MPQ Sneak Peek: April 2018 Edition *Updated (4/27/18)

bluewolf

As expected, the join forces nodes disappear as each sub closes.  I’m in S1.

JHawkInc

Smart80 said:

Still old news, but guess it’ll have to do, if its too much trouble to get a simple official answer.

  That is an official answer. Insisting someone come here and repeat that answer is unreasonable.

Smart80

JHawkInc said:

Smart80 said:

Still old news, but guess it’ll have to do, if its too much trouble to get a simple official answer.

  That is an official answer. Insisting someone come here and repeat that answer is unreasonable.s

Once they did stay, once they didnt. I think that makes it very reasonable to ask for some clarification, it doesnt need much time either to respond, would it?

//Removed Insult -Brigby

Spudgutter

Smart80 said:

JHawkInc said:

Smart80 said:

Still old news, but guess it’ll have to do, if its too much trouble to get a simple official answer.

  That is an official answer. Insisting someone come here and repeat that answer is unreasonable.s

Once they did stay, once they didnt. I think that makes it very reasonable to ask for some clarification, it doesnt need much time either to respond, would it?

//Removed Insult -Brigby

Considering what was quoted is the official response, i thought that was very reasonable...

tiomono

So do people generally consider 5 weeks to be a fair amount of time between a 5* release and them being featured? How long was ghost rider? I don't remember.

Brigby

*Please keep all comments civil and do not attack other players. Thank you!

In addition, please note that while I do try to answer as many questions as frequently as I can, I am only in office between 9:30am and 6:30pm PT (Give or take). Any questions presented outside of those hours I'm afraid will typically have to wait until I'm back in office for a response. Thank you for understanding.

Smart80

Spudgutter said:

Smart80 said:

JHawkInc said:

Smart80 said:

Still old news, but guess it’ll have to do, if its too much trouble to get a simple official answer.

  That is an official answer. Insisting someone come here and repeat that answer is unreasonable.s

Once they did stay, once they didnt. I think that makes it very reasonable to ask for some clarification, it doesnt need much time either to respond, would it?

//Removed Insult -Brigby

Considering what was quoted is the official response, i thought that was very reasonable...

if that was an official answer to this situation, you would have been right, but that was just a reference to old news.. if i wanted old news, i would have taken the 2 month old topic for the truth, but i rather ask for current info. I still think thats more than reasonable when they changed things around before.

and if you dont like it, thats not my problem...

tiomono

Smart80 said:

Spudgutter said:

Smart80 said:

JHawkInc said:

Smart80 said:

Still old news, but guess it’ll have to do, if its too much trouble to get a simple official answer.

  That is an official answer. Insisting someone come here and repeat that answer is unreasonable.s

Once they did stay, once they didnt. I think that makes it very reasonable to ask for some clarification, it doesnt need much time either to respond, would it?

//Removed Insult -Brigby

Considering what was quoted is the official response, i thought that was very reasonable...

if that was an official answer to this situation, you would have been right, but that was just a reference to old news.. if i wanted old news, i would have taken the 2 month old topic for the truth, but i rather ask for current info. I still think thats more than reasonable when they changed things around before.

and if you dont like it, thats not my problem...

And the way it is working currently as we can see because the event is live, matches the last official update we have on your question.

It is not old news it is official information. And until they decide to change it and update us that will continue to be the current official information.

Smart80

tiomono said:

Smart80 said:

Spudgutter said:

Smart80 said:

JHawkInc said:

Smart80 said:

Still old news, but guess it’ll have to do, if its too much trouble to get a simple official answer.

  That is an official answer. Insisting someone come here and repeat that answer is unreasonable.s

Once they did stay, once they didnt. I think that makes it very reasonable to ask for some clarification, it doesnt need much time either to respond, would it?

//Removed Insult -Brigby

Considering what was quoted is the official response, i thought that was very reasonable...

if that was an official answer to this situation, you would have been right, but that was just a reference to old news.. if i wanted old news, i would have taken the 2 month old topic for the truth, but i rather ask for current info. I still think thats more than reasonable when they changed things around before.

and if you dont like it, thats not my problem...

