OSCORP HEROIC - MAY 8-14

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I ground myself to #4 in my bracket and closed the lead to 500 points. It was possible to come back from the point screwup (mine was 7500 points) but it took a lot of effort and my scaling is getting scary as a result. That being said I will probably end top 150 anyways due to end time (Europe) as I am not willing to get up 4 am to play on a workday.

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vetheran wrote:

I ground myself to #4 in my bracket and closed the lead to 500 points. It was possible to come back from the point screwup (mine was 7500 points) but it took a lot of effort and my scaling is getting scary as a result. That being said I will probably end top 150 anyways due to end time (Europe) as I am not willing to get up 4 am to play on a workday.

kind of curious what is the score for 4 in your bracket? i'm 4 in mine at 31880 and I'm only about 300 points behind 1st, shouldn't take me long to catch up.

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I'm glad to see rubber banding isn't so high as to allow people to catapult their way from the bottom to the top entirely.

The mess with nerfed points in city sub aside, that was the most broken aspect of the whole game for me (yes, above mmr and scaling). Someone who continuously plays through the whole event and places high throughout should never lose out to someone who only bothers with a last minute rush. A last minute rush should only give you some nice middling loot - which is more than you'd get by not playing at all - not a chance at the top prices. It seemed to work that way in the simulator, you can imagine how surprised I was when waking up to a top 10 finish after I quit playing at #6 or #7, 6 hours before event's end. I really hope it'll stay like that for the remainder of the time, and my last hours of sleep-induced time out won't push me down to below top 30 - provided I keep playing today of course.

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seanarmstrong wrote:

vetheran wrote:

I ground myself to #4 in my bracket and closed the lead to 500 points. It was possible to come back from the point screwup (mine was 7500 points) but it took a lot of effort and my scaling is getting scary as a result. That being said I will probably end top 150 anyways due to end time (Europe) as I am not willing to get up 4 am to play on a workday.

kind of curious what is the score for 4 in your bracket? i'm 4 in mine at 31880 and I'm only about 300 points behind 1st, shouldn't take me long to catch up.

I am at 31896 placed #5 currently, 1st is 33088.

daveomite

mohio wrote:

daveomite wrote:

Just an update. I still haven't done any nodes since I posted this last message, and have fallen to 38th place now, even with 30,270 in it. But at least, only seem to be about 2,500 from 1st...at least, for now, lol

Oh, and still don't have any node above 170 points right now, but Time for Some Answers has managed to increase to 135 lvl.

If it makes you feel any better, I ground my way to #7 earlier and now sit 3.1k behind our forum friend pasa in 51st. My only consolation is that more than a few of these people are going to mess up their refreshes, so at least I've got 2 more to get back into it.

Also, scores are so crazy close (and nodes worth so little with the weak rubber band) that more than ever it's going to come down to the last refresh and whether you time it right and get just a little bit more done than the next guy.

I don't know about you, kensterr, pasa, reckless, sauce, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc ..... but I will be glad with this mess of an event is finally over.

Oh, and unrelated...I was in the hood LR for a few, just normally work my way to 100 at least in those for iso, etc. Well..I made it to 92, noticed on the progressions it said I already had the 100 prog, did another match, came out, I only had 25 points, yet still shows I have all of the progressions through 100.

Not a big deal...but funny how I just love this system so much sometimes.

kensterr

I'm glad that this event will be over soon, and more glad that Season 1 will be over next week.

Keeping up with everyone else is too much and I sincerely hope that devs DO take notice about requests for non-competitive permanent PVE in Story section.

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kensterr wrote:

I'm glad that this event will be over soon, and more glad that Season 1 will be over next week.

Keeping up with everyone else is too much and I sincerely hope that devs DO take notice about requests for non-competitive permanent PVE in Story section.

I agree on the season 1 thing, if not for season 1 I would probably not try so hard on a few of the PVPs like the last one with loki as a prize. Hopefully they leave a month break between season events.

Spoit

Carthl wrote:

I'm glad to see rubber banding isn't so high as to allow people to catapult their way from the bottom to the top entirely.

The mess with nerfed points in city sub aside, that was the most broken aspect of the whole game for me (yes, above mmr and scaling). Someone who continuously plays through the whole event and places high throughout should never lose out to someone who only bothers with a last minute rush. A last minute rush should only give you some nice middling loot - which is more than you'd get by not playing at all - not a chance at the top prices. It seemed to work that way in the simulator, you can imagine how surprised I was when waking up to a top 10 finish after I quit playing at #6 or #7, 6 hours before event's end. I really hope it'll stay like that for the remainder of the time, and my last hours of sleep-induced time out won't push me down to below top 30 - provided I keep playing today of course.

