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  • TheXMan
    TheXMan Posts: 188 Tile Toppler

    Of course I hit people on my initial climb but not people in the room without asking. You said you literally cannot play the game without attacking and taking points. I don't want to argue. I was just pointing out I think you are in the minority and I don't think most people want to play pvp like you do...it isn't worth the effort.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 5,984 Chairperson of the Boards

    So then, on your "initial climb," you do indeed take points away from players. Unless you shield check every single person you attack, you can't play the game without taking points away from real people.

    Anyway, that was exactly my point -- I am in the minority. The top end players today play a PvP game that's mostly boring, and it's mostly boring because they CHOOSE to play in a way that's mostly boring, either because they're not aware of an alternative or they prefer it to be boring.

    I think it's sad. Truly competitive, cutthroat, spiteful MPQ PvP is one of the most fun games I've ever played, and I've played a LOT of games.

  • killahKlown
    killahKlown Posts: 584 Critical Contributor
    edited June 2023

    I've been hit many times by Xman. He regularly takes points from others.

  • Bad
    Bad Posts: 3,146 Chairperson of the Boards

    I never used Line to play pvp and I never will.
    Probably for that reason I early noticed the change in pvp dropping points because of chasm.
    I used to give some minutes to my queues before attacking when I was on 900 points, a lot more than many people did with me.
    However it's true that pvp is funnier this way, you never will be T1 because anyone can and will hit you.
    After chasm nerf, if pvp becomes easier to play again perhaps I will get 1200 again but it's unlikely because I'm used to play pvp to minimal right now.

  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 10,342 Chairperson of the Boards

    We have no idea what the proposed changes to MMR are going to be so maybe they will find a way to make PvP competitive again or cut out the collusion, although I am not sure that is the reason for messing around with MMR itself.

  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 10,342 Chairperson of the Boards

    What is the history of the different slices becoming how they did? I used to play in Slice 2 years back but not to a high enough level where I mattered (possibly I was seal clubbed a few times, who knows) but how did Slice 2 end up like it did? Was this a conscious thing or did it just evolve that way?

  • Bowgentle
    Bowgentle Posts: 7,926 Chairperson of the Boards

    Alliances split into different slices, some wanted to cooperate, others... Not so much.

  • Borstock
    Borstock Posts: 2,744 Chairperson of the Boards

    @entrailbucket said:
    I think it's sad. Truly competitive, cutthroat, spiteful MPQ PvP is one of the most fun games I've ever played, and I've played a LOT of games.

    I don't enjoy it EVERY PvP. Sometimes, it's just too time-consuming. I just want to hit 1200 and shield out.

    That being said, I can honestly say that some of the most fun I've had over the years was trading 50+ matches at a clip with a single opponent. We would inevitably end up right where we both started, but the bragging rights of "your team wiped twice, mine only wiped once" was kinda fun.

  • TheXMan
    TheXMan Posts: 188 Tile Toppler
    edited June 2023

    I've been hit many times by Xman. He regularly takes points from others.

    Did I say I do not? EB said you literally cannot play pvp without taking points and I was just pointing out you can using shields. I agree it would be very hard starting from 0 but he was talking about losing 200 points so that is likely high enough that you can gain off people that are shielded. I think you might have been in the slice room for awhile so I hope I didn't hit you then.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 5,984 Chairperson of the Boards

    @TheXMan said:

    I've been hit many times by Xman. He regularly takes points from others.

    Did I say I do not? EB said you literally cannot play pvp without taking points and I was just pointing out you can using shields. I agree it would be very hard starting from 0 but he was talking about losing 200 points so that is likely high enough that you can gain off people that are shielded. I think you might have been in the slice room for awhile so I hope I didn't hit you then.

    Ok, so give it a try. Play an entire event without taking a single point from anyone, provide video documentation, and I'll agree that it's possible.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 5,984 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Borstock said:

    @entrailbucket said:
    I think it's sad. Truly competitive, cutthroat, spiteful MPQ PvP is one of the most fun games I've ever played, and I've played a LOT of games.

    I don't enjoy it EVERY PvP. Sometimes, it's just too time-consuming. I just want to hit 1200 and shield out.

    That being said, I can honestly say that some of the most fun I've had over the years was trading 50+ matches at a clip with a single opponent. We would inevitably end up right where we both started, but the bragging rights of "your team wiped twice, mine only wiped once" was kinda fun.

