Champions 2.0 Post-launch FAQ and Discussion

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  • Ed_Dragonrider
    Ed_Dragonrider Posts: 593 Critical Contributor

    @Markot said:

    @Seph1roth5 said:
    Definitely lost my free 1-3 Spidey. Same thing that happened to other people, was just looking at the pile of possible levelups and hitting train like normal. Wasn't til much later that I realized my 3 spidey was nowhere to be found.

    Sent a ticket in to CS.

    Happened to me as well and CS was quite quick and sent me new cover of ascended 166 level Spidey.

    Really? How do I send a ticket?? Never done that before I don't think

  • DrClever
    DrClever Posts: 584 Critical Contributor
    edited September 2023

    @ThaRoadWarrior said:
    In this new ascended vault, ascended Medusa did not generate a daily play token but not ascended ghost rider did.

    I haven't managed to generate a token for it yet, used ascended Medusa, 1Spidey, and Storm.

    Edit: Got one from Psylocke who I don't have ascended.

  • Seph1roth5
    Seph1roth5 Posts: 429 Mover and Shaker

    @Markot said:

    @Seph1roth5 said:
    Definitely lost my free 1-3 Spidey. Same thing that happened to other people, was just looking at the pile of possible levelups and hitting train like normal. Wasn't til much later that I realized my 3 spidey was nowhere to be found.

    Sent a ticket in to CS.

    Happened to me as well and CS was quite quick and sent me new cover of ascended 166 level Spidey.

    Ya I got mine and recruited him good.

    @Markot go to the settings gear from the main screen and click on "help," then in the top right is a "contact us" option.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 5,965 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Kolence said:

    @marvel075 said:
    is the 5 star iron man deal worth getting?

    IMO, It's worth getting just for the 5* champ rewards. Even for a total newbie player. PvE would become super easy. And once it's 550, sell it and remove yourself from the mmr it might have caused. No idea how 550 works, but I'm guessing it's not a point of no return. All this would require a little bit of extra knowledge about how things work, though...

    Matchmaking doesn't work like this -- 550 is indeed a hard break, but there are several softer breaks beforehand, as well as different degrees in between.

  • Kolence
    Kolence Posts: 969 Critical Contributor

    @entrailbucket said:

    @Kolence said:

    @marvel075 said:
    is the 5 star iron man deal worth getting?

    IMO, It's worth getting just for the 5* champ rewards. Even for a total newbie player. PvE would become super easy. And once it's 550, sell it and remove yourself from the mmr it might have caused. No idea how 550 works, but I'm guessing it's not a point of no return. All this would require a little bit of extra knowledge about how things work, though...

    Matchmaking doesn't work like this -- 550 is indeed a hard break, but there are several softer breaks beforehand, as well as different degrees in between.

    Wait, if a player sold the 550's, would his mmr not recover to a lower level?

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 5,965 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Kolence said:

    @entrailbucket said:

    @Kolence said:

    @marvel075 said:
    is the 5 star iron man deal worth getting?

    IMO, It's worth getting just for the 5* champ rewards. Even for a total newbie player. PvE would become super easy. And once it's 550, sell it and remove yourself from the mmr it might have caused. No idea how 550 works, but I'm guessing it's not a point of no return. All this would require a little bit of extra knowledge about how things work, though...

    Matchmaking doesn't work like this -- 550 is indeed a hard break, but there are several softer breaks beforehand, as well as different degrees in between.

    Wait, if a player sold the 550's, would his mmr not recover to a lower level?

    Yes they would. But matchmaking isn't an on/off switch (550/no 550), it's a continuum. So as the player moved from 450 to 550 they'd see increasingly difficult opponents, to prevent them from beating up on weaker players.

  • Borstock
    Borstock Posts: 2,744 Chairperson of the Boards

    Gotta love how consistent the new devs are in releasing features absolutely riddled with bugs. What are we up to with these ascended characters? 5? 6?

