***** Cyclops (Phoenix Five) *****

ThaRoadWarrior

At these power prices, and being RYG, he seems like a hard requirement you bring 50% Thor, which in pick 2 seems like a nightmare. I'm curious if that yellow a) stacks on repeated firing and b) the effects linger beyond cyclops getting burned down.

Omegased

ThaRoadWarrior said:

At these power prices, and being RYG, he seems like a hard requirement you bring 50% Thor, which in pick 2 seems like a nightmare. I'm curious if that yellow a) stacks on repeated firing and b) the effects linger beyond cyclops getting burned down.

I agree, but the only concern is if you fire Cykes yellow too often, thor will start tanking.

acescracked

SourCream said:

Can he survives long enough to cast any ability against Hulk ?

That's current state of PVP, sadly. 4* not enough health and 5* can't do anything against Hulk.

Brb/kitty kills any ihulk team. 5* Carnage will stop ihulk green door.

ThaRoadWarrior

Omegased said:

ThaRoadWarrior said:

At these power prices, and being RYG, he seems like a hard requirement you bring 50% Thor, which in pick 2 seems like a nightmare. I'm curious if that yellow a) stacks on repeated firing and b) the effects linger beyond cyclops getting burned down.

I agree, but the only concern is if you fire Cykes yellow too often, thor will start tanking.

That’s what I meant by a nightmare - unless you’re in a pick 3 situation it’s highly undesirable to bring Thor in with him. On the other hand I could see this being a cascade factory nightmare with Onslaught/Profe$$or X

HoundofShadow

An iHulk counter destroying 3 basic green tiles after 7 turns... The hope for another reliable Okoye/IHulk counter continues...

I didn't expect PFC to be a hero. If he had a villIan tag instead... 

Red power helps you to gain 3 green aps by destroying green basic tile every 3 turn via his repeater. Chances are, it's going to be 2 or 1 green ap instead unless you pair him with Cable or Hawkeye, which is unlikely.

Yellow power is interesting. The questions are whether it stacks with each cast, and whether it stacks with other characters like Adam Warlock, or it chooses whichever is higher. Also, only basic tiles are swapped. So, tiles spammers like Carbage or Polaris will nullify this portion of his ability

His black power is probably good for wave nodes that are not SCL10, unless he's boosted. It's obviously an end-game power. It reminds me of 5* Captain America's red power, which drains all coloured ap instead.

His green power is a backup before you fire his yellow power, just in case you there isn't  any tile to swap.

There's only 1 build for him and that's 3/5/5.

He's an obvious support character for short matches, so I would use him only for his yellow power, and maybe green power. I think I would focus around a team that deals heavy match damage and creates critical tiles, like America Chavez and Killmonger.

Talahamut

9 red AP for 3 red 3-turn repeaters.

It wouldn't be so bad if each one was started at a different turn index - 1 at 1, 1 at 2, and 1 at 3 (like Wolfsbane's CDs). Then at least it would start doing something soon.

wolfknight34

Wow just noticed that Cyclops has made it to 5* club and he has 4 colours in powers.

Taganov

Heart breaking. Slow, over-designed and over-costed. By the time the planets align for the passive effects of red and yellow to snowball, you're probably dead or the match is over anyway. Could be good for wave nodes? But why debut P5yke if you have 1/2 Thor? Nuke is both conditional and expensive. My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.

helix72

" Increases all Cyclops's teammates' match damage by 60%."
Does it increase his too, or just his teammates? The way it's worded it sounds like it doesn't apply to him only the other 2, but that would seem...I dunno, kinda weird?

"Swaps a pair of basic tiles for each Team-Up AP you have."
You could take him, Main Event Hulk, and 5* Carnage and create quite the busy little tile moving team.

EDIT: do you get to pick which 2 tiles to swap, or is it random?

abenness

Repeater synergy with 4* Emma?

I hoping he'll work ok in practice, and can do something in 5e pve.

Ptahhotep

If his yellow switches to black and he subsequently regains an active ally does it revert to yellow or remain black?

helix72

So I realize the dates are messed up, but is this another Profe$$or X situation?

Let's assume for a moment that the dates on the Legendary Store are correct but list the wrong month (should be February, not January).

In that case, by chronological order:
02/11 you can pull him with HP from the Cover Store (singles, 10 packs, and 40 packs)
02/14 he's featured in PvE
02/21 you can pull him with CP from the Legendary Store

I really hope this isn't correct.

jredd

acescracked said:

SourCream said:

Can he survives long enough to cast any ability against Hulk ?

