OSCORP HEROIC - MAY 8-14

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  • Unknown
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    Carthl wrote:
    Bowgentle wrote:
    Carthl wrote:
    So. I just checked my nodes and "Imposters Assemble" is at 211 for me. Everything else is 70-100, with "Time for some answers" at 142. I get the scaling for the latter one, but Imposters? How? Does it have this absurd level of scaling for everyone?
    My Imposters is at 190, my Time at 212.
    Interesting scaling you got there.

    Interesting would be one way of putting it... if it had stayed that way!

    Actually I just looked again and it's down to 128, which seems about right. I know I wasn't mistaken earlier, I checked it three times. Must have been a glitch.

    That seems more like it; currently my nodes are 162 for Imposters Assemble and 183 for Time for Some Answers. I can ignore both those nodes in the mad final rush and still not have to worry about placement.
  • Unknown
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    morgh wrote:
    My lazy daken node is 274... it went up from 240 in 13 hours of me not playing it - which means that it's thanks to all the people who are winning this node - I actually have no chance to defeat it

    Same for me. I was 0/4 in attempts last night when they were in the high 220's. Sunder + Reaction was devastation. I wasn't boosting and I have a max Patch.

    Now I look and the levels are low 250's, and I haven't tried playing it since I got wiped last night. Community scaling is total ****. Just because someone is able to beat this when their opponents are low level 100's doesn't mean it should inflate mine which are already in the mid 200's.
  • Unknown
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    Im still relatively new to this game and had a question on how I should approach the last eight hours here. I am in 130th with 31k points currently. My required nodes are offering about 300 points each. Should I be not touching these until the last hour or so and grinding as much as possible then or doing some now and then again before the end? I last touched this about 1 am pacific time... thanks in advance for the help.
  • Nonce Equitaur 2
    Nonce Equitaur 2 Posts: 2,269 Chairperson of the Boards
    I'm a 1000 points down from the top ranks of this competition. I'm facing level 359 Daken and other extremely high-level foes.

    Let's look at the top ten people in my bracket. What teams do they possess that allows them to have such high scores?
    #1 #2 #3 #4 #5 #6 #7 #8 #9 #10
Patc -- MX 15 28 55 15 89 28 28 15
Psyl 99 70 -- 18 41 15 18 15 20 --
Iron 99 50 -- 25 48 50 41 45 18 15
Mags 10 -6 17 36 83 46 30 -- 73 -6
Caps -6 35 -6  7 25 19 85 -- 22 67
Thor 85 85 -6 82 55 85 85 85 85 85
Stor 50 50 50 -- -- -- -- 50 43 --
Hawk -6 -- 40 -- -- 40 -- -- 25 --

    None of the top 10 would have much of a chance against a level 359 Daken/Ares team. How the heck could any of these guys scored so well? Are they completely avoiding MMR somehow? Did they just get some extreme benefit from the timing snafu at the start of the competition? Or is the entire top ten of the competition cheating to obtain great scores with mediocre teams?

    I'd love to hear how they are doing it.
  • Unknown
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    Nonce Equitaur 2 wrote:
    I'm a 1000 points down from the top ranks of this competition. I'm facing level 359 Daken and other extremely high-level foes.

    Let's look at the top ten people in my bracket. What teams do they possess that allows them to have such high scores?
    #1 #2 #3 #4 #5 #6 #7 #8 #9 #10
Patc -- MX 15 28 55 15 89 28 28 15
Psyl 99 70 -- 18 41 15 18 15 20 --
Iron 99 50 -- 25 48 50 41 45 18 15
Mags 10 -6 17 36 83 46 30 -- 73 -6
Caps -6 35 -6  7 25 19 85 -- 22 67
Thor 85 85 -6 82 55 85 85 85 85 85
Stor 50 50 50 -- -- -- -- 50 43 --
Hawk -6 -- 40 -- -- 40 -- -- 25 --

    None of the top 10 would have much of a chance against a level 359 Daken/Ares team. How the heck could any of these guys scored so well? Are they completely avoiding MMR somehow? Did they just get some extreme benefit from the timing snafu at the start of the competition? Or is the entire top ten of the competition cheating to obtain great scores with mediocre teams?

    I'd love to hear how they are doing it.

    I have no idea how someone without Patch could possibly be first, but I wouldn't worry about it. Not a single person who's in top 10 right now is going to stay there after people do their T -1 hour refreshes.
  • Unknown
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    Nonce Equitaur 2 wrote:
    I'm a 1000 points down from the top ranks of this competition. I'm facing level 359 Daken and other extremely high-level foes.

    Let's look at the top ten people in my bracket. What teams do they possess that allows them to have such high scores?

    ...

    I'd love to hear how they are doing it.

    Scaling is likely nowhere near the levels we are seeing (I'm seeing 250s for that same node where you have 350s). It's likely that their scaling is only showing 100's or even less. And thanks to them being able to beat that node with relative ease (and us having to grind just to tread water), we get these ****tastic numbers.
  • Unknown
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    Regalis wrote:
    Nonce Equitaur 2 wrote:
    I'm a 1000 points down from the top ranks of this competition. I'm facing level 359 Daken and other extremely high-level foes.

