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  • DTrain514
    DTrain514 Posts: 21 Just Dropped In

    @WhiteBomber said:
    Now that supports are allowed to move from character to character without a time penalty, it would be suuuper convenient if each character just saved the support you had on them last, making it so you don't have to keep moving them around. You are basically punished (unintentionally) for using different characters. If 2 characters have the same support, obviously it should warn you only 1 is allowed.

    Apologies if this feedback was already called out, I just didn't recall seeing it.

    Moves low level AI for the 20th time

  • Borstock
    Borstock Posts: 2,746 Chairperson of the Boards

    Doesn't look like these are going away. Ugh. I didn't even play three of them last season.

  • dianetics
    dianetics Posts: 1,656 Chairperson of the Boards

    @dianetics said:

    @entrailbucket said:
    I don't think the infinity stones are available in the lower SCLs, and the placement rewards are a lot worse. I don't think anybody who could qualify for CL10 would purposely drop down to CL2 or something just to get #1, because they'd get a lot less stuff.

    I'm pretty sure the gating is there for two reasons -- to nudge players into going where they should go anyway, if they wrongfully assume that lower CL are easier, and to hide big rosters from new players.

    Not the 5* versions, but I hazily remember 3 star variants on the lower tiers like 9 or maybe even 8?
    People drop down because they don't understand the matchmaking.
    The placement rewards are really bad, but if you can get a 3 star stone it is potentially worth it.
    If this isn't the case then my reasoning is completely, wrong but we can check it in the next day or so.

    Just to confirm.
    Stones are available starting at CL6
    CL6 -> 1 star
    CL7 -> 2 star
    CL8 -> 3 star
    CL9 -> 4 star

    If you are at CL10 you cannot join 6 or 7.
    So you could potentially enter 8 or 9 and try your luck there.

  • vinnygecko
    vinnygecko Posts: 245 Tile Toppler

    I've liked supports in PVP at first, it was something new to figure out and brought some nice surprises along the way.
    Now I'm seeing many of the same defensive supports over and over again, just like I see MThor and Shang 24/7. It's gotten stale and somewhat annoying.

    Also, MThor with Fantasticar feels very broken. I lost after turn 1 with boosted Moon Knight and Crystal

  • revskip
    revskip Posts: 1,022 Chairperson of the Boards

    @vinnygecko said:
    I've liked supports in PVP at first, it was something new to figure out and brought some nice surprises along the way.
    Now I'm seeing many of the same defensive supports over and over again, just like I see MThor and Shang 24/7. It's gotten stale and somewhat annoying.

    Also, MThor with Fantasticar feels very broken. I lost after turn 1 with boosted Moon Knight and Crystal

    Probably could have stopped at mThor. She remains the most broken thing since they neutered Chasm.

    Fantasticar has been a much better PvP support than it was a PvE though. In PvE I'm usually trying to make things as predictable as possible. In PvP that chaos is delightful.

  • Hellblazer666
    Hellblazer666 Posts: 200 Tile Toppler
    edited 29 July 2024, 00:58

    @vinnygecko said:
    I've liked supports in PVP at first, it was something new to figure out and brought some nice surprises along the way.
    Now I'm seeing many of the same defensive supports over and over again, just like I see MThor and Shang 24/7. It's gotten stale and somewhat annoying.

    Also, MThor with Fantasticar feels very broken. I lost after turn 1 with boosted Moon Knight and Crystal

    Probably could have stopped at mThor. She remains the most broken thing since they neutered Chasm.

    Fantasticar has been a much better PvP support than it was a PvE though. In PvE I'm usually trying to make things as predictable as possible. In PvP that chaos is delightful.

    It's MThor's blue that's the problem when that thing goes off she can do 5-6 moves in a row

  • revskip
    revskip Posts: 1,022 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Hellblazer666 said:

    @vinnygecko said:
    I've liked supports in PVP at first, it was something new to figure out and brought some nice surprises along the way.
    Now I'm seeing many of the same defensive supports over and over again, just like I see MThor and Shang 24/7. It's gotten stale and somewhat annoying.

    Also, MThor with Fantasticar feels very broken. I lost after turn 1 with boosted Moon Knight and Crystal

    Probably could have stopped at mThor. She remains the most broken thing since they neutered Chasm.

    Fantasticar has been a much better PvP support than it was a PvE though. In PvE I'm usually trying to make things as predictable as possible. In PvP that chaos is delightful.