That's current state of PVP, sadly. 4* not enough health and 5* can't do anything against Hulk.

Brb/kitty kills any ihulk team. 5* Carnage will stop ihulk green door.

my brb/kitty goes down all the time to ihulk. if you don't fire his blue by turn 3 at the latest you're pretty much toasted. especially if the other team matches some team-ups 

BlackBoltRocks

helix72 said:

So I realize the dates are messed up, but is this another Profe$$or X situation?

Let's assume for a moment that the dates on the Legendary Store are correct but list the wrong month (should be February, not January).

In that case, by chronological order:
02/11 you can pull him with HP from the Cover Store (singles, 10 packs, and 40 packs)
02/14 he's featured in PvE
02/21 you can pull him with CP from the Legendary Store

I really hope this isn't correct.

Could be the wording.

The "featured" in Pve (it lists "Meet Rocket & Groot", but knowing the devs it will be anything else, maybe Simulator), could simply mean that Cyclops sharts are progression rewards, but he's not the 5* essential. They will probably throw in another sacrificial 5* lamb, just like how Banner was 5e when Yellowjacket sharts were awarded in progression.

Ptahhotep

helix72 said:

02/14 he's featured in PvE

This will be the usual shards as progression rewards with someone else featured (along with the usual complaints about missing out on shards for the featured character).

wymtime

Here are a couple of ways they could have made Cyclops actually a good character.

red at level 5 puts out 3 repeaters.  1 starts at one, one starts at 2, one starts at 3. Each way me goes to a 3 turn repeater.  This way you might actually generate some green AP.  At level 3 you get 2 one starts at one the other at 2.

for green just lower the cost to 8 just like Kamala Khan.  Or add throws teammates airborn for 2 turn allowing him to fire black.

 To the Dev team.  I know you work hard to make these characters and you try to make them balanced.  Right now it feels like you are erroring on the side of caution and just making underwhelming characters.  If you were regularly balancing characters this philosophy would be ok.  The reality is if a new character is a boom or bust you just move on to the next one with no regard for your customers.  Very disappointing 

Theghouse

Meh.

Red is too expensive for low damage and long repeaters.  Yellow is by far the best power.  The match damage boost is not tied to any tiles and seems irreversible.  Even better if it stacks with multiple uses.  Board shake can be nice too.  Green is expensive but can be useful, if you bring someone with a better red power.  Black is a hail Mary if the match is falling apart, at 13 ap can't see it being used much.  3/5/5 in almost all situations.

In pick 3, I think the obvious pairing is Thorkoye.  It gives you an offensive use for yellow when you don't need Okoye's heal and if you already have a couple TUs the board shake can probably generate more TU off cascades then the few Okoye places.  You have no blue and purple outlet but with match damage and power damage boosts and Thor's acceleration it probably won't matter too much.

Might have a use with Apoc and BRB as a way to turn your accelerated green to red for Apoc, and a second outlet for yellow is Apoc's repeaters are still on the board.  Probably still not as good or fast as Polaris or halfThor.

In pick 2, he might be interesting with YJ.  Boosted Match damage plus YJ's extra damage on matches could be powerful, and cascade off of board shake will generate more match damage and keep YJ invisible.  But unlike with Thorkoye there's no reason to chase TU with this team so board shake could be limited.  If the essential isn't a red user, I could see using him 5/5/3 with YJ, taking what you can get out of Cyke's red for some damage and slow green acceleration.

Wish he was better...

DyingLegend

I'd be more excited for 5 stars if I could cover them before going into classic purgatory. 

He looks decent though 

shardwick

His red is underwhelming. It could have been awesome if it was a passive that converted one green tile to a red protect tile whenever another teammate received damage. Or if X amount of green tiles are on the board at the start of your turn then it would convert two green tiles to two red tiles.

acescracked

jredd said:

acescracked said:

SourCream said:

Can he survives long enough to cast any ability against Hulk ?

That's current state of PVP, sadly. 4* not enough health and 5* can't do anything against Hulk.

Brb/kitty kills any ihulk team. 5* Carnage will stop ihulk green door.

my brb/kitty goes down all the time to ihulk. if you don't fire his blue by turn 3 at the latest you're pretty much toasted. especially if the other team matches some team-ups 

Yea it's not auto-play, you do have to pay attention. Deny tu, boost blu, flip okoyoe to the back if they get a few tus, fire kitty red, bring an MBW tu.

If your losing alot it's due to player errors. Yes, there will be a game where the crazy magic AI cascade happens but you'll lose to most teams that way. Anyway, derailing thread.