***** Thor (Mighty Thor) *****

Vhailorx

Early pvp play suggests that her boardshake will be very variable.   Kind of like halfthor with slightly less ap gen, but no need to worry about health.

And her yellow seems better than I had anticipated, so her damage output may have survived the red nerf better than I expected as well. 

Venomous

Someone said it before but I like Thoress. No idea why but it’s a nice name. 

Maybe name her something off the fact she likes Charged tiles or something? 

Could also just call her Fosthor. Foster + Thor.

Vhailorx

So far fosthor is my favorite. A good old fashioned portmanteau is just what we need here.

TheEyeDoctorsWife

As previously noted , she seems destined to be meta . Plays well with others too. As for naming , I’m thinking the female Thor of ThorF, or woman Thor WThor

HoundofShadow

I think we might have different mmr because I see Kitty/Polaris/BRB or Colossus/Apocalypse/SW most of the time once I reach high enough points in shield sim. When I said Kitty/Polaris/BRB is coming to an end, I'm referring to their frequency of appearance in shield sim, not the difficulty of beating them. Currently, their appearances are as frequent as Colossus/SW/Apocalypse. Come August/September, we'll see more 5*JF/Polaris/BRB and 5* KK/Polaris/BRB, and Kitty/BRB/Polaris appearances will be reduced.

As for Polaris/5* Carol, there's a probability of winfinite by firing 5* JF red and spamming 5* JF yellow. A champed 5 JF should be able to make this happen and 5" Carol sending Polaris airborne should stop her from flooding the board with special tiles.

Bad

Jhor will shake the meta upside down. She is a monster. Playing her with SW is funny, because you feel good if there is a turn where her cd survives.
Poor godboosted ronan doesn't have any chance too, and his cd is fortified. 
With Jhor you can never know if AI will get AP, will get match critical, etc...
Even playing colossus I needed the 10 healthpacks today.

Tiger_Wong

Count me as a fan of the FosThor nickname. 

She’s crazy. I got her down now and she’s so weird yet fun. She’s not like SC. You can put him with nearly anybody. She’s not like Gargantos. He’s becomes meta with a specific teammate. She’s not like Wanda. Wanda is a defensive specialist who speeds you up and powers you up. But FosThor has a lot of their elements. You can’t just put FosThor on any team. There’s a strategy to her craziness. 

I just reached 50+ wins in her PVP. She’s so fun. Been using Knull/5*Carol lately. Gonna try her with Sersi/5*Carol next. 

Vhailorx

Tiger_Wong said:

Count me as a fan of the FosThor nickname.

She’s crazy. I got her down now and she’s so weird yet fun. She’s not like SC. You can put him with nearly anybody. She’s not like Gargantos. He’s becomes meta with a specific teammate. She’s not like Wanda. Wanda is a defensive specialist who speeds you up and powers you up. But FosThor has a lot of their elements. You can’t just put FosThor on any team. There’s a strategy to her craziness. 

I just reached 50+ wins in her PVP. She’s so fun. Been using Knull/5*Carol lately. Gonna try her with Sersi/5*Carol next. 

I think using her with someone like sersei, 5witch, or domino to alter the composition of the board and really leverage her board shake makes sense. 

ThisisClemFandango

Obviously we can't tell the absolute madness she will cause when she's fully covered but what's people's thinking on skill tree?
I'm thinking 3/5/5 as her red seems to be less of a heavy hitter then the blue and yellow.
Interested to hear the forums thoughts

Vhailorx

ThisisClemFandango said:

Obviously we can't tell the absolute madness she will cause when she's fully covered but what's people's thinking on skill tree?
I'm thinking 3/5/5 as her red seems to be less of a heavy hitter then the blue and yellow.
Interested to hear the forums thoughts

As between red and yellow, the yellow is more impressive in this PVP event. I suspect that the red will look noticeably better with 5 covers, even if it isn't astoundingly good as per the preview, and 6ap powers are WAY better than 8ap powers in a vacuum. That said, I still think the randomized damage of the yellow combined with its boardshake and higher damage output will make it more potent, since it retains value against invis opponents and for pvp defense (think BRB green but 4ap cheaper and with a higher ceiling).

As between red and blue, I still think red at 5 makes more sense. Am I missing something? I don't see how setting her blue to 5 is especially helpful; the thing I want from her blue is the passive element that sadly doesn't improve much with covers (the boardshake to start each turn and after each cast).

There are two scenarios cases where having the blue at 5 might help:

(1) if you want to cast yellow immediately then having blue set to 5 will passively increase yellow damage most of the time, and;

(2) the extra charged tile from casting the blue active will make the yellow hit a bit harder when chained.  Is saving up 14 blue and 16 yellow to cast back-to-back-to-back-to-back a viable strategy?  maybe so, but I suspect that going 5/3/5 and relying on a partner for charged tile generation will be more efficient in pick3. 

