Boss Rush Event: Info & Rewards *Updated

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  • Nightglider1
    Nightglider1 Posts: 707 Critical Contributor
    Vhailorx wrote:
    This sort of hard to explain reasoning is not a new phenomenon in MPQ. Remember that anniversary 2 tokens were actively worse than contemporary heroic tokens before player uproar caused a mid-anniversary odds revision.

    I'll give them this, the anniversary Vault was way better than the tokens last year. Lots of star.pngstar.pngstar.pngstar.png covers for me. icon_e_smile.gif

    The vault and the double ISO are the only things that even approach the definition of "saving grace."
  • Pope Belligerent
    Pope Belligerent Posts: 94 Match Maker
    Chipster22 wrote:
    simonsez wrote:
    Chipster22 wrote:
    even some 3* players on round 6.
    You say that as if you don't understand that scaling results in no advantage to better rosters in this event.

    Actually, I was surprised that 3* players were complaining even though they reached level 6 only half way through the event. Should a level 3* player even expect to complete a boss event?

    I agree, 4* and 5* players seldom seem to get an advantage from upgrading their rosters.

    Speaking as someone who has only recently started the 3* transition with any seriousness (in the past week I got up to 7 champed 3*, 4* roster is mostly 1 or 2-cover, nobody above 5 covers), I completely understand that you guys up in 5* land are getting the worst of this, but we're getting pretty wrecked too. I have all the characters I'd need for winfinite, but none of them are fully covered, or even close. I have very limited options too, given who's boosted - I've basically had to play 3Cyc/Doom/3Hulk, because I don't have anything else boosted enough to even make a dent past the third round.

    tl;dr: Scaling-wise, we might have it easier down here in 3* land, but a lot of us have underdeveloped rosters and are getting our kitties kicked. I am pretty clearly going to flame out at round 5.
  • an1979
    an1979 Posts: 463 Mover and Shaker
    an1979 wrote:
    I went into tryhard mode - just to see how sick later rounds are (and maybe grab that yellow)

    However not only is this event TiNyKiTTy up! but as always this game stays buggy as hell!
    (Of course making banners slowing down the game takes priority over fixing crashes and testing events... I bet those last 2 days were spent hard on new ones!)

    Using Hulkfinite.

    I got 30.000 (or maybe even 15.000) in round 7 for at least 3 times instead of 45.000
    Points for one (or two) boss were not counted.
    It seems that if you manage to make "no moves given to boss" you might get a fat NOTHING!

    Before boss: 73.739
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    All 3 bosses killed +45.000
    As it is counting down it should be: 73.739 - 45.000 = 28.739
    However only 30.000 is deducted: 73.739 - 30.000 = 43.739
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    After boss ("outside): 43.739 where it should be 28.739
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    In the end I had to do about 4 more clears in round 7!

    It seems you have to allow (both 2nd and 3rd) boss maybe one move near the end when you have ~30AP greentile.png to immediately clean after him?


    I have to stand corrected - givinng a boss one round does not secure your points in this buggy TinyKiTTy.
    You still get NOTHING from some bosses.

    Round 8

    Before boss: 384.607
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    All 3 bosses killed +90.000
    As it is counting down it should be:
    384.607 - 90.000 = 294.607
    However this time only 60.000 is deducted:
    384.607 - 60.000 = 324.607
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    After boss ("outside): 324.607 where it should be 294.607
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  • Chipster22
    Chipster22 Posts: 299 Mover and Shaker
    Esheris wrote:
    Chipster22 wrote:
    simonsez wrote:
    Chipster22 wrote:
    even some 3* players on round 6.
    You say that as if you don't understand that scaling results in no advantage to better rosters in this event.

    Actually, I was surprised that 3* players were complaining even though they reached level 6 only half way through the event. Should a level 3* player even expect to complete a boss event?

    I agree, 4* and 5* players seldom seem to get an advantage from upgrading their rosters.

    For an anniversary (or any event really), should any player be locked out? What kind of game company alienates their player base like that? Everyone should be able to compete and have fun, so their game can grow in the process.

    Not being able to complete (win) an event does not equal being locked out of an event.

    Would it be wrong for 1* players to be able to reach a certain point in an event, 2*s a little further, 3*s further yet, etc.?

    Then the next time the event is run, the player would have the satisfaction of having an improved roster and reaching a higher goal.

    At least for some of the events.
  • Pylgrim
    Pylgrim Posts: 2,332 Chairperson of the Boards
    I just noticed something: I'm on round 7 and I'm only a 3rd of the way through the progression ladder. Seriously, after sweat and blood getting here, I'm staring at a /25/ HP reward next. I calculate that when (if) I get to end of round 7, I'll be at the halfway point. That means that they "designed" the progression ladder so you'd only get the better half of it by plowing through the full round 8! That's flabbergasting, even for an event already riddled with baffling flaws.
  • Ebolamonkey84
    Ebolamonkey84 Posts: 509 Critical Contributor
    Pylgrim wrote:
    I just noticed something: I'm on round 7 and I'm only a 3rd of the way through the progression ladder. Seriously, after sweat and blood getting here, I'm staring at a /25/ HP reward next. I calculate that when (if) I get to end of round 7, I'll be at the halfway point. That means that they "designed" the progression ladder so you'd only get the better half of it by plowing through the full round 8! That's flabbergasting, even for an event already riddled with baffling flaws.