  • ProtoformX
    ProtoformX Posts: 29 Just Dropped In

    A few interesting scaling things I found so far:

    1. Ascended 2>3* Thor yellow power at 5 covers does twice the damage of the 3* Thor yellow at the same lvl.

    2. Lvl 166 ascended 2>3* Magneto red power does half of lvl 144 2* Magneto red at 5 covers.

  • SuperCarrot
    SuperCarrot Posts: 206 Tile Toppler

    I know it is early, but seeing all of these numbers…reading these posts…is making me feel like this came out of the oven too soon. I like the enthusiasm and am always a fan of bold attempts, so props to the devs on that.

  • Borstock
    Borstock Posts: 2,744 Chairperson of the Boards

    @SuperCarrot said:
    I know it is early, but seeing all of these numbers…reading these posts…is making me feel like this came out of the oven too soon. I like the enthusiasm and am always a fan of bold attempts, so props to the devs on that.

    Makes you wonder if they test these things at all before their release. So many of the issues are blatantly obvious. It's not as if they could've missed them.

  • LavaManLee
    LavaManLee Posts: 1,459 Chairperson of the Boards

    They have taken a very straightforward fun game and made it overly complex. I can't think of anyone on this forum / DIscord / Reddit / Facebook ever asking for anything like Ascension. It is way too complicated and, as we have seen, riddled with bugs on rollout.

  • SuperCarrot
    SuperCarrot Posts: 206 Tile Toppler

    I’m still trying to figure out what the point is now of 3/5 stars with the exact same powers? Are they just 1200hp costumes? Somebody with an ascended 3Omega Red and higher than 450 Omega, let me know….thanks.

  • trewiltrewil
    trewiltrewil Posts: 76 Match Maker

    @ProtoformX said:
    A few interesting scaling things I found so far:

    1. Ascended 2>3* Thor yellow power at 5 covers does twice the damage of the 3* Thor yellow at the same lvl.

    2. Lvl 166 ascended 2>3* Magneto red power does half of lvl 144 2* Magneto red at 5 covers.

    That's just how scaling works. Higher star ranks are always weaker at the same level, but have higher match damage. The power damage ramps up faster though. This is why the lower stars feel more powerful when everything is boosted to 550 for balance of power.

    It just seems like maybe the ramp is different for ascended champs though, like maybe it is starting at the base level for a 5* even though you actually start at level 450, at 550 you end up in the same place, so every level is more important.... maybe it's just me, but it kind of feels that way.

  • trewiltrewil
    trewiltrewil Posts: 76 Match Maker

    @SuperCarrot said:
    I’m still trying to figure out what the point is now of 3/5 stars with the exact same powers? Are they just 1200hp costumes? Somebody with an ascended 3Omega Red and higher than 450 Omega, let me know….thanks.

    The 3*s are actually more powerful at 550.... so it's like a boost, lol

  • Altair22
    Altair22 Posts: 120 Tile Toppler

    A question to the developers:

    lets say in a PVE or PVP you have a required 3 stars character in a PVP or PVE slot, if the required 3 star has been ascended to a 4 or 5 star, can it sill compete as the primary 3 star character?

    Example in a pve slot it is required you have a 3 star magneto, lets say you only have a 4 star ascended(3 star) magneto, can you still participate?

  • Daredevil217
    Daredevil217 Posts: 3,988 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Altair22 said:
    A question to the developers:

    lets say in a PVE or PVP you have a required 3 stars character in a PVP or PVE slot, if the required 3 star has been ascended to a 4 or 5 star, can it sill compete as the primary 3 star character?

    Example in a pve slot it is required you have a 3 star magneto, lets say you only have a 4 star ascended(3 star) magneto, can you still participate?

    No events have asked you to play a specific character of a specific rarity. They have asked for specific characters OR specific rarities, but not both.

  • Altair22
    Altair22 Posts: 120 Tile Toppler

    Daredevil there are events, OK let say in the current Psylocke PVP, Can you use psylock 3 base at 4 or 5 stars as the primary character?

  • Altair22
    Altair22 Posts: 120 Tile Toppler

    A suggestion to the developers:

    I suggested that Ascended characters be also boosted in PVP and PVE if their are the primary character.

    I noticed in a latest psylocke PVP, a player was playing with a ascended 4 star psylocke 270 level, and it was not boosted.

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