And the way it is working currently as we can see because the event is live, matches the last official update we have on your question.

It is not old news it is official information. And until they decide to change it and update us that will continue to be the current official information.

Thank you mr hindsight. 

Seriously, everybody stop making a fuss about a simple relevant question. And stop pretending d3 never made a change they turned back later please.

fight4thedream

Smart80 said: Thank you mr hindsight. 

Seriously, everybody stop making a fuss about a simple relevant question. And stop pretending d3 never made a change they turned back later please.

I do not believe it was the actual question that is causing the "fuss" but rather your attitude, @Smart80.

You asked a question and two users went out of their way to provide you both official information and in-game confirmation to answer your question, but instead of thanking them for their help, you begrudgingly accept the info while snarkily focusing the issue on why your question didn't receive an official response.

While I can certainly understand your concern with whether the node would disappear or not (as it was something I was also curious about), I can't understand the lack of gratitude and respect for your fellow users who took the time to address your concern.

So my friendly advice is to check the attitude at the door when you post. If you are not satisfied with a response, either explain why you find the response insufficient civilly and without the snark or ignore it. Otherwise, you risk violating rule 7.

To be honest, you bring up an important issue regarding the lack of clarity with loaner nodes in PvE events and you could even make a good case that whether the node stays or disappears should be included in the event announcements. It is definitely something I feel @Brigby should consider.

But back to my main point: Be cool to each other. No need for the snark.

Smart80

A conversation between Mr Wolf and Jules/Vincent comes to mind...


But I stick to my point, as it was unclear and lots of people were uncertain in other chats and apparently you as well fight.. Semi answering or suggesting its clear from old data, only prevents an up-to-date answer imo. 
And telling me, “you see, in game, we were right” afterwards is showing just as much attitude.

Anyway, pretty please, with sugar on top, tell us if nodes stay or not from now on...

bluewolf

I admit that one of my prior answers might be taken in a negative fashion. I apologize, it was not my intent to say “I told you so”, just to point out the behavior of the node to the community. 

The loaner node behavior is far too inconsistent between different events. Some events have one loaner on the main sub the entire event; some only have loaners on the subs; etc.  The recently run MRG has one that closes, then one that stays, then another that stays so there are two of them at the end.  (Can we all say “arrrgh!” ?)

However, the devs have not (that I recall) changed a loaner node’s behavior between runs of an event without notifying the community.  So despite FFW being new and changing from 1st to the 2nd run, it was expected that the 3rd + runs would be consistent with the second run (disappearing loaners each day.). Some (many?) events have been the same for years in this game and through many runs, so most vets have the expectation of “here’s another run of ______ to grind through, ho hum”.  So that may feed into the responses we give.

broll

Smart80 said:

A conversation between Mr Wolf and Jules/Vincent comes to mind...


But I stick to my point, as it was unclear and lots of people were uncertain in other chats and apparently you as well fight.. Semi answering or suggesting its clear from old data, only prevents an up-to-date answer imo. 
And telling me, “you see, in game, we were right” afterwards is showing just as much attitude.

Anyway, pretty please, with sugar on top, tell us if nodes stay or not from now on...

That may be your opinion, but that opinion is not based in reality.  I have seen numerous times where users answer a question and @Brigby comes in after to either correct or confirm.  In fact, unless it's news no one knows about forum users always beat the official responses because we're generally hovering more actively then they are (which is good because their main job should be making the game).

bluewolf

broll said:

Smart80 said:

A conversation between Mr Wolf and Jules/Vincent comes to mind...


But I stick to my point, as it was unclear and lots of people were uncertain in other chats and apparently you as well fight.. Semi answering or suggesting its clear from old data, only prevents an up-to-date answer imo. 
And telling me, “you see, in game, we were right” afterwards is showing just as much attitude.

Anyway, pretty please, with sugar on top, tell us if nodes stay or not from now on...

That may be your opinion, but that opinion is not based in reality.  I have seen numerous times where posts answer a question and @Brigby comes in after to either correct or confirm.  In fact, unless it's news no one knows about forum users always beat the official responses because we're generally hovering more actively then they are (which is good because their main job should be making the game).

