Ascended Winners and Losers

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  • tiomono
    tiomono Posts: 1,654 Chairperson of the Boards

    @BlackBoltRocks said:
    4* ascended Miles' Red has been fixed. At lv451, it does 5842/8960/13893 damage at 3/4/5 covers. Not sure if his Purple got a damage buff as well. Wish they had buffed his Yellow; it still creates 3 or 4 Web tiles for 8 AP, whereas MilesCarnage creates 2 or 3 Web tiles for 4 AP. Plus leaving 4* Miles' Yellow at 3 means you miss out on Red and Blue AP generation, while putting it at 5 sacrifices his Red's damage (although if you're using him with Gwenom, you'd prefer Gwenom's Red anyway).

    I love using miles. I do not have him ascended. I leave his red at 3. It has never felt like a strong power to me. So many more good reds out there. My miles is at 340 and does 5339 damage and stuns for one turn. My 320 Sabretooth does 10684 for the same ap. My 283 Elsa bloodstone has a 7 cost red that does 6036 damage and stuns all airborne or invisible targets for 3 turns. That's just 2 quick kinda comparable ones. I'm sure there are other 6 cost powers in the 4* tier that out shine miles.

  • Tiger_Wong
    Tiger_Wong Posts: 1,061 Chairperson of the Boards

    Maybe I’m late but didn’t 1Black Widow5’s yellow used to cost 15 or something? Cuz now it costs 7 AP. I could’ve sworn it was 13 or 15 before.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 5,967 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Tiger_Wong said:
    Maybe I’m late but didn’t 1Black Widow5’s yellow used to cost 15 or something? Cuz now it costs 7 AP. I could’ve sworn it was 13 or 15 before.

    No, I think the 5* version always had reduced cost. Lower versions, it costs more, though.

  • bluewolf
    bluewolf Posts: 5,848 Chairperson of the Boards

    @entrailbucket said:

    @Tiger_Wong said:
    Maybe I’m late but didn’t 1Black Widow5’s yellow used to cost 15 or something? Cuz now it costs 7 AP. I could’ve sworn it was 13 or 15 before.

    No, I think the 5* version always had reduced cost. Lower versions, it costs more, though.

    Any tier above the 1 costs 7 AP. 2* and up.

  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,470 Chairperson of the Boards

    Ascended Kraven will suck the marrow right out of pretty much any sap. Actually a useful passive now. I put him in simulator with Carbage and non ascended Prowler and it was pretty fun. Brock Venom seems like a good buddy for him as well once I ascend him.


  • Jinx
    Jinx Posts: 295 Mover and Shaker

    I’m sure it’s been posted somewhere, but does anyone have Mordo’s ascended numbers and which powers do you run at 5? Think he’ll be good with Wong and maybe Magic’s for a Supernatural crew.

  • MoosePrime
    MoosePrime Posts: 969 Critical Contributor
    edited 10 February 2024, 18:21

    @Jinx said:
    I’m sure it’s been posted somewhere, but does anyone have Mordo’s ascended numbers and which powers do you run at 5? Think he’ll be good with Wong and maybe Magic’s for a Supernatural crew.

    At 455:

    75499 HP
    Match Damage:
    Black 1042 / Blue 926 / Purple 811 / Red 132 / Green 122 / Yellow 112 / Team-up 515 / 4.0x Crit

    Black:
    3: 11065 or 3246 * [number of charged tiles]
    4: 11065 or 5178 * [number of charged tiles]
    5: 11643 or 5983 * [number of charged tiles]

    Blue:
    3: 20940
    4: 24685
    5: 29452

    Purple:
    3: 2180 per AP
    4: 2672 per AP
    5: 3446 per AP

  • Altair22
    Altair22 Posts: 120 Tile Toppler
    edited 24 February 2024, 16:13

    my current fave ascended team , in PVPs, ascended America chavez 463 lvl 5/3/5, Ghost 451 lvl 5/5/3 & Karnak 450 lvl 5/3/5.

    Currently have a total of 71 5 stars ascendeds, 64 4 star ascended . Also maxed out my IM and Storm one star to 5 star ascendeds to 550 lvl.

  • Glockoma
    Glockoma Posts: 555 Critical Contributor

    3Magik5

    Included are “transformed” values only at L450 after 10 Black AP acquired.

    Winner.




  • Jinx
    Jinx Posts: 295 Mover and Shaker

    She’s the first 3* I’m trying to ascend to 5*. Almost there now. The own team damage sucks. Next up is Emma. Like using her with SC so all his powers are maxed out.

  • WhiteBomber
    WhiteBomber Posts: 399 Mover and Shaker

    Low key, 3 star Lo...ki, I'm callin it.

  • WhiteBomber
    WhiteBomber Posts: 399 Mover and Shaker

    That pun was actually unintentional until I noticed it mid-type, so it's funnier.

  • Glockoma
    Glockoma Posts: 555 Critical Contributor
    edited 2 March 2024, 02:28

    @Jinx said:
    She’s the first 3* I’m trying to ascend to 5*. Almost there now. The own team damage sucks. Next up is Emma. Like using her with SC so all his powers are maxed out.

    For sure, I like where your head is at. I’m pretty proud to have her done, and 💯 agree about the team damage.

    It’s made me consider 3/5/5, but feel the 250% increase on all match damage might be to OP to pass up.

    Tough call.

