The Locke'n Lounge *Alliance Chat*

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Keep in mind that lightning rounds will NOT be counted for season progression/points, so feel free to tank in those all day long. I have heard they are less effective to tank in, but its where I do most of my tanking and has worked well for me so far.


Are we even in the running for a Nick Fury? Cause he looks pretty bad ****

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kermitk50 wrote:

Are we even in the running for a Nick Fury? Cause he looks pretty bad ****

We should be. As long as most everyone participates, we're a top 100 Alliance.

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I know it's my overactive imagination, but I swear there are times this game is determined to make me lose. It generally happens when I have been on a roll in playing and not having to use health packs. Using cStorm and mnMags, I will get 1 pink tile away from triggering Mag's ability and no pink tiles drop. I just played a game in GSBW PvP against a low level team. They had Ragnarok on their team. He did his move to destroy the middle 2 columns and it started a cascade that last forever. They got to trigger special move after special move. Or the game I am currently in, they got a cascade and all I have left is 3 moves. They are all green matchs and Daken is looking right at me.

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ZenBrillig wrote:

kermitk50 wrote:

Are we even in the running for a Nick Fury? Cause he looks pretty bad ****

We should be. As long as most everyone participates, we're a top 100 Alliance.

Fantastic! I will be focusing on PVP all month then. Already have over 300 points logged on day 1, gotta keep it up as long as I can! I would love that 5000 point progression as well...

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Noticed there are quite a few people not doing anything related to the season tournament. I know we arent a hard core alliance, but can we at least all try to work on trying to get the Fury cover together? It is the kind of thing that needs everyone to give a shot at every PVP, at least to the point where people should be doing them anyway and is easy to obtain (300 for the token progression). I know it will hurt everyone's MMR, but thats what we can use lightning rounds for - tanking!

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Damn, I finally hit that magic time in the 2->3* transition where I cant keep up with leveling all my 3*s to cover cap! Its a blessing and a curse I suppose. I now have several 3* characters I could make a push to level more (focused) or continue with my spreading the ISO around that I love doing (in case of events and stuff). I try to keep all my covers at at least level 30 or 40 before I start really focusing in on people - I have noticed that having simply 20-30 extra levels on a required character in PVP really does keep some of the retaliations and attacks away.

So I ask you guys, what should I do? Should I focus on a couple people? Should I just pour ISO into whoeever is currently buffed? Or should I just spread everything around evenly and try to bring peopel up to a certain level at least when possible.


My current biggest 3*s are Hulk at 70 (cap 77), Hood 57 (cap around mid 60s), LazyCap 52 (cap around mid 70s), and punisher around 48 (cap around mid 70s). I also have a patch at 30 that could be brought to the mid 40s.

I know that even if I brought any of these people to cover cap right now it wouldnt make a huge difference, as they still wouldnt be better than my maxed 2* Thor, but I want to be prepared when I DO get the covers to have a decent guy at a useable level as soon as possible, plus be able to do well in any events that pop up that require someone.


Side note - I have no self control to save my ISO

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I just went through this exact delima. I can win almost any match with max mnMag and max cStorm, reguarless of the 3rd person. But I am getting detroyed on defense.

I just pushed my first 3* over level 85(cap - now level 92). He's the only 3* that I am max covered for, with hulk right behind needing 2-3 more. My thought process is that I need to level higher in the events for ISO/HP/Covers/Season/etc. And while I would like to level everyone up equally, I have a major need for some firepower to do so.

So i have decided to level these guys as much as I can right now(during an event where I can't level the featured character). I don't know what I'll do yet when I have a featured character that I can level.

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Sounds like im only a little bit behind you - my most covered 3* is Hulk at 5/0/4. Seriously, no reds ever.


As another option, I still have not max leveled some of my 2*s. Maybe I should do that, since most of them are max covered? My Thor is 85 and Daken is 69, but my Storm is only 71 (max covered), Ares is only 61 (I think max covered), Mags is 50 or so (1 red needed), and OBW is 69 (cover capped - I am still missing 2 black covers and have been forever)

I will definitely max out OBW as soon as I can, since even at 69 she is used in every single team. What about the others?

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kermitk50 wrote:

Sounds like im only a little bit behind you - my most covered 3* is Hulk at 5/0/4. Seriously, no reds ever.


As another option, I still have not max leveled some of my 2*s. Maybe I should do that, since most of them are max covered? My Thor is 85 and Daken is 69, but my Storm is only 71 (max covered), Ares is only 61 (I think max covered), Mags is 50 or so (1 red needed), and OBW is 69 (cover capped - I am still missing 2 black covers and have been forever)

I will definitely max out OBW as soon as I can, since even at 69 she is used in every single team. What about the others?

