New Feature - Saved Covers *Updated (6/19/18)

Smart80

jamesh said:

It will be interesting to see how this interacts with the (undocumented) "complete a character" Heroes for Hire offers.

If you've got a character at 12 covers and pull an unusable one, presumably you won't get the offer if you apply it as a saved cover.  So if you want one of those offers it is probably best to leave the unusable cover in the queue for a while in the hopes of getting the H4H offer.

I guess it is good if you've got multiple unusable covers in your queue: if you want to tilt the chances towards a particular H4H offer, you can apply all the others as saved covers.

Shouldnt it be offered before you pull the unusable one though? ;-)

But if you got 11, get an unusable one, save it, get a usable one to get it on 12 with a saved cover already, I see your point. :-)

captainheath

I doubt they'll remove the undocumented offer.  Besides VIP, I think it is the only other reason that I've spent real money other than the sales.

Punisher5784

@Brigby, @IceIX

Question: If I convert 5 covers for 1, am I getting XP for applying 1 cover or 5? 

Smart80

Punisher5784 said:

@Brigby, @IceIX

Question: If I convert 5 covers for 1, am I getting XP for applying 1 cover or 5? 

Or, do you get xp for saving covers? That would rightaway settle it i guess..

Wonko33

I have a Nico cover that will expire a few hours before the feature comes in , of course , lol 

At least my second Nico cover will be saved 

LambadaDave

Wonko33 said:

I have a Nico cover that will expire a few hours before the feature comes in , of course , lol 

At least my second Nico cover will be saved 

Wonko, if you have the roster slot, recruit them.  It will take up a roster slot, but you can (if I understand the feature correctly) convert it after the release is live.

HoundofShadow

I don't think you can do that. Probably you are thinking about the manual conversion of unusable covers by CS that have been rostered instead of being sold off. 

spatenfloot

LambadaDave said:

Wonko33 said:

I have a Nico cover that will expire a few hours before the feature comes in , of course , lol 

At least my second Nico cover will be saved 

Wonko, if you have the roster slot, recruit them.  It will take up a roster slot, but you can (if I understand the feature correctly) convert it after the release is live.

Only 5 stars

BoyWonder1914

I still haven't been prompted for an update. I was hoping the feature went live this morning so I didn't have to fork over my Jubilee cover from last season's Shield Sim. Ah well, hopefully it's still coming out today. 

wingX

Wonko33 said:

I have a Nico cover that will expire a few hours before the feature comes in , of course , lol 

At least my second Nico cover will be saved 

Anyone know the exact time that the new feature will come in? I have 1 Red Hulk cover expiring in 9hr.

HoundofShadow

It should be out in another hour or two. I'm waiting for this feature too. 8 covers dying on the vine.

Shintok17

New features and Boss events usually start at 12 PM Eastern Time in the U.S. for me at least. So in about 36 Minutes. 

MrCroaker64

I'll be honest, I only read the first three (3) pages of this before getting tired of the complaining, so I don't know if anyone has posted something similar to this.

Here's how I see it, not that I expect my opinion is all that important.

This is a new process that gives you some flexibility. If you feel that it is too much trouble, or that the cover swap ratio is out of line, I would suspect that you can still sell the cover for ISO. Or, you can save up to 5 covers of each maxxed out color and choose NOT to convert them, thus saving ten (10) covers that otherwise would have been sold or expired. Those covers can then be converted to Champ levels once you have pulled the right cover. This gives a lot more flexibility when it comes to pulling covers or setting Bonus Heroes since you now have a cushion if you pull the wrong color.

Could it have been done differently? Colorless covers? Lower exchange ratio? Absolutely.
Would those solutions have been more player friendly? Of course.

But, at the end of the day, what they are implementing is better than what we have had since the game was released. For that reason alone, I say "Thank You" to the Dev's.

I also hope that they look at the implementation, take our feedback, and make adjustments along the way. But, if they choose not to, we are still better off than we were last week.

-Croak

HoundofShadow

I believe that you can save only a maximum of 5 covers per character.

As for colour cover, it would be as good as rewriting the whole code from scratch.

GrimSkald

Other people have said similar things to this, but I think it bears repeating - from my perspective the main point of this feature is to be able to save covers that are about to expire indefinitely, to give you additional time and pulls to cover the character.  This is actually really good.  I think people are way too focused on the 5:1 ratio, I strongly suspect it will be used extremely rarely.

In general, I've only wasted a handful of covers before I am able to fully cover a character - this new feature will all-but-completely eliminate that waste.  If I get well and truly **** by the RNG then the 5:1 trade may be useful, but that's an outlier of outliers.

I started tracking cover waste around Wasp - I had to burn 4 covers for her before I was able to cover her.  If the new system had been implemented, I would have not burned any, nor would I have needed the 5:1 trade ratio - I would have saved those covers and when I champed Wasp, she would have vaulted to 274.

It is a pity that they're ending the "Latest" swaps, but anyone who used the system knew it wasn't going to be there indefinitely.  Every time I did a swap, I was dreading receiving a message that they were no longer doing it.  Doing the math, even if the Swap system did not exist, I strongly suspect I would still have the same 5* champs that I do now.  I may have had some trouble with Strange and/or Hawkeye, but I think for both of them I started pulling Classics so I probably would have champed them regardless - at worst I would have them close with 2 or 3 covers saved.

In general, this new system means that you'll have about 17 (5/5/2 + 5 extra,) pulls to cover a character - theoretically, it can be as low as 15 (5/5/0 + 5 extra) but that's pretty unlikely.   I think.some of the people with good RNG simulators can figure that out, but I strongly suspect the chance of not covering a character before you're forced to swap 5:1 is really, really low.  I also strongly suspect that one 5:1 trade will cover most of the remaining possibilities, while the chance of needing three 5:1 trades is probably infinitesimal - you're literally pulling 27 covers of the character without pulling a single one of that last color.

zodiac339

Ah, now I see. Once saved, the cover’s color doesn’t matter. Somehow, I thought the cover saved directly to whichever power it was extra for. So I thought a 5/5/2  could have 4 saved to one power and 3 to another. Instead it’s just a total saved thing. My silly misunderstanding.

gmtosca

I have 6 covers about to expire in an hour.  Was I mistaken to assume that the Save Covers feature would have been live by now?

Waddles_Pines

gmtosca said:

I have 6 covers about to expire in an hour.  Was I mistaken to assume that the Save Covers feature would have been live by now?

It's live on Android.  Just updated the app a few mins ago...

IceIX

Punisher5784 said:

@Brigby, @IceIX

Question: If I convert 5 covers for 1, am I getting XP for applying 1 cover or 5? 

No XP for Saving the cover and using the same cover is the same as adding a power normally, so the former. If the covers are used to Champion, you get the XP for each of those instances.

gmtosca

Waddles_Pines said:

gmtosca said:

I have 6 covers about to expire in an hour.  Was I mistaken to assume that the Save Covers feature would have been live by now?

It's live on Android.  Just updated the app a few mins ago...

Thanks.  I'll try to see if it updated already.