    It's MThor's blue that's the problem when that thing goes off she can do 5-6 moves in a row

    Not even the blue, just the passive part of it. There are counters for it at least now (looking at you soon to be ascended Shaw). But virtually free board shake is broken.

  • Seph1roth5
    Seph1roth5 Posts: 434 Mover and Shaker

    I wish Shaw had been released as a 5, he would've been awesome. A mthor counter and tank, both of which are lacking in 5land. Yeah you can ascend him but that takes a big chunk of time.

    He also depowers SAP tiles doesn't he? That would counter a lot of troublesome people as well, like BRB or even mayday.

  • Borstock
    Borstock Posts: 2,746 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited 31 July 2024, 17:36

    Let's not turn this into another nerf character thread.

  • JoeHandle
    JoeHandle Posts: 535 Critical Contributor

    @Seph1roth5 said:
    I wish Shaw had been released as a 5, he would've been awesome. A mthor counter and tank, both of which are lacking in 5land. Yeah you can ascend him but that takes a big chunk of time.

    He also depowers SAP tiles doesn't he? That would counter a lot of troublesome people as well, like BRB or even mayday.

    His %ages shift as a 5* but the functionality remains the same:

  • kuntilanak
    kuntilanak Posts: 91 Match Maker

    With the support enabled in PVP, it really sucks out any remaining 'fun' out if it after the 'metas' stomping everything to the ground. Simply because most of the perks from support rely on RNG, and i can't mention it enough: IT ALWAYS SIDES WITH THEOPPONENT. At least that's my experience so far. So, I'm hoping dev will U-turn to not enable support in PVP...

  • Seph1roth5
    Seph1roth5 Posts: 434 Mover and Shaker

    @JoeHandle said:

    @Seph1roth5 said:
    I wish Shaw had been released as a 5, he would've been awesome. A mthor counter and tank, both of which are lacking in 5land. Yeah you can ascend him but that takes a big chunk of time.

    He also depowers SAP tiles doesn't he? That would counter a lot of troublesome people as well, like BRB or even mayday.

    His %ages shift as a 5* but the functionality remains the same:

    Ya but even with his absorption stuff, he's not going to be in front most of the time as a 4*, which is where you want him.

  • dianetics
    dianetics Posts: 1,656 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Seph1roth5 said:
    Ya but even with his absorption stuff, he's not going to be in front most of the time as a 4*, which is where you want him.

    You'd be surprised. At 370 I got him tanking over Col5 pretty quickly.

  • Daredevil217
    Daredevil217 Posts: 3,999 Chairperson of the Boards

    Wait they removed supports!? RIP Leapfrog!

  • BriMan2222
    BriMan2222 Posts: 1,329 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited 2 August 2024, 11:55

    I'm hearing supports are back on for deadpool pvp, and with aunt may boosted turn zero wins are a thing.

  • LavaManLee
    LavaManLee Posts: 1,461 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Daredevil217 said:
    Wait they removed supports!? RIP Leapfrog!

    Looks like there was a blip with Claws for Concern. It didn't have the "Season" banner even though points count for the season and you could equip supports to your characters, they just didn't do anything.

  • Codex
    Codex Posts: 321 Mover and Shaker

    @Daredevil217 said:
    Wait they removed supports!? RIP Leapfrog!

    To me it looks like events like claws for concern, class of....., evergreen, may have a different code. So someone forgot to implement the new add support part of the code. And rather than telling us about it; lets remain silent and move onto the next pvp.

    That's my guess without having any insight on how any coding works. Atleast now they know about it and will probably fix it for the anniversary season.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 5,992 Chairperson of the Boards

    Changed my mind -- they should give us supports in PvP, but only when Chasm and m'Thor are boosted at the same time. Actually, maybe give us supports, free boosts, free health packs, and double points for that week too.

  • AlexR
    AlexR Posts: 453 Mover and Shaker

    My matches are way quicker and smoother in Claws for Concern without supports on defense enabled! Lady Thor doesn't become totally broken with Omnipotence City! Yes, she's boosted, but I'd much rather deal with her like this than with OC equipped. Matches aren't dragged out to infinity by Eros' arrow! Boosted characters don't gain a truckload of free AI on battlestart to offload their nuke instantly!

    I love this. Now I'm not constantly at a disadvantage! :star: Can we go back to this? This feels nice.

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