Ascended Winners and Losers

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  • MirrorKnight
    MirrorKnight Posts: 97 Match Maker
    edited June 2024

    Which characters get the biggest functional changes when ascending?
    I know about Coulson getting way more CD tiles, but who else gets a shift that isn't just "big numbers go BRRRRRRR"?

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 7,005 Chairperson of the Boards

    @MirrorKnight said:
    Which characters get the biggest functional changes when ascending?
    I know about Coulson getting way more CD tiles, but who else gets a shift that isn't just "big numbers go BRRRRRRR"?

    The list is very, very short. I think it's mostly Coulson.

  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,564 Chairperson of the Boards

    I think 1* Yelena's powers get significantly cheaper, but are functionally the same as she grows up too. but I can't think of any changes as dramatic (in the positive) direction as Coulson or as notable in the other direction as the drop in damage to Penance Stare.

  • Pantera236
    Pantera236 Posts: 603 Critical Contributor

    Iron May boost going up at 4* but down at 5* .

  • bluewolf
    bluewolf Posts: 6,354 Chairperson of the Boards

    Vision gets 99 count CDs when ascended, letting Kang one-shot most people with purple.

    Not sure that’s quite the same but it can make for some fast wins.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 7,005 Chairperson of the Boards

    I was counting all that stuff as "number changes," but I guess they could count as mechanics too. I don't think there's anybody who, like, straight up does something completely different though.

  • MirrorKnight
    MirrorKnight Posts: 97 Match Maker

    @entrailbucket said:
    I was counting all that stuff as "number changes," but I guess they could count as mechanics too. I don't think there's anybody who, like, straight up does something completely different though.

    I think "number changes" is a fine way to describe it. But from what I can see, there doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason as to what numbers can or will change for different power types. But, I would say, making more of a type of tile (SAP, countdown, repeater, or web) or longer stuns are probably the biggest potential shifts that can affect a character's playability. So, any of those you've found would be excellent to hear about :)

  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,564 Chairperson of the Boards

    @bluewolf said:
    Vision gets 99 count CDs when ascended, letting Kang one-shot most people with purple.

    Not sure that’s quite the same but it can make for some fast wins.

    Wow, 99 count CDs? Why not just tie it to a unique tile at that point? Kinda wild.

  • Pantera236
    Pantera236 Posts: 603 Critical Contributor
    edited June 2024

    Talos match damage boost got nerfed. At 4* it caps at 585% but ascended 251%. 251 is not terrible but considering he needs like 15 more ap in a color for that and M'Baku is at 300% with no conditions other than it gets better than that is a little crazy.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 7,005 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Pantera236 said:
    Talos match damage boost got nerfed. At 4* it caps at 585% but ascended 251%. 251 is not terrible but considering he needs like 15 more ap in a color for that and M'Baku is at 300% with no conditions other than it gets better than that is a little crazy.

    True, but Talos has maybe the best stun in the entire game now. If he had the best stun AND a 6x match damage boost that'd probably be too much.

  • Pantera236
    Pantera236 Posts: 603 Critical Contributor

    @entrailbucket said:

    @Pantera236 said:
    Talos match damage boost got nerfed. At 4* it caps at 585% but ascended 251%. 251 is not terrible but considering he needs like 15 more ap in a color for that and M'Baku is at 300% with no conditions other than it gets better than that is a little crazy.

    True, but Talos has maybe the best stun in the entire game now. If he had the best stun AND a 6x match damage boost that'd probably be too much.

    M'Baku reducing damage and constantly healing isn't? Lol On top of having like the 3rd or so highest health pool.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 7,005 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Pantera236 said:

    @entrailbucket said:

    @Pantera236 said:
    Talos match damage boost got nerfed. At 4* it caps at 585% but ascended 251%. 251 is not terrible but considering he needs like 15 more ap in a color for that and M'Baku is at 300% with no conditions other than it gets better than that is a little crazy.

    True, but Talos has maybe the best stun in the entire game now. If he had the best stun AND a 6x match damage boost that'd probably be too much.

    M'Baku reducing damage and constantly healing isn't? Lol On top of having like the 3rd or so highest health pool.

    Ah, but even M'baku dies pretty easily when he's stunned! (Of course, he ALSO has stun immunity for some reason, so, like, you're right).

    I do think they need to be careful with stuns generally.

  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,564 Chairperson of the Boards

    No I got it, I just felt like that was a massive turn count.

  • Jinx
    Jinx Posts: 295 Mover and Shaker

    Never really used 4* Beast before. Seems like he would be great ascended. Who would you use him with? I’m guessing Polaris would be an obvious choice to flood the board with attacks and protects. Close to having Magic descended to 5*. Maybe her as a third and stockpile black? Maybe Nico? Curious what you guys think.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 7,005 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Jinx said:
    Never really used 4* Beast before. Seems like he would be great ascended. Who would you use him with? I’m guessing Polaris would be an obvious choice to flood the board with attacks and protects. Close to having Magic descended to 5*. Maybe her as a third and stockpile black? Maybe Nico? Curious what you guys think.

    He's very, very strong. The match damage boost gets totally out of hand, and it has no cap. Pair him with someone that makes black tiles or black AP.

  • MirrorKnight
    MirrorKnight Posts: 97 Match Maker

    Can anyone share Ascended Jim Hammond (T4rch)?

  • Pantera236
    Pantera236 Posts: 603 Critical Contributor

    72k health at 468



  • MirrorKnight
    MirrorKnight Posts: 97 Match Maker

    Thank you!

  • Rich
    Rich Posts: 9 Just Dropped In

    Has anyone ascended Mockingbird to 5* yet? I'm looking at my 4s who don't seem impossibly far away from ascension and she's a top candidate, but I don't want her to be one of those who is a dud at 5*. The others I'm considering bc I'm fairly close are Lockjaw, 4* Iceman, 4* Peggy, and Clea.

  • WhiteBomber
    WhiteBomber Posts: 751 Critical Contributor

    I believe EntrailBucket has most 4's ascended, you can find him in the private alliance "clochards", always a decent place to check if you're curious.

    His bird is at 490

    • 92k health
    • Red - 2 2 turn countdowns 73k damage, if only 1 62k damage and 16k damage to her
    • Yella - no change
    • Pink - destroy 8 ap generate 7 in your strongest. Passive - as long as you have 5 ap in your strongest deal additional 2600 match damage

    So basically, almost fun but not great? If her abilities were cheaper (especially having 6 ap for her yellow passive) she could be a fun counter character, but she loses out hard for all of her costs.

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