Ascended Winners and Losers

entrailbucket

I had Dark Beast making like 200k match-3s in this PvP. If you boost going in, it's even crazier. His buff might have been one of the best in the game's history.

Bowgentle

Yeah but only due to ascension, not for his 4* version.
We're retconning that now, that they were already thinking about ascension, 18 months early?

dianetics

His buff didn't touch his match damage boosting though. It changed his special tile mechanics and AP generation.

BriMan2222

Didn't he used to create charged tiles? Which would have been great with his huge match damage.

dianetics

@BriMan2222 said:
Didn't he used to create charged tiles? Which would have been great with his huge match damage.

Yes, in his strongest color blue. And they could be converted from any tile not just blue tiles.

entrailbucket

@dianetics said:
His buff didn't touch his match damage boosting though. It changed his special tile mechanics and AP generation.

His special tile mechanics and AP generation are all designed to feed him more black AP, to boost his match damage.

dianetics

@entrailbucket said:
His special tile mechanics and AP generation are all designed to feed him more black AP, to boost his match damage.

Sort of. They are designed to help feed him more AP but functionally they are useless.
Unless you are pairing him with 4* Carnage you will not see a ton of extra AP gen.
You need specials out in black to get extra black. Or you need protect tiles out and 9 green.
You are better off sticking him with storm and chasing charged tiles.
Right now I’m winning turn 4 or 5 with him.
When he isn’t boosted it is slower but not much slower.
edit* now that I think about it you can pair him with Storm and Gambit which should be an interesting team

entrailbucket

@dianetics said:

@entrailbucket said:
His special tile mechanics and AP generation are all designed to feed him more black AP, to boost his match damage.

Sort of. They are designed to help feed him more AP but functionally they are useless.
Unless you are pairing him with 4* Carnage you will not see a ton of extra AP gen.
You need specials out in black to get extra black. Or you need protect tiles out and 9 green.
You are better off sticking him with storm and chasing charged tiles.
Right now I’m winning turn 4 or 5 with him.
When he isn’t boosted it is slower but not much slower.
edit* now that I think about it you can pair him with Storm and Gambit which should be an interesting team

Every time the enemy matches any friendly special tile, he makes 3 black protect tiles. Then you can match those for +3 black AP. Or, if the enemy matches them, he'll spam even more black protect tiles.

I saw a LOT of extra black AP, just from the enemy accidentally matching Omega Red's CD tiles or protects to kick it off.

dianetics

I don’t know how much you use him. But he is a regular in my rotation. He was my main before I transitioned to 5*
I get it, it could feed him quickly, but again functionally over a lot of matches you will run into issues.
This OR Beast pair is great because they are both boosted and if you can’t grow Beast to 15+ ap you won’t notice it.
I know he is a monster, but trust me his kit is a functional nerf.

If this was just a 1v1 game his kit would be a buff.

entrailbucket

@Bowgentle said:
Yeah but only due to ascension, not for his 4* version.
We're retconning that now, that they were already thinking about ascension, 18 months early?

Oh absolutely not! I never said it was intended to be one of the best buffs in the game's history.

ThaRoadWarrior

At the other end of the spectrum, I just ascended Mr Fantastic, I can drop his stats here if anyone cares.

Imaginaut, at 5 covers, will possibly generate a strike of strength 1113 at level 450. That power doesn't tell you what any of its random effects does quantifiably in or out of a match, so in case you were wondering, that's the size of one.

DrClever

Yes, please.

I'm in the minority (possibly of one!) that quite enjoyed his powers.

ThaRoadWarrior

Here you go. The SAPs that come out of imaginaut randomly are 1113 at 5 covers.

entrailbucket

I forgot she existed, but Mantis's numbers go completely insane. Here she is with the boost (lvl496 base)

Borstock

WTH are those numbers?!

entrailbucket

@Borstock said:
WTH are those numbers?!

That's what I said! I don't remember her numbers being that insane as a 4*, but I also hardly ever used her.

ThaRoadWarrior

@entrailbucket said:
I had a super fun team with her and now I can't remember what it was. I remember waiting for a cascade to go off for like 5 minutes though.

It may have been Shang-Chi, Onslaught, and Negasonic. Even if no, it’s pretty good with him boosted right now

Tiger_Wong

I finally ascended Echo to 5* level. I wanted to push her because I felt she had a good kit with her match damage boost, she makes a strike tile in front, and she’s a GREAT black tile generator.

Tiger_Wong

She’s a winner but that strike tile she makes is VERY weak. It’s also unfortunate that her black passive still has a match damage cap at 285%.

Her k’un-Lun red is awesome though. Costs 7, puts out 9 black tiles and does really good damage.

Glockoma

For black generation, still hooked on the thought of 3Magik5’s purple admix with 4Domino5. It just rains black and then they smash. I like the though of Dark Beast as the third.

The ascensions are just far more interesting than 5*’s.