Not to mention - the devs try to follow a reasonable work schedule, while us crazies check the forums and such all the live long day.

Brigby

Hi Everyone. Unless we communicate a newer change that renders the information no longer valid, players can consider past announcements as still pertinent.

But to answer your question directly @Smart80, yes. The Join Forces missions that unlock new Sub-Chapters in Fight For Wakanda should still disappear after their Sub-Chapter concludes.

Smart80

broll said:

Smart80 said:

A conversation between Mr Wolf and Jules/Vincent comes to mind...


But I stick to my point, as it was unclear and lots of people were uncertain in other chats and apparently you as well fight.. Semi answering or suggesting its clear from old data, only prevents an up-to-date answer imo. 
And telling me, “you see, in game, we were right” afterwards is showing just as much attitude.

Anyway, pretty please, with sugar on top, tell us if nodes stay or not from now on...

That may be your opinion, but that opinion is not based in reality.  I have seen numerous times where users answer a question and @Brigby comes in after to either correct or confirm.  In fact, unless it's news no one knows about forum users always beat the official responses because we're generally hovering more actively then they are (which is good because their main job should be making the game).

Well, you got saved on correct or confirm just now I see, eventhough I just made my final grind. Thanks Brigby.

The link to the info shows Feb 22, a thursday, saying the event tomorrow. Probably even gonna fight me on this too, but has an event ever started on a friday? Just saying, that time the info came late as well. Why not now? 

Have they always been consistent? HfH for 5*? Order of boosted 5* (latest)? Not really. Besides, I stick to the fact there is little precedent if an event ran twice with different settings...
The amount of times I’ve seen the question pop up in several LINE chats tells me it wasnt unclear to me alone..

And is an admin really the same as a developer? (No offense)


but do you really wanna keep dragging this on? Im getting quite sick of having to defend myself from types as you and jhawk...

tiomono

Smart80 said:

broll said:

Smart80 said:

A conversation between Mr Wolf and Jules/Vincent comes to mind...


But I stick to my point, as it was unclear and lots of people were uncertain in other chats and apparently you as well fight.. Semi answering or suggesting its clear from old data, only prevents an up-to-date answer imo. 
And telling me, “you see, in game, we were right” afterwards is showing just as much attitude.

Anyway, pretty please, with sugar on top, tell us if nodes stay or not from now on...

That may be your opinion, but that opinion is not based in reality.  I have seen numerous times where users answer a question and @Brigby comes in after to either correct or confirm.  In fact, unless it's news no one knows about forum users always beat the official responses because we're generally hovering more actively then they are (which is good because their main job should be making the game).

Well, you got saved on correct or confirm just now I see, eventhough I just made my final grind. Thanks Brigby.

The link to the info shows Feb 22, a thursday, saying the event tomorrow. Probably even gonna fight me on this too, but has an event ever started on a friday? Just saying, that time the info came late as well. Why not now? 

Have they always been consistent? HfH for 5*? Order of boosted 5* (latest)? Not really. Besides, I stick to the fact there is little precedent if an event ran twice with different settings...
The amount of times I’ve seen the question pop up in several LINE chats tells me it wasnt unclear to me alone..

And is an admin really the same as a developer? (No offense)


but do you really wanna keep dragging this on? Im getting quite sick of having to defend myself from types as you and jhawk...

Friday starts?
I think it has but it seems like that last run of wakanda is the only Friday start I can find. I admit I do not pay much attention to starting days for events. Somebody probably has it all spreadsheeted out for the life of the whole game.

They do start predominantly Sunday, Monday, and Thursday, though.

JHawkInc

Smart80 said:

broll said:

Smart80 said:

A conversation between Mr Wolf and Jules/Vincent comes to mind...


But I stick to my point, as it was unclear and lots of people were uncertain in other chats and apparently you as well fight.. Semi answering or suggesting its clear from old data, only prevents an up-to-date answer imo. 
And telling me, “you see, in game, we were right” afterwards is showing just as much attitude.

Anyway, pretty please, with sugar on top, tell us if nodes stay or not from now on...

