**** Nick Fury (Director of S.H.I.E.L.D) ****

Unknown

Nothing pisses me off more than when an enemy fury gets a Demolition off. It's pretty much a killer, even to XF. He'd be an ok third in PvE, but the main reason you might want to level him: Sending out TUs to your alliance. Control powers as TUs are awesome, since they don't come with the usual control drawback of low HP. I'd probably level XF and Thor to 270 first, but I wouldn't drop Fury off the list.

Unknown

I've got Goddess and X-Force at 269, and Fury at about 180. All are fully covered. In the past two weeks I've maxed Cage, Loki, and Blade. I think all three of them are more useful for me than having Fury pick up another 89 levels would be. In a pvp where I can use all three characters of my own choice (shield sim pretty much), I would rather have Cage/Loki/Hood as a third to SexGoddess than Fury. He doesn't help speed them up the way Loki/Hood do, and while he offers a better yellow than Goddess does, I'd rather have the 7k damage from Cage plus his protect tiles. His blue is pretty solid even at 180, and might see use in PVE if I'm feeling like changing up teams. So I can't see myself leveling him up much more.

Unknown

I have an 11 cover Nick Fury and I feel no need to level him.

He doesn't really offer anything.

Especially at the price of 430k iso.

vudu3

My 5/5/3 Fury is level 220 and I love him. But I understand that I seem to be in the minority here. He's not as insanely powerful as X-Force or Thor but I feel he still has a place in many PVE teams. Assuming you don't want to run X-Force and Thor on every single PVE node then Fury is definitely worthy of some ISO.

The first reason he's great is because of his color strengths. Yellow/blue/purple tend to be off colors so you'll definitely find several red/green/black teams that pair nicely with him. Really, I find he fits into any team that doesn't have a strong blue. Speaking of which ...

The second reason--and arguably the most important reason--is Demolition. At level 220, Demolition does over 10K damage for 10 blue AP. I don't think anything else has quite as high of a damage/AP ratio. It's extremely useful when you need to take out a single target very quickly. During the Thick as Thieves PVE I used him on the Hood/cMags node to take out Hood quickly--boost +3 blue/purple, make 3 blue matches and Hood's usually dead on the next turn. Hood had around 11,000 health so there was no way for anyone else--including X-Force and Thor--to remove him from play as quickly as Fury could. Occasionally, the trap tiles get put into bad positions and they won't get matched right away but more often than not they go off in a turn or two. Even better is when you can trick the AI into matching 2 or more trap tiles at once--any tile that gets matched will explode in succession and do massive damage. I've had 4 tiles get matched before; the resulting explosions were worth more than 30K damage and killed the entire team in a single blow.

Additionally, Avengers Assemble! is a fun ability that can do really massive damage if you use it right and get a bit lucky with the way the critical tiles are placed.

dkffiv

I've got a 270 Fury X-Force and 4hor. Fury got a lot of use before I maxed my 4hor, now he's used occasionally in PvE.

When LThor is forced on you (like last PvE), he pairs very well with him. On essentials vs. wolverine (where you basically only have 2 characters if your featured is weak), Punisher Fury is a very strong rainbow team. He's also very strong when the opponent's strongest color is yellow when paired with Xforce's Surgical Strike.

Fury is a little slow but his yellow and blue are fantastic and his purple is decent. If you can wait til there's a 4 match on the board to cast demolition you can absolutely destroy the other team. One time I got 2 demolitions off b/c the computer kept avoiding the trap, then I got them to trigger 4 traps at once from a 4 match. All 3 10-20k HP enemies got dropped at the same time.

Lidolas

My Fury is at 5/3/5 because that's the way the covers have fallen and I've got him at 255. He's a lot of fun to play with. Granted, I'm not competing for top spots very often, so my opinion isn't necessarily about who is the best. I play for fun and is my favorite move in the game.

Unknown

Fury's good if you are not comparing him to xforce or thour.

Unknown

He's fun to play with but fun alone doesn't justify the iso you need to spend on him. It's not so much that he's weak, it's that you can only pick 2 guys in PvP and there are definitely 2 guys better than him. His color coverage is also terrible for most PvP format (no green or red), which means you either have no support (The Hood and Loki does not cover red or green in terms of active abilities) or no green/red coverage unless the featured happens to already cover that. He's easier to use in PvE but there are also a lot more cheap teams you can run in PvE due to format.

