Ozark Boatswain wrote: Phantron wrote: Daken 2* currently generates 2 104 strike tiles at level 195. Scale this to level 141 you get 2X75 strike tiles. Daken 3* would have a level cap of 115 because he only has two abilities.
Phantron wrote: Daken 2* currently generates 2 104 strike tiles at level 195. Scale this to level 141 you get 2X75 strike tiles.
Rorex wrote: Phantron wrote: The Punisher and Black Panther are probably the strongest a character can be and have a game to be considered technically balanced. Although The Punisher's abilities are probably too good overall, they're not so powerful that there is literally nothing you can do about it, and if you assume someone's got to be the strongest character in any game, then The Punisher is at least a choice I can tolerate for most powerful. Black Panther is similar in the sense that one of his skill is way overpowered (Rage of the Panther) but his other two skils are medicore enough that you can accept him as a pinnacle of power in a technically balanced game. I think people just doesn't think Captain is overpowered because there are quite a few guys who are above The Punisher level, and if you compare one broken character to another it's hard to say who is more broken than others, and certainly there is at least two guys more broken than Captain (Magneto and Spiderman), and lazy Thor probably too. Its my opinion the MPQ has moved away from nerfing characters and toward making new characters more powerful. I mean look at the recent releases. You got Lazy Thor - OP, Human Torch (arguably all three of his abilities are at least 2nd best of their color), Lazy Cap (with great HP and a great red), etc. I can't even remember the last character released that was much weaker than Punisher, what Psylocke? Still pretty good. Ares epic 2*. I mean really hasn't been a new character as of late that I was like nnaaahhhh I'll pass. Up next Lazy Daken, Falcon and some 4*. Based on the hints we have been given none of them will suck.
Phantron wrote: The Punisher and Black Panther are probably the strongest a character can be and have a game to be considered technically balanced. Although The Punisher's abilities are probably too good overall, they're not so powerful that there is literally nothing you can do about it, and if you assume someone's got to be the strongest character in any game, then The Punisher is at least a choice I can tolerate for most powerful. Black Panther is similar in the sense that one of his skill is way overpowered (Rage of the Panther) but his other two skils are medicore enough that you can accept him as a pinnacle of power in a technically balanced game. I think people just doesn't think Captain is overpowered because there are quite a few guys who are above The Punisher level, and if you compare one broken character to another it's hard to say who is more broken than others, and certainly there is at least two guys more broken than Captain (Magneto and Spiderman), and lazy Thor probably too.
Copps wrote: Rorex you forgot about daredevil.
Phantron wrote: I don't buy this gold character = super powerful, just because Thor and Captain are both far ahead of the power curve. It's fine for characters to be as strong or arguably stronger than Punisher. After all it'd be pretty unexciting for players and pretty bad economically for D3 is The Punisher is all we'll ever get in terms of power. But a character like lazy Thor is an entire tier above The Punisher, and I don't want to see more characters like that. Like I said The Punisher is the strongest characters I'm willing to accept for a technically balanced game (he's strong but it doesn't feel like you absolutely must have him to stand a chance. If you can only have Psylocke instead of Punisher, it's at least workable), and you can have some margin of error there too, but the gold characters are way beyond margin of error in their power compared to The Punisher so far and that's not good.
Rorex wrote: Phantron wrote: I don't buy this gold character = super powerful, just because Thor and Captain are both far ahead of the power curve. It's fine for characters to be as strong or arguably stronger than Punisher. After all it'd be pretty unexciting for players and pretty bad economically for D3 is The Punisher is all we'll ever get in terms of power. But a character like lazy Thor is an entire tier above The Punisher, and I don't want to see more characters like that. Like I said The Punisher is the strongest characters I'm willing to accept for a technically balanced game (he's strong but it doesn't feel like you absolutely must have him to stand a chance. If you can only have Psylocke instead of Punisher, it's at least workable), and you can have some margin of error there too, but the gold characters are way beyond margin of error in their power compared to The Punisher so far and that's not good. The idea that gold characters = super powerful is an assumption so it could be wrong. I 100% agree that LT is way to powerful and that I don't want to see characters go that way. Its really like Ragnarok all over again. But despite what I want it seems that the characters coming out are consitently more powerful then the originals. Even the new Falcon while not a game breaker like LT is pretty nasty. It certianly makes a lot of the older 3* look like a joke. I mean look at IM40...... At some point some more fun balance will need to be done. What I do like about what D3 has been doing (excluding the gold characters) is all the new mechanics being introduced. I mean Psylocke had a new mechanic (with the red strike tiles lower ability cost), DD (with the trap), Human Torch (with the available AP based countdown), and now Falcon with the strike, attack, protect tile passive buff. Each of these adds one more thing you need to be aware of when fighting an opponent. And as they add more like them the game will become much more about skill and less about the LT pay to win style of game play.
Phantron wrote: Nick Fury looks like the right direction. He has impressive stats, but his yellow presumably requires you to have 12y and holding 5 AP of 4 other colors to maximize. Blue is a trap (enough said), and purple is basically a Magnetic Translocation if you stop the CD. He's clearly better than the average 3* but it's not like he just flat out overpowers all opposition without any drawback. Sometimes I think there are two separate teams working on this game. I can't even fathom what went behind lazy Captain's design. It's like someone was trying to make a P2W character but inexplicably thought Sentinel of Liberty is an awesome ability, so he's like almost balanced because he basically only have 2 abilities.
Saint Matthew wrote: Lazy Daken is a a chicken inside a duck inside a turkey? I'm not following the logic here... They are incredibly tasty, expensive and takes forever to roast. Still not following... A bird meat inception of meat within meats...still not following...
joeboosauce wrote: Turducken! After the crazy dish.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turducken I nominate this as his forum name.
Phaserhawk wrote: Why oh why though does no one know that you stop L.Thor with the Hood, pure and simple. He doesn't go off, I'm not kidding, he just doesn't, unless there is a very favorable cascade, the hood shuts him down long enough for you to take him out or go off with your own L.Thor.