I have thor mnmags wolvie and cstorm maxed in the 2*. Wolvie has saved me in many matches. Best 2* red ability imo. With mn mags right behind it.

Ive ridden the mnmags/cstorm combo for a while with mags feeding storms blue. Works up to a point, but then you hit a wall(~700 points you become a target). The two are good enough to get you a top 50 placement tho in every event. Just be ready to get hit a bit as the event winds down.

I can max level ares moonstone daken right now, but they need respecing. 2* cap is one short, but i will most likely not bother with him since i have the 3* cap cover maxed.

Im several covers short with obw. Ive yet to use her on my teams. But may become my 3rd with some 3*s for a bit.

All would require iso, that id rather push towards leveling the 3*s right now. So kinda in limbo.

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kermitk50 wrote:

Sounds like im only a little bit behind you - my most covered 3* is Hulk at 5/0/4. Seriously, no reds ever.


As another option, I still have not max leveled some of my 2*s. Maybe I should do that, since most of them are max covered? My Thor is 85 and Daken is 69, but my Storm is only 71 (max covered), Ares is only 61 (I think max covered), Mags is 50 or so (1 red needed), and OBW is 69 (cover capped - I am still missing 2 black covers and have been forever)

I will definitely max out OBW as soon as I can, since even at 69 she is used in every single team. What about the others?

I'm roughly where you are at. I'm pouring ISO into 3* characters any time I can to bring them a long and get them to the point where they can be usable, and make them as good as they can be should they be buffed for some event or another. I'd recommend getting a couple 2* maxed (about 3 or 4), then invest in 3*. If they stall, go back to the 2* and bring them along.

Defintiely recommend leveling OBW, she's just to dang useful not to. IF you use the MNMags/CStorm Team, I'd stick with that with Thor already built to throw in on defense when needed. Maybe Ares as a sub for when Thor needs a nap?

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Agreed with the whole CStorm and mnMags needing a thor or ares on the team. With my standard team (Thor/OWB/required or Daken) I am able to take out the storm/mags teams pretty easily, as storm has such low HP i can kill her before anything goes off, and mags becomes a sitting duck without anyone to feed. Im sure they run well together on offence, but on defense they are easy to beat.

The reason I try to run thor/obw/daken is for the combination of offense and defense. On offense, daken is great, providing lots of strike tiles that work well with damn near everything plus hp regen, thor provides a nice hp buffer to allow daken to heal up after taking a big hit, and obw provides healing to the three of them to top off at the end of fights. I leave most fights at full HP, even if its a tough match. And I dont get hit much, as daken is one of the annoying and unpredictable people to play against, plus OBW is a huge threat with espionage and aggressive recon. If the other player doesnt focus on OBW first, they have a pretty good chance of losing. I dont know how many times I have played against that same team and had them get a mediocre cascade that leads to several un-destroyable strike tiles, an unexpected espionage to grab much needed AP, and had the following turn lost 3 AP of each color, allowing their Thor to blast me with his yellow and then green, taking out half my team. It doesn't take a huge cascade and a to of luck to happen - sometimes it just randomly happens and is horrible frustrating. Especially with Thor's yellow, which in the right situation and with a significant number of daken strike tiles can take out full HP heroes without too much trouble. So I generally stay away from those teams now, and I have noticed that very few people in the 2* transition area bother me. Hell, I woke up this morning to winning 3 defensive battles last night with no losses for an extra 60 points! My only loss was to someone running 3x141s

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I'm in a similar place with the 2*>3* transition, and I tend to spend the majority of my ISO on buffed characters, but for the most bang for your buck, I think levelling Hulk is a really good option, especially if you're having trouble with defence. People really don't like fighting hulk since he has a ton of HP and Anger can create massive amounts of green for big chains. You can use your offensive team for most of the tourney, and then switch to a team with him and someone who has a green that costs more than his (Cstorm is ok, but Thor is better because he's harder to target down.) This puts the enemy team in the awkward position of wanting to kill Hulk, but not wanting to damage him. Even if they take out Thor first, Hulk should still be able to clap a few times which can do a fair amount of damage and cause chains.

So basically, he'll fix a hole in your team now while also ramping up to a 3* viable character. Also, kermit, not having the red covers may actually be a blessing. His red is really awkward. . .

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Very good point, Favabear. Never really thought about putting hulk in already, but it would do quite a bit to stave off people. Especially once I hit 3k, I will get my 5th and final black hulk cover, which will make anger REALLY dangerous. Might have to start doing that in the shield simulator that is up, since I am approaching 1k points already and im sure I will become a target there soon - its just soooooooo easy to climb on that ladder! In that case I think I would run Hulk/Thor/Daken as my defensive team. That puts them in a REALLY tough place of who to target first.

