Ascended Winners and Losers

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  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,522 Chairperson of the Boards

    Seems some of the ascension exploits have been resolved overnight - 3-4 Doom no longer has non-standard champ rewards and Domino/nightcrawler/XFW are no longer usable in the DDQ 4* mode after ascension.

  • BriMan2222
    BriMan2222 Posts: 1,417 Chairperson of the Boards

    @ThaRoadWarrior said:
    Seems some of the ascension exploits have been resolved overnight - 3-4 Doom no longer has non-standard champ rewards and Domino/nightcrawler/XFW are no longer usable in the DDQ 4* mode after ascension.

    Booooo. That was my team for that node. Made that node a breeze.

  • BobDucca
    BobDucca Posts: 29 Just Dropped In

    Still waiting on Ascension milestones...

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 6,218 Chairperson of the Boards

    @ThaRoadWarrior said:
    Seems some of the ascension exploits have been resolved overnight - 3-4 Doom no longer has non-standard champ rewards and Domino/nightcrawler/XFW are no longer usable in the DDQ 4* mode after ascension.

    Antivenom is still usable! I'm not surprised they forgot to update him, they seem to continually forget he exists at all.

  • LavaManLee
    LavaManLee Posts: 1,514 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited 19 January 2025, 13:43

    @Borstock said:
    Thank goodness they finally patched these much maligned bugs before all of the things that people actually care about.

    You read my mind. I was going to post something similar but your post was more snarkily eloquent.

  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 10,523 Chairperson of the Boards

    At least they aren't gonna punish us for all the 35HP we got through this "exploit" via a clawback!

  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,522 Chairperson of the Boards

    @entrailbucket said:

    @ThaRoadWarrior said:
    Seems some of the ascension exploits have been resolved overnight - 3-4 Doom no longer has non-standard champ rewards and Domino/nightcrawler/XFW are no longer usable in the DDQ 4* mode after ascension.

    Antivenom is still usable! I'm not surprised they forgot to update him, they seem to continually forget he exists at all.

    I know I do!

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 6,218 Chairperson of the Boards

    @ThaRoadWarrior said:

    @entrailbucket said:

    @ThaRoadWarrior said:
    Seems some of the ascension exploits have been resolved overnight - 3-4 Doom no longer has non-standard champ rewards and Domino/nightcrawler/XFW are no longer usable in the DDQ 4* mode after ascension.

    Antivenom is still usable! I'm not surprised they forgot to update him, they seem to continually forget he exists at all.

    I know I do!

    He is just so unbelievably bad, and he's never in the "least used" rebalance polls.

    Are people actually using him for something? How is that even possible?

  • Borstock
    Borstock Posts: 2,836 Chairperson of the Boards

    @entrailbucket said:

    @ThaRoadWarrior said:

    @entrailbucket said:

    @ThaRoadWarrior said:
    Seems some of the ascension exploits have been resolved overnight - 3-4 Doom no longer has non-standard champ rewards and Domino/nightcrawler/XFW are no longer usable in the DDQ 4* mode after ascension.

    Antivenom is still usable! I'm not surprised they forgot to update him, they seem to continually forget he exists at all.

    I know I do!

    He is just so unbelievably bad, and he's never in the "least used" rebalance polls.

    Are people actually using him for something? How is that even possible?

    Maybe people regularly using him on that one DDQ node is enough usage that he surpasses the least used list.

  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 10,523 Chairperson of the Boards

    I still think Red Guardian is worse. His own powers seem to actively work against him - his red especially which is then compounded by not having him make enemy protect tiles, thus making the bonus part largely useless. Then he stuns himself BUT THE STUN TO THE ENEMY (i.e. the good bit) relies upon having friendly protect tiles, which he also does not make!

  • KGB
    KGB Posts: 3,391 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited 20 January 2025, 14:40

    @DAZ0273 said:
    I still think Red Guardian is worse. His own powers seem to actively work against him - his red especially which is then compounded by not having him make enemy protect tiles, thus making the bonus part largely useless. Then he stuns himself BUT THE STUN TO THE ENEMY (i.e. the good bit) relies upon having friendly protect tiles, which he also does not make!

    Technically he does make friendly protect tiles. But it relies on him having team mates firing powers. In other words in the 1v1 battles his Yellow is a useless passive and since he isn't a great character no one uses him as part of a team where the Yellow would actually do something.

    Also he DOES stun the enemy for 1 turn, the same amount of time he is stunned. But the requirement for more turns is way too high (5 friendly protects) unless you have a BrB type team mate.

    KGB

  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,522 Chairperson of the Boards

    There are a few characters with teammate dependent passives like that that are way worse on solo modes. Firing a team up power triggers them, but if you’re in the DDQ Crash those are closed out too.

  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 10,523 Chairperson of the Boards

    All I know is that he is properly rubbish, like Spider Woman levels of bad. I'm not an Anti-Venom fan either, he is awful.

  • Codex
    Codex Posts: 353 Mover and Shaker

    @rainkingucd said:
    I got to run my boosted 3a5 Goose this week. And let me tell you, now that I played her boosted I can say one thing regarding spending a year with only one 3* targeted

    What you have done differently?

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 6,218 Chairperson of the Boards

    I don't remember what the 3* Goose even does...I do remember that the 5* is a good counter to AoE powers!

  • rainkingucd
    rainkingucd Posts: 1,471 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Codex I don't exactly regret it, since I was a good experiment in seeing how long it takes to get a 3* to 5* naturally, no purchases, no swaps. But I probably would have targeted other more useful 3* to ascend. I could have done the same experiment with 3* Magik, Honey Badger, or Jubilee who are all pretty good when ascended, and came out roughly the same time.

    Or even just getting some people up to 4* level like a 3a4 Iron May.

    @entrailbucket No AoE defense. She goes invisible (instead of the countdown damage reduction), creates protects (instead of attacks), and has the same instakill as 5* but with slightly different conditions. Her base black creates a monster SAP tile for 3AP (a la Sersei)

  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,522 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited 31 January 2025, 13:59

    I’m 20 covers short of ascending my 3* SWitch to 5, and I feel similarly. I started it because there weren’t at the time any good purple generators at the 5* tier, but Purple Man now exists and is a ludicrous purple engine. But I’m going to see it through anyway.

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