Deilinvega wrote: I noticed simple fact. The more fun and more gimmicky characters are, the more useless they seem in PvP speed rush meta, compared to straight feedXcolor-oneshotenemy-rinse&repeat3times characters that every top player use. Somehow puzzles stopped being about fun and puzzles and became about speed and minimal effort. As someone who collected those gimmicky characters, like Quicksilver or IW I feel... Obsolate. I still plan to max Ant-Man (Someday. If I actually manage to regulary reach 1000 points in PvP to get covers) because he seems fun. Maybe I will spend more times on PvE then, since gimmicky and tricky characters ar at ridiculous disatvantage in PvP.
barrok wrote: I will keep saying this, but Fistbuster needs to be nerfed. Not because the combo is ultra broken, but because it is the only viable 1300+ pvp team composition because of the speed.
Deilinvega wrote: gimmicky
Vhailorx wrote: Deilinvega wrote: I noticed simple fact. The more fun and more gimmicky characters are, the more useless they seem in PvP speed rush meta, compared to straight feedXcolor-oneshotenemy-rinse&repeat3times characters that every top player use. Somehow puzzles stopped being about fun and puzzles and became about speed and minimal effort. As someone who collected those gimmicky characters, like Quicksilver or IW I feel... Obsolate. I still plan to max Ant-Man (Someday. If I actually manage to regulary reach 1000 points in PvP to get covers) because he seems fun. Maybe I will spend more times on PvE then, since gimmicky and tricky characters ar at ridiculous disatvantage in PvP. This is very true, and is a big weakness in the design of the game. PvP is clearly the best reward:time spent ratio, but it is a very very stripped down version the game, demanding speed and reliability over almost anything else. Would love to see something like a better-ai-equipped true pve mode where difficulty, rather than competition was the primary check on rewards. But given how much people complain about the gauntlet, I doubt such a mode,would go over well with the player base.
barrok wrote: Deilinvega wrote: I noticed simple fact. The more fun and more gimmicky characters are, the more useless they seem in PvP speed rush meta, compared to straight feedXcolor-oneshotenemy-rinse&repeat3times characters that every top player use. Somehow puzzles stopped being about fun and puzzles and became about speed and minimal effort. As someone who collected those gimmicky characters, like Quicksilver or IW I feel... Obsolate. I still plan to max Ant-Man (Someday. If I actually manage to regulary reach 1000 points in PvP to get covers) because he seems fun. Maybe I will spend more times on PvE then, since gimmicky and tricky characters ar at ridiculous disatvantage in PvP. I will keep saying this, but Fistbuster needs to be nerfed. Not because the combo is ultra broken, but because it is the only viable 1300+ pvp team composition because of the speed. We need other relevant PVP builds (I have used Ant-man and Kingpin and it's a blast, but a little slow) and to do that they need to slow down the fastest builds. So many characters would have a home if Fistbuster didn't exist (or wasn't as fast).
raisinbman wrote: Deilinvega wrote: gimmicky someone introduce the MTG archetypes
barrok wrote: I am not sure what PVP you were looking at (maybe nefarious?) but Fist busters are ALWAYS up there. Around 1k I can refresh over and over and the only ones that have 40+ points seem to be fist busters.
barrok wrote: Also, Unreal, I am not referring to defense. I take down plenty of Fist buster teams, they aren't scary. (sometimes I even beat them with Ant-man/KP *gasp*). I am talking about offense, where they can finish 2 matches in the time it takes another team to finish one. It makes them one of the most viable PVP teams. I bet if you could see d3's stats you would see that above 1k, a majority of players are running fist buster, especially the ones above 1300.
barrok wrote: Agreed with all of your points To bring it back to Ant-Man, hopefully he can find a home somewhere. The only reason I wanted him was to pair him with Carnage and that didn't work out as well as I had hoped. Though, it is still plenty satisfying to smack someone for 10k
Phaserhawk wrote: no more nerfs. As strong as Fistbuster is, by themselves they aren't scary. I mean Thor and X-Force could hands down dominate by themselves, but have you played against a Hulkbuster without any accelerators? He's not that great. I went against a Hulkbuster/Jean/Deadpool not too long ago. I left Hulkbuster for last, he only got his blue off against me, and his red after a cheating AI last ditch effort to win. Without black and attack tiles he's pretty tame
Phaserhawk wrote: no more nerfs.
simonsez wrote: Phaserhawk wrote: no more nerfs. Who are you, and what have you done with Phaserhawk?