I dunno, I don't recognize a single name in my main top 10, after it being relatively static for the rest of the event.

And I'm definitely regretting grinding, as these level 200 dakens are wiping me, even with boosts, and even after falling into the 50s, aren't giving that many points to catch back up either

daveomite

seanarmstrong wrote:

kensterr wrote:

I'm glad that this event will be over soon, and more glad that Season 1 will be over next week.

Keeping up with everyone else is too much and I sincerely hope that devs DO take notice about requests for non-competitive permanent PVE in Story section.

I agree on the season 1 thing, if not for season 1 I would probably not try so hard on a few of the PVPs like the last one with loki as a prize. Hopefully they leave a month break between season events.

I can only hope it will be a month. There's just too much going on at the same time, too many days..just too much to try to keep up with. Something like Season 1 is big enough to be it's own thing, with no conflicting PvE's all happening at the same time.

and completely agree with ya ken....Some additions to the Story would be awesome, and nice to have some non pressure/time sensitive non-competition sections added.

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mohio wrote:

reckless442 wrote:

Yeah, I'm wondering where IceIX's miracle rubber-banding is going to happen. I'm in 29th, 4000 behind my main leader, after I ground some the nodes. My Modaken node is level 271 now and my entire roster was slaughtered when I tried to win that a second time. I guess the scaling went so high because I tried to catch up last sub by grinding the nodes down below 200.

The devs really should give out both Daken covers to the top 100 in each bracket, or should at least do that for the brackets that were messed up by the points nerf.

I think the idea was that with a few refreshes you could maybe make up 1000 each time or something.

1000 pts is completely reasonable, the lead didn't mine all the points just 2k-ish of the 4k potential in the first refresh, I expect similar difference in the last 2, so some limited catchup is possible. Certainly I guess lead being on watch, play would have extended looking at an actual threat.

My madaken was at 205 last I looked, that is tough enough, 271 sounds uber-insane. (though with more evolved support than mine and boosts probably still doable 30% of time) Hardly ideal for cathup purposes and that sits on almost 20% of available points. (guess creating most of the gap too

The light RB definitely not allows sim-like play when you just play essentials 3 times and 1-2 random other matches.

Guess most people on top followed similar approach: mine all refreshes down to 90ish point supply. Or skip one through time dilatation. That is like double the games. On the bright side buffed patch is quite a spoiler.

over_clocked

Well I do hope personal scaling gets reset/lowered after the event, I'm not looking forward to lvl 200 enemies right away in the next PvE. If not, that would be like a double whammy for everyone who suffered from the point switcheroo.

Bowgentle

Well let's see.

1st in my main: 102 Punisher, else maxed 2*, decent roster.
2: 83 X-Force, 69 CStorm, 53 Torch, 50 IM35, 50 Storm, etc.
3: 91 Hulk, 85 CStorm, other 2*.
4: Buffed Patch @111.
5: 81 CStorm, 63 MN Thor, 50 IM35, 45 Bag Man.
6: 54 MN Mags, 50 IM35, 50 MStorm, 42 Cap
7: 85 MN Thor, 74 MN Mags, 63 LazyCap, 60 Moonstone, 60 CStorm
8: 76 MN Thor, 50 IM35, 40 CHawkeye, 40 Ares, 32 MStorm
9: 85 CStorm, 85 AWolvie, 72 MN Thor, 71 Ares, 59 OBW
10: 141 IM40, 102 GSBW, 89 Spidey, etc

So, out of those 10 I'd say about half have no business being on top of a 7 day event with 17 hours to go.
Yes of course they'll get passed due to rubberbanding in the last hours, still - this is the first time that people with weak rosters really have been on top this late in a PVE.

So good job devs, you really are making good progress in giving all the rewards to low level players.
Meanwhile, most of us who had to grind to catch up, will probably get scaled out of the next two events.

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I think the worst roster in my top ten has;-

L 52 Thor , L40 Haweye, L32 Storm, L15 Patch, L12 Mags

to use in this event. Should we all just start over again and make life much easier for ourselves?

I am not sure whats happened to JimboJim24 yesterday in the main bracket I now lead by 1K. Should make the 4am run in tomorrow morning much easier.

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I can't believe because I missed the end-time of one sub, I'm going to struggle making the top 30 after I've spent the entire event hovering in the top 10.