    Total points if you beat round 8 is 1.4 million. The boss bar is 680,000, so it is roughly half like you said.
  • guib
    guib Posts: 83 Match Maker
    "David wrote:
    Moore"]*Update: 1:25 PM 10/14/16

    Greetings, all.

    The dev team wanted to let everyone know they have been reading your feedback and taking it into consideration. Here's word from Anthony at Demiurge:
      "Hey everyone, We're trying a bunch of new stuff with the initial run of Boss Rush and we appreciate hearing your thoughts. We'll look at our data to see how people did and combine that with the feedback to help improve future runs of the event. Thanks for playing the event, and keep the feedback coming!"

    so, obviously
    after Last Year Anniversary theme which was : " You're supposed to lose "
    the new theme this year is : " We're supposed to care, lol ? "

    awesome... can't wait for next year icon_e_wink.gif
  • Vhailorx
    Vhailorx Posts: 6,085 Chairperson of the Boards
    guib wrote:

    so, obviously
    after Last Year Anniversary theme which was : " You're supposed to lose "
    the new theme this year is : " We're supposed to care, lol ? "

    awesome... can't wait for next year icon_e_wink.gif

    "Just shut the **** up and give us your money already!" icon_e_smile.gif

    But at the risk of breaking the negativity: are the sub nodes scaling a little bit better than in prior boss events? My nodes were only level 230 during this past reset. I don't remember them being that low late on Saturday in prior events. Is my memory faulty, or has the scaling actually be a smoother curve for this event (and totally overshadowed by the brutally difficult boss events)
  • fmftint
    fmftint Posts: 3,653 Chairperson of the Boards
    Vhailorx wrote:
    are the sub nodes scaling a little bit better than in prior boss events? My nodes were only level 230 during this past reset. I don't remember them being that low late on Saturday in prior events. Is my memory faulty, or has the scaling actually be a smoother curve for this event (and totally overshadowed by the brutally difficult boss events)
    These are also scaled to your roster, mine were a "EASY" 323 at last reset
  • Vhailorx
    Vhailorx Posts: 6,085 Chairperson of the Boards
    fmftint wrote:
    Vhailorx wrote:
    are the sub nodes scaling a little bit better than in prior boss events? My nodes were only level 230 during this past reset. I don't remember them being that low late on Saturday in prior events. Is my memory faulty, or has the scaling actually be a smoother curve for this event (and totally overshadowed by the brutally difficult boss events)
    These are also scaled to your roster, mine were a "EASY" 323 at last reset

    Well, scaled or not, they have been easier to handle later into the event that i expected. Is this true for 3* players? What about 5* rosters?
  • RoboDuck
    RoboDuck Posts: 142 Tile Toppler
    Vhailorx wrote:
    guib wrote:

    so, obviously
    after Last Year Anniversary theme which was : " You're supposed to lose "
    the new theme this year is : " We're supposed to care, lol ? "

    awesome... can't wait for next year icon_e_wink.gif

    "Just shut the tinykitty up and give us your money already!" icon_e_smile.gif

    But at the risk of breaking the negativity: are the sub nodes scaling a little bit better than in prior boss events? My nodes were only level 230 during this past reset. I don't remember them being that low late on Saturday in prior events. Is my memory faulty, or has the scaling actually be a smoother curve for this event (and totally overshadowed by the brutally difficult boss events)

    Its slightly better than the last event. Not much though. Its the next reset where they became unplayable for me last event, so we'll see if that changes.
  • guib
    guib Posts: 83 Match Maker
    RoboDuck wrote:
    Vhailorx wrote:
    guib wrote:

    so, obviously
    after Last Year Anniversary theme which was : " You're supposed to lose "
    the new theme this year is : " We're supposed to care, lol ? "

    awesome... can't wait for next year icon_e_wink.gif

    "Just shut the tinykitty up and give us your money already!" icon_e_smile.gif

    But at the risk of breaking the negativity: are the sub nodes scaling a little bit better than in prior boss events? My nodes were only level 230 during this past reset. I don't remember them being that low late on Saturday in prior events. Is my memory faulty, or has the scaling actually be a smoother curve for this event (and totally overshadowed by the brutally difficult boss events)

    Its slightly better than the last event. Not much though. Its the next reset where they became unplayable for me last event, so we'll see if that changes.


    and there is still the bug that waves subnodes are again at the same high levels as the others
    I was relieved to see that in first rounds, it took into account yhat since waves had 6 ennemies instead of 3, the lvls were adapted,
    but its no longer the case since a few refreshes icon_e_sad.gif
  • killerkoala
    killerkoala Posts: 1,185 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited October 2016
    made it to rd 8 not going further have to save health packs for final pvp and shield sim. this boss rush event was kind of a stinker.
  • Astroy
    Astroy Posts: 8 Just Dropped In
    I'll just say this. I'm tired of having my **** handed to me 6 times every 8hrs.