Target Daken first and you have to deal with his auto-heal, which is pretty good at max level (~150 a turn). It basically negates most tile damage done to him. This would mean that even with the lowest HP, you pretty much have to build up and use skills in order to take him out in one shot. So targeting him first is a bad idea since your tile damage would go to waste while you build up AP. Plus with him and Hulk on the team together it makes it so the opponent wont do any AOE skills, as it will trigger Hulks anger which will trigger Daken to make strike tiles...cause a LOT of issues.

Target Hulk first and...well, thats a bad idea. If he angers, it triggers Daken's strike tiles and makes for a bad day for the opponent. Plus his HP is stupidly high, giving plenty of time to build AP for thor and his abilities.

Target Thor first - well, get ready for a slog with his high HP. I think this is what you will have to do to deal with the team, at least while you build AP. The tile damage doesnt go to waste, but you also arent going to kill him from tile damage alone. So once you DO get enough AP to use skills, do you finish off Thor or one shot daken? If you finish off thor, you run into the same issue with Daken as before. If you one shot daken, you still have to deal with the most powerful skills on my team - Thor's yellow and green, which at this point he should have enough AP to use at least once.

And with Hulk and Daken together on a team, you have to deal with two people who basically have to be one-shot to deal with properly. That requires them to save a LOT of AP without killing or damage anyone too much to trigger skills. But how do you even keep me from gaining my most dangerous color - green? I generate it with Hulk, It triggers passives no matter WHO grabs it with Daken, and Thor uses it in his most powerful skill. Damns if you do, damned if you dont.



I like it. Alright - Hulk to cover cap it is!

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u should first max atleast 2 heros umbrus..
ur widow and some else, wolv ares w/e.. u have many covers and nothing done.
hulk is great to save hp and should maxed if u have the covers.
but u dont have them and 3*** are only better/useable with a few exceptions, over lvl100..
kermit, combo sounds fine if u have nothing else and finished daken.
i would not use it, bc ur wasting iso that u could spent otherwise.

lastly,.. we still have "dead meat" and i want to know whats the matter with it.
is he in vacation? or sick? we cant get fury if it stays that way.
and besides him, some guys need to steep it up too.

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I haven't heard from him. He was active in The Hunt so I had thought that he had been focusing his attention on that, but I haven't seen any activity from him since it ended. I'm putting him on probation, so I'm hoping to hear from him in the next day or two what's up. And as far as the other activity goes, I know I'm one of the people who needs to output more. I haven't touched Shield training much yet, since it's going to be open for so long, so that's part of it.

As for the roster stuff, you're certainly not wrong. I had been avoiding pumping ISO into those 2 since it costs so much at that level, and I figured I could do better by pumping up buffed heroes . I've also been doing ok in PVP with some light tanking here and there, and prior to now my restriction has been more a matter of time than levels. But now that tanking is more or less dead, it's going to get harder and I'll be needing the max level characters. I think one other issue I've been running into is that because I'm fighting lower level teams, they tend to have lower point values as well so I'm getting a fairly small amount of rank points per game. Simulator should be a nice influx of ISO, so I think I'm going to sink it into Widow and Ares over wolv, since I like him better and he's buffed.

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I just sunk a bunch of ISO into Punisher since his PVP event is coming up and he is already a pretty high and well covered 3* for me, especially after I get my falcon rewards he will be 1/4/4 and right around the early level 60s. Ive never been a huge fan of him - seems kind of boring - but he is used so much I guess I might as well bring him up.

I have been trying to keep up with points. I have stayed in the top 50% for the season. I was higher (5th or so) but I dropped down to around 9th with the falcon event due to time constraints. I should pop back up this weekend, especially with my punisher and who I am normally faced up against. I was completely unable to play lightning rounds to tank this week, so that I feel is going to hurt me a lot. Anyone know if purposefully losing a match you start while you have 0 points actually helps lower MMR without losing points?

Also took an early lead in the new PVE - I think I was 3rd last night in the alliance, but it helps that I actually have a falcon cover (lucky pull from falcon event token). That will probably drop later int he event, but I should be able to stay top 50% there as well.

