Champions 2.0 Post-launch FAQ and Discussion

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  • Bowgentle
    Bowgentle Posts: 7,926 Chairperson of the Boards

    I think they do test, but everyone there is just BAD at UI design.
    Demi was too, and it continues with BCS.

  • Phumade
    Phumade Posts: 2,496 Chairperson of the Boards

    It does feel like an improvement, but yes more work is needed. This is not really an easy task, so we need to accept the need for many iteration attempts.

  • Borstock
    Borstock Posts: 2,733 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Phumade said:
    It does feel like an improvement, but yes more work is needed. This is not really an easy task, so we need to accept the need for many iteration attempts.

    Outside of the fact that there's nothing we can do about it...why?

  • Scofie
    Scofie GLOBAL_MODERATORS Posts: 1,364 Chairperson of the Boards

    I'm guessing that the ability to consume an ascended character into a partially covered 1* wasn't anticipated and the fix is probably more complex than expected, so it's an iterative process with multiple states until it works as planned. Ascension was a huge feature and a few bugs and issues are bound to crop up.

  • Phumade
    Phumade Posts: 2,496 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Borstock said:

    @Phumade said:
    It does feel like an improvement, but yes more work is needed. This is not really an easy task, so we need to accept the need for many iteration attempts.

    Outside of the fact that there's nothing we can do about it...why?

    I personally don't know what the best workflow for displaying Ascension. so I don't really think they'll be able to craft a great solution in one shot. Already you can see the break between the current UI and the old method where you had to go to each character and level 1-1. Like they had to cobble screens from the before champ days into the UI.

    Its better, but its not as simple or as accessible as the info should be.

  • GJSchaller
    GJSchaller Posts: 21 Just Dropped In

    Potential issue in R288 - I have two Lvl 40 1* Hawkeyes, both are max level & 5/5. I can't seem to Ascend them.

  • Markot
    Markot Posts: 87 Match Maker

    @GJSchaller said:
    Potential issue in R288 - I have two Lvl 40 1* Hawkeyes, both are max level & 5/5. I can't seem to Ascend them.

    Only 1* Iron Man, Spider-Man and Storm were in the first group of characters who are ascendable now. It wasn't said yet when second group will be added nor which characters will be in this second group.

  • GJSchaller
    GJSchaller Posts: 21 Just Dropped In
    edited October 2023

    @Markot said:
    Only 1* Iron Man, Spider-Man and Storm were in the first group of characters who are ascendable now. It wasn't said yet when second group will be added nor which characters will be in this second group.

    I must have missed that - so the three 3-Power 1-Stars can be ascended, but the 2-Power ones can not, at this time. Threw me off when I was reading what level they needed to be, and they mentioned Level 40 for 2-Power 1-Star characters.

  • DyingLegend
    DyingLegend Posts: 1,208 Chairperson of the Boards

    I personally do not like this new systems
    Convoluted and buggy

  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,451 Chairperson of the Boards

    It really seems like a raw deal to ascend a 4* at the 4:1 conversion ratio. I’m curious if the internal calculations on those rewards say otherwise.

  • meadowsweet
    meadowsweet Posts: 257 Mover and Shaker

    @GJSchaller said:

    @Markot said:
    Only 1* Iron Man, Spider-Man and Storm were in the first group of characters who are ascendable now. It wasn't said yet when second group will be added nor which characters will be in this second group.

    I must have missed that - so the three 3-Power 1-Stars can be ascended, but the 2-Power ones can not, at this time. Threw me off when I was reading what level they needed to be, and they mentioned Level 40 for 2-Power 1-Star characters.

    First wave:

  • Altair22
    Altair22 Posts: 120 Tile Toppler

    @meadowsweet said:

    @GJSchaller said:

    @Markot said:
    Only 1* Iron Man, Spider-Man and Storm were in the first group of characters who are ascendable now. It wasn't said yet when second group will be added nor which characters will be in this second group.

    I must have missed that - so the three 3-Power 1-Stars can be ascended, but the 2-Power ones can not, at this time. Threw me off when I was reading what level they needed to be, and they mentioned Level 40 for 2-Power 1-Star characters.

    First wave:

    I think the 2nd wave will come in the next few weeks

  • BlixTheFrog
    BlixTheFrog Posts: 190 Tile Toppler

    @Altair22 said:

    @meadowsweet said:

    @GJSchaller said:

    @Markot said:
    Only 1* Iron Man, Spider-Man and Storm were in the first group of characters who are ascendable now. It wasn't said yet when second group will be added nor which characters will be in this second group.

    I must have missed that - so the three 3-Power 1-Stars can be ascended, but the 2-Power ones can not, at this time. Threw me off when I was reading what level they needed to be, and they mentioned Level 40 for 2-Power 1-Star characters.

    First wave:

    I think the 2nd wave will come in the next few weeks

    I think it will come only when the rewards thing is fixed.

  • Bowgentle
    Bowgentle Posts: 7,926 Chairperson of the Boards

    @BlixTheFrog said:

    @Altair22 said:

    @meadowsweet said:

    @GJSchaller said:

    @Markot said:
    Only 1* Iron Man, Spider-Man and Storm were in the first group of characters who are ascendable now. It wasn't said yet when second group will be added nor which characters will be in this second group.

    I must have missed that - so the three 3-Power 1-Stars can be ascended, but the 2-Power ones can not, at this time. Threw me off when I was reading what level they needed to be, and they mentioned Level 40 for 2-Power 1-Star characters.

    First wave:

    I think the 2nd wave will come in the next few weeks

    I think it will come only when the rewards thing is fixed.

    Which hopefully shouldn't take them weeks, but who knows.

  • Ptahhotep
    Ptahhotep Posts: 428 Mover and Shaker

    I doubt we will be able to ascend the remaining one stars until they have a third power.

  • Bad
    Bad Posts: 3,146 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited October 2023

    They have to fix rewards and manually send them, add a third power to 1* and fix it, and make the ascended scheme and probably nerf for chavez polaris or grocket.
    I wouldn't like to be in their shoes right now.

  • Punisher5784
    Punisher5784 Posts: 3,845 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited October 2023

    @Bad said:
    They have to fix rewards and manually send them, add a third power to 1* and fix it, and make the ascended scheme and probably nerf for chavez polaris or grocket.
    I wouldn't like to be in their shoes right now.

    They already nerfed the 3-star health so they're in the process. Plus one screenshot has 1-Star BW with a third yellow power, so that should happen soon too

  • Bowgentle
    Bowgentle Posts: 7,926 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited October 2023

    Yeah I would hope that they have a rollout Plan for this feature - which they coded themselves, of their own free will - ready.
    This got interrupted by the rewards bugs, but nerfing problematic 3s and 4s, and the balancing of health levels should have been accounted for in the plan, these are not "oops, extra work!" Things that they discovered after rollout.

  • Borstock
    Borstock Posts: 2,733 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Bowgentle said:
    Yeah I would hope that they have a rollout Plan for this feature -

    I know you're not new, so...

    Bow, WHAT...DID...YOU...TAKE?

  • Bowgentle
    Bowgentle Posts: 7,926 Chairperson of the Boards

    I mean the plan can't have been "rollout 5/9786 4s and see what happens next"...
    ...
    ...
    Oh dear

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