Oh well, I guess that's the effect of having low points and fews subs. Plus, I can't complain much when others have had it much worse than me this event.

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kensterr wrote:

I'm glad that this event will be over soon, and more glad that Season 1 will be over next week.

Keeping up with everyone else is too much and I sincerely hope that devs DO take notice about requests for non-competitive permanent PVE in Story section.

Seconded. The game isn't casual at all, or I'm too competitive to simply play and not win any big awards. Either way, it eats up too big a chunk of my life and I plan on stopping or cutting back when the season ends.

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Bowgentle wrote:

Well let's see.

1st in my main: 102 Punisher, else maxed 2*, decent roster.
2: 83 X-Force, 69 CStorm, 53 Torch, 50 IM35, 50 Storm, etc.
3: 91 Hulk, 85 CStorm, other 2*.
4: Buffed Patch @111.
5: 81 CStorm, 63 MN Thor, 50 IM35, 45 Bag Man.
6: 54 MN Mags, 50 IM35, 50 MStorm, 42 Cap
7: 85 MN Thor, 74 MN Mags, 63 LazyCap, 60 Moonstone, 60 CStorm
8: 76 MN Thor, 50 IM35, 40 CHawkeye, 40 Ares, 32 MStorm
9: 85 CStorm, 85 AWolvie, 72 MN Thor, 71 Ares, 59 OBW
10: 141 IM40, 102 GSBW, 89 Spidey, etc

So, out of those 10 I'd say about half have no business being on top of a 7 day event with 17 hours to go.
Yes of course they'll get passed due to rubberbanding in the last hours, still - this is the first time that people with weak rosters really have been on top this late in a PVE.

So good job devs, you really are making good progress in giving all the rewards to low level players.
Meanwhile, most of us who had to grind to catch up, will probably get scaled out of the next two events.

Well, firstly the tight rubberbanding they're using makes the event a lot more volatile... I've been bouncing from 70th place to 1st place when I do my refreshes

Secondly, those aren't really the relevant figures for the roster? One patch cover and a thor above level 60-ish gives you level 100 Patch, level 100 MN Thor, and level 90 mStorm which is a pretty dang good team even when facing moderate scaling. I mean, that's kind of how it's going to work out as long as characters get big buffs in PvE - people with a weaker roster and the buffed and/or essential character have an opportunity to punch above their weight. I don't think that's necessarily something that needs to be "fixed"

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Incidentally, I've wanted to be able to see PvE results afterwards more than PvP results. I know with so many brackets there's going to be variance, but since the scaling was upped to 400 I've been checking my events and the top 10 at the end tends to be (in general) 7-8 people whose front page is maxxed 3*s, 2-3 whose front page is level 85's, and maybe one or two between them, and one or two without any maxxed 2*s. In my subjective opinion 8-2 or 7-3 between high level - developing players seems like a reasonable distribution for a top 10? At the end of an event I'm usually not taking the time to analyze rosters but I'd like to track how the finishes work out to see if that's really how it's working out as a trend, not as isolated observations

Colognoisseur

gamar wrote:

Incidentally, I've wanted to be able to see PvE results afterwards more than PvP results. I know with so many brackets there's going to be variance, but since the scaling was upped to 400 I've been checking my events and the top 10 at the end tends to be (in general) 7-8 people whose front page is maxxed 3*s, 2-3 whose front page is level 85's, and maybe one or two between them, and one or two without any maxxed 2*s. In my subjective opinion 8-2 or 7-3 between high level - developing players seems like a reasonable distribution for a top 10? At the end of an event I'm usually not taking the time to analyze rosters but I'd like to track how the finishes work out to see if that's really how it's working out as a trend, not as isolated observations

Gamar I've been making it a habit to do this since scaling has started and im my data sample the ratio has been mostly 8-2 high level roster over mid-tier/low-level. My top 10's have been mainly populated at the end by teams with multiple 141s. This is why I tell people to not get too upset at the beginning of a PvE wait to the end and see if they are still here. The answer in my brackets has been they are not.

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I'm sorry if this has been asked already or if this is just a stupid question, but are there no more sub-brackets or is there going to be a 12-hour final sub bracket? If there isn't, then this sucks.

Meto5000

Jkells wrote:

I'm sorry if this has been asked already or if this is just a stupid question, but are there no more sub-brackets or is there going to be a 12-hour final sub bracket? If there isn't, then this sucks.

All the nodes that opened up in the main bracket are repeatable. Essentially the main bracket has become the sub for the last 36 hours of the event