Dartmaster01

Thanks, all useful advice. Looks like I'll be leveling all 3*s to 100 or 110 instead. Now, time to cash in some tokens.

Unknown

Speaking from the other end of the spectrum, I have no hesitation about attacking 270 XForce/4Thor, but I have learned my lesson and will never take on 270 XForce/Fury again. That combo is AI proof and almost impossible to deny something going off.

evil panda

I did enjoy facing teams of 270 XF, 270 Fury and 365 girly Thor in divine champions...



Not really.

NorthernPolarity

papa07 wrote:

Speaking from the other end of the spectrum, I have no hesitation about attacking 270 XForce/4Thor, but I have learned my lesson and will never take on 270 XForce/Fury again. That combo is AI proof and almost impossible to deny something going off.

Fury's only scary attack is blue, so if you play XF / GT, denying black / green / blue isn't really all that hard since thats what you want to use anyways. Fury's purple/yellow costs 12, and so its rare that they go off. I could see the team being annoying without XF / GT, but I don't think it's anymore annoying than having to punch through 16k HP.

wirius

The only reason why you would want to level him is to continue the game. Otherwise, with a max X-force and Thor, you're done. There's nothing higher to obtain. You beat MPQ.

Unknown

Assuming no boosts are involved (nobody is hard to beat with them) there's plenty of time for Fury to get going but all his abilities have a very wide range of possible results so he's generally not that threatening but if any of his ability connected on the high end of its potential damage (Avenger's Assemble with red/green/purple, a resolved Escape Plan, or a Demolition that connected at full strength) it's going to hurt.

Unknown

NorthernPolarity wrote:

papa07 wrote:

Speaking from the other end of the spectrum, I have no hesitation about attacking 270 XForce/4Thor, but I have learned my lesson and will never take on 270 XForce/Fury again. That combo is AI proof and almost impossible to deny something going off.

Fury's only scary attack is blue, so if you play XF / GT, denying black / green / blue isn't really all that hard since thats what you want to use anyways. Fury's purple/yellow costs 12, and so its rare that they go off. I could see the team being annoying without XF / GT, but I don't think it's anymore annoying than having to punch through 16k HP.

My current endgame is a 135 Hulk/Patch combo. Knowing that the AI cannot pull off Surge-Smite properly makes 4Thor a much better target than Fury. I have never lost to a XF/4Thor combo because of 4Thor - always because the board goes South and XF gets me. I lost many matches to Fury - either Blue or Purple, so I have learned to skip that one.

Unknown

papa07 wrote:

NorthernPolarity wrote:

papa07 wrote:

Speaking from the other end of the spectrum, I have no hesitation about attacking 270 XForce/4Thor, but I have learned my lesson and will never take on 270 XForce/Fury again. That combo is AI proof and almost impossible to deny something going off.

Fury's only scary attack is blue, so if you play XF / GT, denying black / green / blue isn't really all that hard since thats what you want to use anyways. Fury's purple/yellow costs 12, and so its rare that they go off. I could see the team being annoying without XF / GT, but I don't think it's anymore annoying than having to punch through 16k HP.

My current endgame is a 135 Hulk/Patch combo. Knowing that the AI cannot pull off Surge-Smite properly makes 4Thor a much better target than Fury. I have never lost to a XF/4Thor combo because of 4Thor - always because the board goes South and XF gets me. I lost many matches to Fury - either Blue or Purple, so I have learned to skip that one.

I think when people lose to Thor + X Force they mistakenly attribute the loss to Thor. Thor accounts for little threat to a team of any level. The AI cannot use Smite after Power Surge since red comes before blue, so this means they can only do the Smite combo if they had Power Surge ready first, and then you let them match enough to get Smite. Otherwise Smite gets stopped at a 4K nuke which is a decent hit but nothing special (Star Spangled Avenger hits that hard and is recurring). Now of course you can lose if X Force collected red or blue and then you get hit by Smite/Power Surge multiple times, or X Force can easily kill you by himself, or better yet he can kill you and then cascade into a Smite with his massive board shaking abilities. But that should be credited to X Force.