    This is roughly how I play the game now. I only play the last 2 hours of every event. I try to bait people into wars, then dump and do 50 or 100 on them. If nobody wants to war me I'll climb and shield, but it makes me sad.

    I want to be clear that I've got nothing against coordination, per se. Team play is really fun, and I've had a lot of fun playing as a team in the past. But "team" does not equal "2,000 players," or whatever you people have in your rooms now. 20 or 25 is about the limit.

    MPQ PvP needs enemies to be fun. If 99% of the targets you see are "friendly" (and I keep quoting that because you are not actually friends with 2,000 people, you've just agreed not to attack each other...if one of them passes you on the leaderboard, you'll absolutely get angry about it and use a secret cupcake to pass them), then the game becomes horrifically boring.

  • killahKlown
    killahKlown Posts: 584 Critical Contributor

    @entrailbucket said:

    @TheXMan said:

    I've been hit many times by Xman. He regularly takes points from others.

    Did I say I do not? EB said you literally cannot play pvp without taking points and I was just pointing out you can using shields. I agree it would be very hard starting from 0 but he was talking about losing 200 points so that is likely high enough that you can gain off people that are shielded. I think you might have been in the slice room for awhile so I hope I didn't hit you then.

    Ok, so give it a try. Play an entire event without taking a single point from anyone, provide video documentation, and I'll agree that it's possible.

    There's absolutely no way

  • TheXMan
    TheXMan Posts: 188 Tile Toppler

    @entrailbucket said:

    @TheXMan said:

    I've been hit many times by Xman. He regularly takes points from others.

    Did I say I do not? EB said you literally cannot play pvp without taking points and I was just pointing out you can using shields. I agree it would be very hard starting from 0 but he was talking about losing 200 points so that is likely high enough that you can gain off people that are shielded. I think you might have been in the slice room for awhile so I hope I didn't hit you then.

    Ok, so give it a try. Play an entire event without taking a single point from anyone, provide video documentation, and I'll agree that it's possible.

    I think I have fallen victim to one of the classic blunders...

  • Scofie
    Scofie GLOBAL_MODERATORS Posts: 1,397 Chairperson of the Boards

    @TheXMan said:

    @entrailbucket said:

    @TheXMan said:

    I've been hit many times by Xman. He regularly takes points from others.

    Did I say I do not? EB said you literally cannot play pvp without taking points and I was just pointing out you can using shields. I agree it would be very hard starting from 0 but he was talking about losing 200 points so that is likely high enough that you can gain off people that are shielded. I think you might have been in the slice room for awhile so I hope I didn't hit you then.

    Ok, so give it a try. Play an entire event without taking a single point from anyone, provide video documentation, and I'll agree that it's possible.

    I think I have fallen victim to one of the classic blunders...

    Never get involved in a land war in Asia?

  • TheXMan
    TheXMan Posts: 188 Tile Toppler

    @Scofie said:

    @TheXMan said:

    @entrailbucket said:

    @TheXMan said:

    I've been hit many times by Xman. He regularly takes points from others.

    Did I say I do not? EB said you literally cannot play pvp without taking points and I was just pointing out you can using shields. I agree it would be very hard starting from 0 but he was talking about losing 200 points so that is likely high enough that you can gain off people that are shielded. I think you might have been in the slice room for awhile so I hope I didn't hit you then.

    Ok, so give it a try. Play an entire event without taking a single point from anyone, provide video documentation, and I'll agree that it's possible.

    I think I have fallen victim to one of the classic blunders...

    Never get involved in a land war in Asia?

    Bingo :)

  • Punisher5784
    Punisher5784 Posts: 3,845 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited June 2023

    @Zalasta said:
    10 pages in and nobody has complained about not getting retroactive bonus shards for all previous pulls? I am disappointed.

    I wish! I still continued to pull when this was announced because I didn't believe the increase would make a difference, but it actually does!

    Anyways, it's always been known that Hoarders get the benefit of changes like these, but it's at the risk of waiting, and waiting sucks!

  • ThisisClemFandango
    ThisisClemFandango Posts: 854 Critical Contributor

    @Zalasta said:
    10 pages in and nobody has complained about not getting retroactive bonus shards for all previous pulls? I am disappointed.

    More than happy to oblige.

    WHERE THE HELL IS ALL MY SHARDS FOR THE LAST 5 YEARS, WHY IS NO ONE ANSWERING, I DEMAND COMPENSATION AND ALSO PAY ME ATTENTION.

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