    Let's look at the top ten people in my bracket. What teams do they possess that allows them to have such high scores?

    ...

    I'd love to hear how they are doing it.

    Scaling is likely nowhere near the levels we are seeing (I'm seeing 250s for that same node where you have 350s). It's likely that their scaling is only showing 100's or even less. And thanks to them being able to beat that node with relative ease (and us having to grind just to tread water), we get these ****tastic numbers.

    Think about it, except for Guy #3, I think every one of those rosters, when accounting for the buffs, should have multiple characters over level 100. And this time around the characters we get are a heck of a lot better characters than the DAs, and the AI is stupid.

    I doubt they're seeing the scaling in the 250s, but they should have no problems beating enemy teams in the 100s aside from the final node
  • NorthernPolarity
    NorthernPolarity Posts: 3,531 Chairperson of the Boards
    That daken node is at 158 for me so i think
    Those guys just arent seeing the same ridiculous scaling as you are.
  • Unknown
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    Time for answers: 133/4
    Imposters: 120/1

    I've only played each one twice I think and they've gone up probably 30+ levels.

    I'm about 4k behind and sitting right around 100. This is certainly progress from being in 500 range when I got hit by the Time Incident, but I'm going to have to work quite hard tonight to stand a chance of reaching 30th I think. Still waiting for my stacks to replenish since I cleared them about 10 hours ago, and I'll probably wait until 1-2 hours out before playing any tonight.
  • ZeiramMR
    ZeiramMR Posts: 1,357 Chairperson of the Boards
    I don't think I have ever been happier to get the 3 Health Packs daily reward. That will come in very handy for the node with Classic Daken tonight.
  • Unknown
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    gamar wrote:
    Nonce Equitaur 2 wrote:
    I'm a 1000 points down from the top ranks of this competition. I'm facing level 359 Daken and other extremely high-level foes.

    Let's look at the top ten people in my bracket. What teams do they possess that allows them to have such high scores?
    #1 #2 #3 #4 #5 #6 #7 #8 #9 #10
Patc -- MX 15 28 55 15 89 28 28 15
Psyl 99 70 -- 18 41 15 18 15 20 --
Iron 99 50 -- 25 48 50 41 45 18 15
Mags 10 -6 17 36 83 46 30 -- 73 -6
Caps -6 35 -6  7 25 19 85 -- 22 67
Thor 85 85 -6 82 55 85 85 85 85 85
Stor 50 50 50 -- -- -- -- 50 43 --
Hawk -6 -- 40 -- -- 40 -- -- 25 --

    None of the top 10 would have much of a chance against a level 359 Daken/Ares team. How the heck could any of these guys scored so well? Are they completely avoiding MMR somehow? Did they just get some extreme benefit from the timing snafu at the start of the competition? Or is the entire top ten of the competition cheating to obtain great scores with mediocre teams?

    I'd love to hear how they are doing it.

    I have no idea how someone without Patch could possibly be first, but I wouldn't worry about it. Not a single person who's in top 10 right now is going to stay there after people do their T -1 hour refreshes.

    The answer is that for the very casual and/or new players, the scaling is quite low.
    On my other half's causal account, most of the nodes are in the 30s-40 right now (they were at the minimum 25 earlier in the day) Only the two on the top of the tower are above these. "Imposters Assemble" started at 60 and "Time for Answers" started at 75 (88 currently). With 2**s being boosted by 40 levels, these two nodes are quite doable and everything else is outright trivial for any 1* roster.
  • Spoit
    Spoit Posts: 3,441 Chairperson of the Boards
    Yeah, I think this evening, I'll finally burn my way through the last of my health pack stockpile.

    But yeah, this is definitly the worst PvE I've seen recently in terms of people who haven't even completed the 2* transition taking up all the top 10 slots
  • Unknown
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    Keep in mind difficulty does not scale linearly for levels, because below a certain level the enemy heroes do not have max covers. DA features a lot of characters that are surprisingly weak if they're missing even one cover, like Daken (only 1 strike tile which is easier to clear too) or Venom (Symbiotic Snare doesn't stun team until level 5).
  • Unknown
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    Lyrian wrote:
    gamar wrote:
    I have no idea how someone without Patch could possibly be first, but I wouldn't worry about it. Not a single person who's in top 10 right now is going to stay there after people do their T -1 hour refreshes.

    The answer is that for the very casual and/or new players, the scaling is quite low.
    On my other half's causal account, most of the nodes are in the 30s-40 right now (they were at the minimum 25 earlier in the day) Only the two on the top of the tower are above these. "Imposters Assemble" started at 60 and "Time for Answers" started at 75 (88 currently). With 2**s being boosted by 40 levels, these two nodes are quite doable and everything else is outright trivial for any 1* roster.

    Yeah, granted, but between a 1* roster with 0 Patch covers and a 1* roster with 1 Patch cover, there's simply a large hoard more points available to the second guy.