Fury's expected damage is relatively low though, so once you get to the 10K range you can probably survive all but the highest range of his attacks, which the AI doesn't do well. That is, the AI will happily match away their own traps so you won't get hit by all 7, and of course they won't even attempt to protect Escape Plan or setup the ideal cases for Avenger's Assemble. Note that Avenger's Assemble easily does around 10K total damage with red/green/purple active plus the AP it collects, and it's not a particularly hard requirement to fulfill on offense. Usually you can get away with funneling Fury to purple and just count on the Escape Plan tile being in a spot that's easy to match, or funnel them to yellow and count on the AI being the AI, though I remember one time Fury did an Escape Plan on the bottom right corner and let's just say that game went very bad very quickly.

Unknown

Fury is the 4* I'm currently leveling, but he's also the only real one I have covered (XF is done, IW doesn't count). If I had TGT I'd be doing her first, but that doesn't render him useless. I think there's plenty of reason to cultivate a deep roster, and having color coverage options is always nice. If the ultimate end-game is going to be a land of 4* characters, then there's just as much reason to level multiple 4* characters as there was to level multiple 3* characters. And being the 3rd best 4* character (or 4th, if Starlord ends up being competitive) isn't really that bad.

MarvelMan

Moon 17 wrote:

And being the 3rd best 4* character (or 4th, if Starlord ends up being competitive) isn't really that bad.

With the current 2+1 format where your defense is last team won with, yes, third is bad. Even where you get to pick your own third, go with a support/annoyance char (Hood/Loki) and youre better off. It means that for most people he is closer to Beast usefulness than XF/Thoress.

But if youre drowning in ISO/HP then sure, do it.

NorthernPolarity

Moon 17 wrote:

Fury is the 4* I'm currently leveling, but he's also the only real one I have covered (XF is done, IW doesn't count). If I had TGT I'd be doing her first, but that doesn't render him useless. I think there's plenty of reason to cultivate a deep roster, and having color coverage options is always nice. If the ultimate end-game is going to be a land of 4* characters, then there's just as much reason to level multiple 4* characters as there was to level multiple 3* characters. And being the 3rd best 4* character (or 4th, if Starlord ends up being competitive) isn't really that bad.

Color coverage options would be nice, but X-Force / LadyThor are so much better than Fury that it doesn't even matter if the featured character conflicts directly with either one: they'd still be better than running Fury in that tournament.

Cultivating a deep 3* roster is rewarding because you know that the character is going to be featured in PvP / PvE. 4*s on the other hand, never get featured outside of their release tournament, and in random things like children of the atom. Given that it's 2.5x the iso to max a 4* compared to a 3*, there is no compelling reason right now to max a 4* besides XF / Ladythor unless you wanted to play them on a B team in PvE.

dkffiv

NorthernPolarity wrote:

Moon 17 wrote:

Fury is the 4* I'm currently leveling, but he's also the only real one I have covered (XF is done, IW doesn't count). If I had TGT I'd be doing her first, but that doesn't render him useless. I think there's plenty of reason to cultivate a deep roster, and having color coverage options is always nice. If the ultimate end-game is going to be a land of 4* characters, then there's just as much reason to level multiple 4* characters as there was to level multiple 3* characters. And being the 3rd best 4* character (or 4th, if Starlord ends up being competitive) isn't really that bad.

Color coverage options would be nice, but X-Force / LadyThor are so much better than Fury that it doesn't even matter if the featured character conflicts directly with either one: they'd still be better than running Fury in that tournament.

Cultivating a deep 3* roster is rewarding because you know that the character is going to be featured in PvP / PvE. 4*s on the other hand, never get featured outside of their release tournament, and in random things like children of the atom. Given that it's 2.5x the iso to max a 4* compared to a 3*, there is no compelling reason right now to max a 4* besides XF / Ladythor unless you wanted to play them on a B team in PvE.

If you don't have a 4hor, AP boosted Fury may be your best option for trying to hit 1k to gain Thor covers. CMags is really good but I think Fury does a better job dealing with 4hor (I used to alternate between those two before I had 4hor, and back then there weren't many people with her maxed). I hate using the Hood with Xforce because if you don't have a strong featured your color coverage sucks and a board with no green/black can take forever to win.