Ascended Winners and Losers

JoeHandle

@ThaRoadWarrior said:
Can somebody with a 4* Domino help me run a test to see if she works at all? I have been feeling lately like her black passive doesn’t do anything, so I went into a challenge node using sersi and 2->4 magneto with iron hammer set to 5 to see what happens when you wipe the whole board. As worded when ascended, as long as she is in the fight incoming tiles are 100% more likely to be black. I assume this just means they have a 2:7 chance of being black rather than a 7:7 chance, but here are the results of two iron hammers before and after...

The wording refers to tiles dropped from top of board during your turn ... in the game's spaghetti coding, does that apply to dropping an entirely new board? I dunno. Did you try with MnMags blue set to 3 or 4 covers? See if there is a difference when blowing out a chunk of board, rather than all?

I'll play around with her and Black Bolt, see what happens when he screams.

EDIT to add:

Took Bolt and Domino into the wave node in WtS. Played it twice. Definite bias toward black tiles, esp as the match wore on, I hit 30 AP in black first both times, and, after Bolt destroyed the entire board, AND the board cascaded and settled (the initial refill was VERY black heavy), it was still biased toward black:

RNG being RNG, probably takes a longer match (for some definition of "longer") for the bias to become apparent. And maybe there's something different about Mags blue and Bolt green.

ThaRoadWarrior

Magneto’s blue being a countdown may create a funny ownership scenario, I hadn’t considered it. I took my covered but unleveled Luna and 5* Namor into sim with her to see if that was any different, because I believe that team would play well together with cascade foolishness feeding Namor’s nuke, but I think I need a PVE goon mode to attempt it until I get more levels on the other two characters.

StevO-J

I only recently noticed that 3* Jubilee gets a boost of her %-ages when ascended to 4*, quite similar to Iron May. Would I be correct in assuming that this trend also holds for Jubilee when ascending her to the 5* realm, as in the percentages go down again when going 4 to 5*. Would be pretty early days to have vampire Jubilee already ascended to 5* I guess, but I thought I'd ask just in case someone has the numbers.

WhiteBomber

@StevO-J said:
I only recently noticed that 3* Jubilee gets a boost of her %-ages when ascended to 4*, quite similar to Iron May. Would I be correct in assuming that this trend also holds for Jubilee when ascending her to the 5* realm, as in the percentages go down again when going 4 to 5*. Would be pretty early days to have vampire Jubilee already ascended to 5* I guess, but I thought I'd ask just in case someone has the numbers.

I posted the 5star stats here a few pages back. I forget if they were lower than the 4star version, but generally, if it's percentage based, there is a decent chance it's reduced when ascended to 5.

I DMed you the 5 star stats from previous so I'm not spamming.

Edit: This just happened to be the first response when I opened this thread, should answer your question and support their MO for nerfing the good 4's when they hit 5:
"active damage on her purple drops from 850% to 325%. Her passive teammate damage boost drops from 160% to 50%"

entrailbucket

Namor 4* (lvl270 no boost)

LavaManLee

Thanks for sharing. What does black at 5 look like? Assuming the percentage in the passive doesn't change, or does it?

entrailbucket

@LavaManLee said:
Thanks for sharing. What does black at 5 look like? Assuming the percentage in the passive doesn't change, or does it?

That screenshot has it set to 5 -- I always post them at 5/5/5.

LavaManLee

@entrailbucket said:

@LavaManLee said:
Thanks for sharing. What does black at 5 look like? Assuming the percentage in the passive doesn't change, or does it?

That screenshot has it set to 5 -- I always post them at 5/5/5.

Hmmmm. The screenshot I see says 3/5 in black.

BlackBoltRocks

Look at the white circle…it’s on the fifth circle…

LavaManLee

Ahhhh. Thanks.

Tiger_Wong

Woohoo! With the new cover exchange system, ascending is getting MUCH faster with enough HP. Initially I had myself ascending Killgrave around February-march of next year. Well guess who I just ascended to 5* this weekend?

KGB

@Tiger_Wong - Quick question since you obviously swapped a lot of 4 star covers. Do ascended characters count as 'max champs' for swapping purposes? So if you ascend say America Chavez and draw a cover for her can you swap that cover the same way you can for a 370 America Chavez?

I presume the answer is yes but want to know since it's never been explicitly stated beyond saying only covers for max champs can be swapped.

KGB

bluewolf

@kgb They literally said ascended copies count. I have plenty of characters I do not own max champs of since I’ve ascended them. All are swappable.

entrailbucket

The champion rewards for 3->5 Doom are a little...off.

Pantera236

They've been forgetting to shut off the ascended retro rewards. If you have 4* Namor ascended he's still giving the retro rewards too.

entrailbucket

@Pantera236 said:
They've been forgetting to shut off the ascended retro rewards. If you have 4* Namor ascended he's still giving the retro rewards too.

It's weird in this particular case because, well, I think I'd rather have the LT/CP/HP rewards 5* normally give, over a few specific 4* covers!

Tiger_Wong

@KGB said:
@Tiger_Wong - Quick question since you obviously swapped a lot of 4 star covers. Do ascended characters count as 'max champs' for swapping purposes? So if you ascend say America Chavez and draw a cover for her can you swap that cover the same way you can for a 370 America Chavez?

I presume the answer is yes but want to know since it's never been explicitly stated beyond saying only covers for max champs can be swapped.

KGB

Yes.

The new cover swap is REALLY advancing the levels of my favorites and other characters.

I think I’ll push Rhino or Angela to ascend next.

Scofie

@entrailbucket said:
The champion rewards for 3->5 Doom are a little...off.

3Doom4 ascension rewards were also out at early levels. I wonder if this was what it would look like if each character has a defined reward tree after ascension?

entrailbucket

@Tiger_Wong said:

@KGB said:
@Tiger_Wong - Quick question since you obviously swapped a lot of 4 star covers. Do ascended characters count as 'max champs' for swapping purposes? So if you ascend say America Chavez and draw a cover for her can you swap that cover the same way you can for a 370 America Chavez?

I presume the answer is yes but want to know since it's never been explicitly stated beyond saying only covers for max champs can be swapped.

KGB

Yes.

The new cover swap is REALLY advancing the levels of my favorites and other characters.

I think I’ll push Rhino or Angela to ascend next.

So far I'm really liking it for that last little push that always seems to take forever. I just favorite whoever's closest to ascending now, but building the last dupe always seems to take a month. With this it's really easy to just swap a few and get it done.

MegaBee

I had a couple of 4-star dupes stuck at 12 covers. Now they're ascended and not sitting there bothering me.