That may be your opinion, but that opinion is not based in reality.  I have seen numerous times where users answer a question and @Brigby comes in after to either correct or confirm.  In fact, unless it's news no one knows about forum users always beat the official responses because we're generally hovering more actively then they are (which is good because their main job should be making the game).

Well, you got saved on correct or confirm just now I see, eventhough I just made my final grind. Thanks Brigby.

The link to the info shows Feb 22, a thursday, saying the event tomorrow. Probably even gonna fight me on this too, but has an event ever started on a friday? Just saying, that time the info came late as well. Why not now? 

Have they always been consistent? HfH for 5*? Order of boosted 5* (latest)? Not really. Besides, I stick to the fact there is little precedent if an event ran twice with different settings...
The amount of times I’ve seen the question pop up in several LINE chats tells me it wasnt unclear to me alone..

And is an admin really the same as a developer? (No offense)


but do you really wanna keep dragging this on? Im getting quite sick of having to defend myself from types as you and jhawk...

Of course I'm going to fight you on this because the link says February 21st, and you're just flat out factually wrong, and you are continuing to be needlessly negative over the fact that people tried to help you and you didn't like the response. But you then went from wanting an official response because the linked thread was "too old" (it wasn't) to saying Brigby doesn't count because he's not a developer, so I'm not sure what you plan to accomplish other than making the forums unpleasant for others.

You would not need to defend yourself if you took more care to express criticisms and concerns without attack others (in this case, the credibility of official sources). It's antagonistic in an unproductive way, and that's why you get called out on it.

Spudgutter

Smart80 said:

broll said:

Smart80 said:

A conversation between Mr Wolf and Jules/Vincent comes to mind...


But I stick to my point, as it was unclear and lots of people were uncertain in other chats and apparently you as well fight.. Semi answering or suggesting its clear from old data, only prevents an up-to-date answer imo. 
And telling me, “you see, in game, we were right” afterwards is showing just as much attitude.

Anyway, pretty please, with sugar on top, tell us if nodes stay or not from now on...

That may be your opinion, but that opinion is not based in reality.  I have seen numerous times where users answer a question and @Brigby comes in after to either correct or confirm.  In fact, unless it's news no one knows about forum users always beat the official responses because we're generally hovering more actively then they are (which is good because their main job should be making the game).

Well, you got saved on correct or confirm just now I see, eventhough I just made my final grind. Thanks Brigby.

The link to the info shows Feb 22, a thursday, saying the event tomorrow. Probably even gonna fight me on this too, but has an event ever started on a friday? Just saying, that time the info came late as well. Why not now? 

Have they always been consistent? HfH for 5*? Order of boosted 5* (latest)? Not really. Besides, I stick to the fact there is little precedent if an event ran twice with different settings...
The amount of times I’ve seen the question pop up in several LINE chats tells me it wasnt unclear to me alone..

And is an admin really the same as a developer? (No offense)


but do you really wanna keep dragging this on? Im getting quite sick of having to defend myself from types as you and jhawk...

The link, if you went to it, was posted February 21, a Wednesday, and references "tomorrow" for the event starting on Thursday.  Which is completely normal. 

As to it being unclear and popping up in several line chats, it might be because the forum gets bogged down with unnecessary information and posts? 

A good example of this is a fair question about the nodes that was answered with the very next post.  Requiring more info, this expanded to 5 posts (counting that it was asked it twice).  Due to not accepting the answer, we are now up to 26(!) posts back and forth between half a dozen people.

Maybe, just maybe, all this extra back and forth clogs things up and people cant find any information? 

jamesh

JHawkInc said:

Smart80 said:

The link to the info shows Feb 22, a thursday, saying the event tomorrow. Probably even gonna fight me on this too, but has an event ever started on a friday? Just saying, that time the info came late as well. Why not now?

Of course I'm going to fight you on this because the link says February 21st, and you're just flat out factually wrong, and you are continuing to be needlessly negative over the fact that people tried to help you and you didn't like the response.

For what it is worth, the link shows February 22nd for me too.  The real explanation here is time zones.

From Brigby's perspective, the announcement post was made on the Wednesday and the event to started the following day.  For someone in e.g. Australia, the announcement post and the event start happened on Thursday.

This is just something people need to get used to when working with people spread around the globe.