I honestly don't know how often either of those scenarios will be relevant. 

Venomous

I just have to say.... I'm astonished at two things looking at the comments. The first. The sheer excitement and thrill everyone has for her. The amount of positivity and excitement is amazing. The second and the one I find more startling... Is the fact no one seems to be able to decide on a good kit. Either 5/5/3, 5/3/5, or 3/5/5. Personally based on how I played her in PVP. I think that her focus is getting Charged tiles on the board. Who you pair her with will drastically choose the optimal build for her. If you can get someone else to spawn charged tiles for example, 5/3/5, may be the best option. But her alone or with people who don't do Charged tiles... It's a tougher call. 

But going a whim and my experience using her in PvP, that Yellow does more damage than her Red. That is, unless you generate or destroy more of them. 

Final note: I wanna see what people will add to her meta. Starting now, any new characters with Charged tiles will basically jump in the meta. And any of them can prove to be her best ally. 

Venomous

Oh and to add to this. If they continue to rework and fix old characters, what will happen when Havok or Black Bolt are fixed? I suspect they'll prove to be very powerful partners for Fosthor. 

HoundofShadow

Black Bolt will be powerful if they remove the cap or increase the cap for passive charged tiles. I'm not sure how Havok can be saved. He's in the average pile that doesn't need help except match damage update. He's not like Wasp or Banner who needs help, nor is he like Odin or Ronan. If I were to rank him on the list of characters who need buff urgently, he will be at the bottom 10.

acescracked

Challenge time!

When in a match bring up JaneThorster's blue power description. Hold phone at arm's length and try to read it.
😆

Bad

Imo favoring red or blue will depend on her partners and if they have a better red.
There is another point here: what you have expetienced (cascade madness) is a mirror match. It's expected many mirror matches as she will be meta. However. 
What she does is doubled for mirror matching her. If she is alone she will need at least blue on 4 (at start of each turn she converts 3 basic tiles).
Then it makes a lot more sense to set the yellow on 5.
By the way a champed Jhor and BB on a mirror match would mean the end of the board, or something like that. 
About havok, he would need extra AP, perhaps obtaining an extra AP in exchange for channeling AP.

Vhailorx

Bad said:

Imo favoring red or blue will depend on her partners and if they have a better red.
There is another point here: what you have expetienced (cascade madness) is a mirror match. It's expected many mirror matches as she will be meta. However. 
What she does is doubled for mirror matching her. If she is alone she will need at least blue on 4 (at start of each turn she converts 3 basic tiles).
Then it makes a lot more sense to set the yellow on 5.
By the way a champed Jhor and BB on a mirror match would mean the end of the board, or something like that. 
About havok, he would need extra AP, perhaps obtaining an extra AP in exchange for channeling AP.

I believe her blue only ever creates one charged tiles at the start of each turn.  At 4 blue covers, she also creates 3 charged tiles at the start of the match. An I misreading her blue?

Bad

PASSIVE) Field work's a little more interesting when you've got a star hammer with lightning in it, isn't it? Mjolnir's certainly got a field of its own! At the start of the battle, Thor converts 1 random basic tile(s) into Charged tile(s). At the beginning of her turn, Thor converts 1 random basic tile(s) into Charged tile(s). If Thor has 8 AP or less in any of her strongest colors, at the beginning of her turn and whenever she fires an ability, Thor destroys 1 random adjacent tile to each Charged tile on the board, prioritizing special tiles. (Destroyed tiles do not deal damage or generate AP).

• Level 2: At the start of the battle, Thor converts 2 random basic tiles into Charged tile(s).
• Level 3: Converts 4 random basic tiles into Charged tile(s).
• Level 4: At the start of the battle, Thor converts 3 random basic tiles into Charged tile(s).
• Level 5: Converts 5 random basic tiles into Charged tile(s).

Edit: about this topic, on my initial comments I counted her as creating 1 charged tile too.
So I suspect they finally changed it.

HoundofShadow

There's no need to suspect. It was already changed when the numbers were revealed. I mentioned them on page 4.

Her blue passive has been changed:

1.  The number of charged tiles created at the start of the turn is reduced from 2 to 1.
2. She needs to have fewer than 9 aps in any of red/blue/yellow to destroy tiles passively.

Her yellow has been changed:
1. The maximum number of charged tiles created has been raised to 4.

Are there any other interesting teams I'm missing out with 5JF? 

ThaRoadWarrior

What if the Royal Family node gets updated to replace Medusa with Jane?

HoundofShadow

It's not a big change. SC will still take them down with ease. 

And I noticed that charged tiles didn't destroy charged tiles. It chose to destroy basic tiles instead. I wonder if IceIX misread the part where he said charged tiles will be treated as special tiles. Or maybe I missed out on that?