  • Jinx
    Jinx Posts: 295 Mover and Shaker

    @Glockoma said:

    @Jinx said:
    She’s the first 3* I’m trying to ascend to 5*. Almost there now. The own team damage sucks. Next up is Emma. Like using her with SC so all his powers are maxed out.

    For sure, I like where your head is at. I’m pretty proud to have her done, and 💯 agree about the team damage.

    It’s made me consider 3/5/5, but feel the 250% increase on all match damage might be to OP to pass up.

    Tough call.

    Supposed the self damage could be mitigated if you use someone who puts out protect tiles. Also, does Wanda trigger if the damage comes from your own teammate?

  • MoosePrime
    MoosePrime Posts: 969 Critical Contributor

    @Jinx said:

    @Glockoma said:

    @Jinx said:
    She’s the first 3* I’m trying to ascend to 5*. Almost there now. The own team damage sucks. Next up is Emma. Like using her with SC so all his powers are maxed out.

    For sure, I like where your head is at. I’m pretty proud to have her done, and 💯 agree about the team damage.

    It’s made me consider 3/5/5, but feel the 250% increase on all match damage might be to OP to pass up.

    Tough call.

    Supposed the self damage could be mitigated if you use someone who puts out protect tiles. Also, does Wanda trigger if the damage comes from your own teammate?

    Protect tiles don't protect from self damage.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 5,967 Chairperson of the Boards

    @MoosePrime said:

    @Jinx said:

    @Glockoma said:

    @Jinx said:
    She’s the first 3* I’m trying to ascend to 5*. Almost there now. The own team damage sucks. Next up is Emma. Like using her with SC so all his powers are maxed out.

    For sure, I like where your head is at. I’m pretty proud to have her done, and 💯 agree about the team damage.

    It’s made me consider 3/5/5, but feel the 250% increase on all match damage might be to OP to pass up.

    Tough call.

    Supposed the self damage could be mitigated if you use someone who puts out protect tiles. Also, does Wanda trigger if the damage comes from your own teammate?

    Protect tiles don't protect from self damage.

    In this case they should protect against Magik's power -- it works by increasing all match damage (including the enemy's).

    SW should function as normal against this too. I don't think the game can "tell" that Magik is boosting enemy match damage.

    Someone can test it, but I'd find it really hard to believe they went to all that trouble with this.

  • Jinx
    Jinx Posts: 295 Mover and Shaker

    @entrailbucket said:

    @MoosePrime said:

    @Jinx said:

    @Glockoma said:

    @Jinx said:
    She’s the first 3* I’m trying to ascend to 5*. Almost there now. The own team damage sucks. Next up is Emma. Like using her with SC so all his powers are maxed out.

    For sure, I like where your head is at. I’m pretty proud to have her done, and 💯 agree about the team damage.

    It’s made me consider 3/5/5, but feel the 250% increase on all match damage might be to OP to pass up.

    Tough call.

    Supposed the self damage could be mitigated if you use someone who puts out protect tiles. Also, does Wanda trigger if the damage comes from your own teammate?

    Protect tiles don't protect from self damage.

    In this case they should protect against Magik's power -- it works by increasing all match damage (including the enemy's).

    SW should function as normal against this too. I don't think the game can "tell" that Magik is boosting enemy match damage.

    Someone can test it, but I'd find it really hard to believe they went to all that trouble with this.

    The part I was referring to is the 4K damage she causes to her own team at the beginning of each round when she is in limbo. Hadn’t given it too much thought when she was not ascended because it doesn’t add up to much, but if at 5* she is hitting her own team for 4K damage, that’s like having an OR that hits your own team instead of the enemy. Had thought about bringing someone to lay down protects to prevent that damage.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 5,967 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited 2 March 2024, 11:39

    @Jinx said:

    @entrailbucket said:

    @MoosePrime said:

    @Jinx said:

    @Glockoma said:

    @Jinx said:
    She’s the first 3* I’m trying to ascend to 5*. Almost there now. The own team damage sucks. Next up is Emma. Like using her with SC so all his powers are maxed out.

    For sure, I like where your head is at. I’m pretty proud to have her done, and 💯 agree about the team damage.

    It’s made me consider 3/5/5, but feel the 250% increase on all match damage might be to OP to pass up.

    Tough call.

    Supposed the self damage could be mitigated if you use someone who puts out protect tiles. Also, does Wanda trigger if the damage comes from your own teammate?

    Protect tiles don't protect from self damage.

    In this case they should protect against Magik's power -- it works by increasing all match damage (including the enemy's).

    SW should function as normal against this too. I don't think the game can "tell" that Magik is boosting enemy match damage.

    Someone can test it, but I'd find it really hard to believe they went to all that trouble with this.

    The part I was referring to is the 4K damage she causes to her own team at the beginning of each round when she is in limbo. Hadn’t given it too much thought when she was not ascended because it doesn’t add up to much, but if at 5* she is hitting her own team for 4K damage, that’s like having an OR that hits your own team instead of the enemy. Had thought about bringing someone to lay down protects to prevent that damage.

    Oops!

    In my defense, I don't think I'd even notice the 4k damage per turn, but 2.5x enemy match damage would be huge and probably unpleasant.

    Based on other powers like this, there'd be no way to prevent or reduce the 4k. Protect tiles and damage mitigation don't work on that sort of stuff.

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