    There is a difference between challenging and totally impossible to play.

    Giving up on boss rush. Pity that an exciting anniversary ending in such a frustrating manner.
  • killerkoala
    killerkoala Posts: 1,185 Chairperson of the Boards
    Just a reminder "Never ever run this event ever again."


    1) unless scaling is fixed.
    2) health of all 3 bosses = points given per completion.

    Next Anniversary make it players version of "fun" not Dev's version of "challenging". Anniversaries are about being happy we are together, not dreading seeing one another.
  • PuceMoose
    PuceMoose Posts: 1,445 Chairperson of the Boards
    I had a lot of fun with rounds one and two - the side enemy pins were nice and low, and the boss was reasonable. Then, round three happened. Things went crazy.
    My boss level went from 115 to 285, and the side enemy pins went from 35 to 90 (still easy, but I wasn't expecting the huge jump). The massive spike meant bad times for my champed 3-stars on the main boss (I have no four-star over 230, and no 5-stars with more than 3 covers). I decided to quit when I realized I was making deals with myself - "Okay, give the boss round one more try, and then you can play Salt & Sanctuary for a half hour to actually have some gaming fun." That's ridiculous, so I just stopped playing it.
  • MunitionsFrenzy
    MunitionsFrenzy Posts: 102 Tile Toppler
    I can't comment on the absurdly high-level bosses the heavy-paying players are experiencing, but as someone who's in the process of filling out a 3* roster, this event's difficulty has been almost perfect. It's been great fun to tackle each fight with a slightly different strategy rather than just going into the fight with a cookie-cutter team that works on everyone.

    Except Phoenix. She's entirely RNG and has twice killed my entire team as soon as she appeared. What the ****.

    Fix Phoenix and I'll be quite happy with this Boss Rush. Everyone else is very interesting to fight.

    And I have multiple 5* covers cuz I opened them early on and screwed up my scaling, so it's not like I'm fighting bosses that are properly set to a 3* roster's level, either.
  • Vhailorx
    Vhailorx Posts: 6,085 Chairperson of the Boards
    I can't comment on the absurdly high-level bosses the heavy-paying players are experiencing, but as someone who's in the process of filling out a 3* roster, this event's difficulty has been almost perfect. It's been great fun to tackle each fight with a slightly different strategy rather than just going into the fight with a cookie-cutter team that works on everyone.

    Except Phoenix. She's entirely RNG and has twice killed my entire team as soon as she appeared. What the tinykitty.

    Fix Phoenix and I'll be quite happy with this Boss Rush. Everyone else is very interesting to fight.

    And I have multiple 5* covers cuz I opened them early on and screwed up my scaling, so it's not like I'm fighting bosses that are properly set to a 3* roster's level, either.

    Can you give some more details about your scaling? What roubd are you in, and what level are your bosses?

    I have a 4* roster, max levels in the 290s (both xfw and kp are champed so i have some 370+s for this event). My bosses in round 7 are about level 420 and start with around 50k health each.
  • sinnerjfl
    sinnerjfl Posts: 1,276 Chairperson of the Boards
    I can't comment on the absurdly high-level bosses the heavy-paying players are experiencing, but as someone who's in the process of filling out a 3* roster, this event's difficulty has been almost perfect. It's been great fun to tackle each fight with a slightly different strategy rather than just going into the fight with a cookie-cutter team that works on everyone.

    Except Phoenix. She's entirely RNG and has twice killed my entire team as soon as she appeared. What the tinykitty.

    Banner is as deadly once he gets going and he has higher match damage. He does a ton of 4-match & 5-matches, for 3k or so each, then he uses his AOE and youre dead.
  • Kaazz
    Kaazz Posts: 230 Tile Toppler
    Vhailorx wrote:
    Well, scaled or not, they have been easier to handle later into the event that i expected. Is this true for 3* players? What about 5* rosters?

    Uh, no. My roster has no one over lvl 170 - this is champed 3 stars and a few 4 stars. My boosted chars for this event are in the 250 range. In round 5 I am facing three bosses in a row at lvl 350+. I can try AP suppression, but those chars are not boosted, so die too quickly. I made it past OML one time (got lucky) and Phoenix then killed me immediately. I never even got to make a move against her. All other attempts have me dying against OML. I've tried using healers, but again, these are not my boosted chars, so at lvl 170 OML can basically take them down in one attack. This is round FIVE. No way in tinykitty will I be able to even make a dent in the first boss in th next round (if I make it there.)

    I *want* to play this event, but the way it's structured I simply CANNOT. Who designs a game like this?!! Srsly, why design an event that people can't play?!? It boggles the mind....

    I'm frustrated beyond all get out because, in general, I LIKE this game, and want to play it. But this event PREVENTS me from playing. icon_e_sad.gif
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