    It doesn't really matter because, being in top ten with only 8 hours to go none of those guys will have the points available to keep that position at the end, but it's really weird to me that someone could reach first even temporarily while having so many points unavailable to them
  • Unknown
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    Nonce Equitaur 2 wrote:
    I'm a 1000 points down from the top ranks of this competition. I'm facing level 359 Daken and other extremely high-level foes.

    Let's look at the top ten people in my bracket. What teams do they possess that allows them to have such high scores?
    #1 #2 #3 #4 #5 #6 #7 #8 #9 #10
Patc -- MX 15 28 55 15 89 28 28 15
Psyl 99 70 -- 18 41 15 18 15 20 --
Iron 99 50 -- 25 48 50 41 45 18 15
Mags 10 -6 17 36 83 46 30 -- 73 -6
Caps -6 35 -6  7 25 19 85 -- 22 67
Thor 85 85 -6 82 55 85 85 85 85 85
Stor 50 50 50 -- -- -- -- 50 43 --
Hawk -6 -- 40 -- -- 40 -- -- 25 --

    None of the top 10 would have much of a chance against a level 359 Daken/Ares team. How the heck could any of these guys scored so well? Are they completely avoiding MMR somehow? Did they just get some extreme benefit from the timing snafu at the start of the competition? Or is the entire top ten of the competition cheating to obtain great scores with mediocre teams?

    I'd love to hear how they are doing it.

    Well, my 3*** dakan node is @150 or so, extrapolate that to the others and my scaling isn't too horrible. I've been using a lvl 60 patch and a base Hawkeye + m.storm or some other fodder character. Patch can run the show pretty easily...especially if you put ppl with low ap moves with him.and wait until after dropping berserker to.use them. Lower lvl ppl.I imagine have an even easier time because thier lvls are naturally lower and the actual % for the boosts are higher @lower lvls (which is a stupid mechanic imo they have had for aaaaages). Those characters all look more than good enough, even for fighting what I am. Patch is pretty ridiculous boosted in this event.

    Plus, yea, you never know when someone just did thier last refresh and therefore will plummet by the end...just like in the season.ranking, someone might be first but end up top 50 because thier score includes 2000 in season and most others.in thier bracket are clean.
  • Unknown
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    gamar wrote:
    Lyrian wrote:
    gamar wrote:
    I have no idea how someone without Patch could possibly be first, but I wouldn't worry about it. Not a single person who's in top 10 right now is going to stay there after people do their T -1 hour refreshes.

    The answer is that for the very casual and/or new players, the scaling is quite low.
    On my other half's causal account, most of the nodes are in the 30s-40 right now (they were at the minimum 25 earlier in the day) Only the two on the top of the tower are above these. "Imposters Assemble" started at 60 and "Time for Answers" started at 75 (88 currently). With 2**s being boosted by 40 levels, these two nodes are quite doable and everything else is outright trivial for any 1* roster.

    Yeah, granted, but between a 1* roster with 0 Patch covers and a 1* roster with 1 Patch cover, there's simply a large hoard more points available to the second guy.

    It doesn't really matter because, being in top ten with only 8 hours to go none of those guys will have the points available to keep that position at the end, but it's really weird to me that someone could reach first even temporarily while having so many points unavailable to them

    If everyone was perfect clearing the event, then the 1*s would be kept off the top of the leaderboard. But, of course, that never happens because of scaling. As the veterans are not perfect clearing (in general), this leaves the door wide open for the 1*s to hit the top of the leaderboard because of rubberbanding. As the two nodes on the top do not require Patch, the 1*s can pick up a ton of points by clearing those two nodes alone along with all of the other trivial ones. Granted, some separation should happen in the end of the event when everyone goes and clears the Essentials that the players without Patch cannot.

    The question really is if there is enough separation that will occur between 1*s who are full clearing all non-essential nodes and the everyone else who is only clearing each node once or twice because of scaling issues.
  • Unknown
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    The rubber banding for this event is insane.
  • Spoit
    Spoit Posts: 3,441 Chairperson of the Boards
    MikeyMan wrote:
    The rubber banding for this event is insane.
    ...ly tame?
  • Unknown
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    Spoit wrote:
    MikeyMan wrote:
    The rubber banding for this event is insane.
    ...ly tame?

    I'm getting flashbacks to when I got knocked out of top 2 in TaT in the final 3 minutes after leading for more than half the event. Patch was buffed there too.

    Really want the red xforce, still don't have one of those only cover in the game I'm missing. My stupid x-force is 5/0/4 with a daily green coming...I guess there's a red after that if I stick around...
  • danae
    danae Posts: 101
    I find it kind of weird that the sub events ended up being useless except for the rewards. In terms of points, it didn't really help those that did well in those subs to retain their lead overall. Now that everyone is grinding the main bracket event, rubberbanding will allow those that did not do well in the sub events to catch up to the leaders. I'm not complaining because I didn't do well in the subs and I thought I wouldn't be able to stay in Top 150 but because of rubberbanding on the main bracket event, I climbed up to #25 at the moment.

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