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Date Finished -- Event Name -- Placement -- ISO HP + Other
March 23, 2014 -- The Simulator Round 1 Regular -- Top 25 -- 2000 ISO / 25 HP
March 23, 2014 -- The Simulator Round 1 Hard -- Top 25 -- 2000 ISO / 25 HP
March 26, 2014 -- The Simulator Round 2 Regular -- Top 25 -- 2000 ISO / 25 HP
March 26, 2014 -- The Simulator Round 2 Hard -- Top 50 -- 2000 ISO /
March 26, 2014 -- Lone Star Skirmish -- Top 50 -- 2000 ISO / 100 HP + The Hood Yellow Cover
March 28, 2014 -- The Simulator Round 3 Regular -- Top 50 -- 2000 ISO /
March 28, 2014 -- The Simulator Round 3 Hard -- Top 50 -- 2000 ISO /
March 28, 2014 -- Lord of Thunder -- Top 50 -- 2000 ISO / 100 HP + Patch Wolverine yellow cover
March 30, 2014 -- Unholy outlaw -- Top 50 -- 2000 ISO / 100 HP + Black Panther yellow cover
March 31, 2014 -- The Simulator Round 4 Regular -- Top 50 -- 2000 ISO /
March 31, 2014 -- The Simulator Round 4 Hard -- Top 100 -- 1500 ISO /
March 31, 2014 -- Simulator Basics -- Top 50 -- 1500 ISO / 25 HP + Lazy Cap blue cover
April 2, 2014 -- Fearless Defenders -- Top 100 -- 2000 ISO / 50 HP + Hulk black cover
April 4, 2014 -- Best in the World -- Top 100 -- 2000 ISO / 50 HP + lazy cap yellow cover
April 6, 2014 -- First Avenger -- Top 100 -- 2000 ISO / 50 HP + Black Widow Grey Suit Purple Cover
April 7, 2014 -- Unstable Iso-8 -- Top 100 -- 1500 ISO / + classic human torch red cover
April 9, 2014 -- Hollowpoint Kiss event -- Top 250 -- 1500 ISO / 50 HP
April 11, 2014 -- Hotshot -- Top 100 -- 2000 ISO / 50 HP + ragnarok cover
April 13, 2014 -- Bad is Good -- Top 50 -- 2000 ISO / 100 HP + Lazy Cap Blue
April 13, 2014 -- Heroic Venom Round 1 Normal -- Top 250 -- 1500 ISO / 50 HP
April 13, 2014 -- Heroic Venom Round 1 Hard -- Top 50 -- 2000 ISO / 100 HP + Lazy Cap Blue
April 16, 2014 -- First Avenger -- Top 100 -- 2000 ISO / 50 HP + hulk black cover
April 17, 2014 -- Heroic Venom Round 2 Normal -- Top 250 -- 1500 ISO / 50 HP
April 17, 2014 -- Heroic Venom Round 2 Hard -- Top 50 -- 2000 ISO / 100 HP + Lazy Cap Blue
April 18, 2014 -- Smash Hit -- Top 100 -- 2000 ISO / 50 HP + Torch green
April 19, 2014 -- Hunt Round 1 -- Top 250 -- 70 ISO / + Heroic Token
April 20, 2014 -- Hunt Round 2 -- Top 250 -- 70 ISO / + Heroic Token
April 20, 2014 -- Hunt Round 3 -- Top 250 -- 70 ISO / + Heroic Token
April 20, 2014 -- Hotshot -- Top 100 -- 2000 ISO / 50 HP + Punisher Green
April 22, 2014 -- Hunt Round 4 -- Top 100 -- 100 ISO / + Heroic Token
April 22, 2014 -- Hunt Round 5 -- Top 50 -- 100 ISO / + Assault Token
April 23, 2014 -- Hunt Round 6 -- Top 50 -- 100 ISO / + Assault Token
April 23, 2014 -- Army of One -- Top 100 -- 2000 ISO / 50 HP + Black Widow Grey Suit Purple Cover
April 24, 2014 -- Hunt Round 7 -- Top 50 -- 100 ISO / + Assault Token
April 25, 2014 -- Hunt Round 8 -- Top 250 -- 70 ISO / + Heroic Token
April 25, 2014 -- Hollowpoint Kiss event -- Top 250 -- 1500 ISO / 50 HP
April 26, 2014 -- Hunt Round 9 -- Top 100 -- 100 ISO / + Heroic Token
April 26, 2014 -- Hunt Round 10 -- Top 100 -- 100 ISO / + Heroic Token
April 27, 2014 -- Hunt Round 11 -- Top 100 -- 100 ISO / + Heroic Token
April 27, 2014 -- Doctor's Orders -- Top 100 -- 2000 ISO / 50 HP + cMagnet Purple Cover
April 27, 2014 -- Hunt Round 12 -- Top 250 -- 70 ISO / + Heroic Token
April 27, 2014 -- The Hunt for the falcon -- Top 250 -- 1500 ISO / 50 HP
April 30, 2014 -- Top Gun(Falcon) -- Top 100 -- 2000 ISO / 50 HP + Pusisher Red Cover


Total ISO: 59050
Total HP: 1450
# of covers: 30

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Wow, is this a list you have been keeping track of, or did they open up a new feature to look at past rewards? Im at work and play on steam, so no access right now

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Been keeping up with it manually. I had it on page one in a spoiler tag. Just ported it over to an excel file for easier updating and decided to post an update for all to see.

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