I would like to know how people feel once Hammercap has been given out in PVE 1-2 more times and suddenly there are a lot more champs walking around.

    Sim will be a choice of skipping Grittyshop or Troll Team Cap.

    Although Okoye/Strange/Bishop does work well against this particular flavor of "make a match and suffer".
    Oh, I feel it now personally. Not even going to pretend it isn’t annoying. I can’t just subvert everything I believe about nerfs now that one of these super meta teams haven’t shaken out in my favor though.

    I’ll be hoping for a useful and obtainable counter, until then I’ll suffer like the Bishop haters. Mild solidarity achieved.
    Welcome to the counter hoper club.
  • Godzillafan67
    Godzillafan67 Posts: 742 Critical Contributor
    OJSP said:
    Hawkeye5, Peggy and Hammercap. 
    dkffiv said:
    Turn 1 the AI has a minimum 8 red 12 blue AP.  Peggy blue is going off because its the most expensive ability. 
    Cap has 20k+ hp.  Flame does 6k+ counter damage so its probably going to take 3-4 to down him.  Each flame that doesn't kill Cap is giving them another 8 red / 12 blue AP.  
    Bishop is effectively useless because he will be stunned the entire time.  
    The game isn't balanced around having enough AP to use the most expensive abilities turn 1. 
    Not saying it's not tough, but I beat that team with Strange, Peggy, Bishop. Ended with Peggy vs Peggy one-on-one. If our powers cost more due to Peggy, it's only fair to bring our own Peggy too.. :smile:
    Why are you smiling?

    Because we have a Peggy.

    HY-RU-KIN-ULTIMATE-SOLDIER!! *pow*
  • acescracked
    acescracked Posts: 1,197 Chairperson of the Boards
    Tony_Foot said:
    bluewolf said:
    I am not going to pretend that any nerf will occur. Not enough staff anymore, not any money in it.

    I would like to know how people feel once Hammercap has been given out in PVE 1-2 more times and suddenly there are a lot more champs walking around.

    Sim will be a choice of skipping Grittyshop or Troll Team Cap.
    Sadly true, only way for sim is 75 wins then chuck out a troll team. If you want anything actually done about this the top end of the player base has to stop playing pvp. Play to 575 and all just quit and sit there. But greed and all that. 
    You've been hating on PvP long before bishop/worthy. This just a new excuse.

    PvP is the only reason I and many people play MPQ. It's unfortunate you find it difficult.
  • bluewolf
    bluewolf Posts: 6,589 Chairperson of the Boards
    I'm so happy to not have Pick 3 PVP for a couple events, at least.

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