Daiches said: I wish to know how I could show my preference when I only ever got the 3600 option with no preview as a choice.Especially since I only ever bought the offer for the cover offered and would have preferred the cheaper option. The difference between 2500 and 3600 offer was not worth the extra HP.
broll said: scottee said: Why would they lie? If they wanted to just make an expensive package to "make more money", they wouldn't AB test. They'd make only the 3600 package. Forumites are such conspiracy theorists. To give the illusion of caring about what we think is best. It will probably work for some.
scottee said: Why would they lie? If they wanted to just make an expensive package to "make more money", they wouldn't AB test. They'd make only the 3600 package. Forumites are such conspiracy theorists.
Like many, I don't see why people would prefer the 3600 offer to the 2500 one, but IF significantly more people (on a per capita basis) bought the 3600 offer and IF the two groups' preferences were the same (two big ifs), it seems that it DOES indicate a preference for the 3600 price.
Those arguing that it doesn't because they didn't give players a choice seem to be missing the boat and misunderstanding the math (or maybe it's me that's doing so).
Claiming that people bought the 3600 offer only because they had no choice may explain whey they bought the 3600 offer but it does not explain why significantly MORE players with the 3600 offer chose to purchase it than did those in the 2500 group (assuming that this was actually the case).
If it really were the case that more people preferred the 2500 option, why would more of them choose NOT make the purchase when they were only given the 2500 offer?
Let's assume that there are four groups of players who would purchase HfH:
1) those that prefer the 2500 price but would take the 3600 offer if that's the only choice they had 2) those that prefer the 3600 price but would take the 2500 offer if that's the only choice they had 3) those that would only pay the 2500 price, regardless of whether or not they had a choice4) those that would only pay the 3600 price, regardless of whether or not they had a choice
Now assume we split them into two groups, each of which has the same number of players overall and the same number in each of the four groups, and give group A the 3600 offer and group B the 2500 offer.
Players in groups 1 and 2 would buy no matter which group they were in so the number of purchasers in each group would be the same and this would be a wash in terms of A/B testing.
Players in group 3 would only buy if they were in group B, in which case there would more purchasers in group B.
Players in group 4 would only buy if they were in group A, in which case there win ould be more purchasers in group A.
So it seems that the only way that a greater number of people in group A would choose to purchase HfH is if there were more people in group 4 (since 1 and 2 are a wash and 3 would have the opposite effect).
If you disagree, please provide a scenario, with numbers, in which more people prefer the 2500 offer given a choice and the two groups have the same preferences BUT a greater percentage of those in group A actually make the purchase.
And even if the groups are not the same size, as long as the percentage of players with each preference is the same, then it wouldn't change the math (as long as you looked at the percentage that accepted each offer and not the total number).
There are probably other groups of players too (like players who might accept either offer depending on the character) but they wouldn't affect the math either.
If you disagree, please provide a scenario, with numbers, in which more people prefer the 2500 offer given a choice and the two groups have the same preferences BUT a greater percentage of those in group A actually make the purchase.And even if the groups are not the same size, as long as the percentage of players with each preference is the same, then it wouldn't change the math (as long as you looked at the percentage that accepted each offer and not the total number). There are probably other groups of players too (like players who might accept either offer depending on the character) but they wouldn't affect the math either.
Warbringa said: You are assuming that the resources for group A and B are the same.
You are right. I AM assuming that the resources are the same because if the groups were randomly and properly sampled and of sufficient size, they generally would be (the odds of them being skewed enough to substantially affect results, are increasingly small as the sample size increases, to the point of being negligible).
Even if they weren't, however, it would not affect, my main point, which was the counter those who seem to be saying that D3's A/B test (assuming they did one) is invalid simply because they didn't offer everyone a choice, even if it was done properly and proper controls were in place. My point is that, with a properly conducted test, you don't need to offer everyone both choices to determine that one choice was preferred.