Rootbreaker wrote: Hmm, I haven't run into this yet. Let's see what the decks I'm running in NoP have in them that could deal with it... Kiora + Garruk - The Great Aurora Koth - Void Winnower removes defensive abilities Sarkhan - Fleshbag Maruader can kill hexproof creatures Gideon - Veteran Warleader can block - this deck is pretty dead to carriage + rogue's passage + defender ability. Maybe I should throw a winnower or rogue's passage or something in there.
span_argoman wrote: Rootbreaker wrote: Hmm, I haven't run into this yet. Let's see what the decks I'm running in NoP have in them that could deal with it... Kiora + Garruk - The Great Aurora Koth - Void Winnower removes defensive abilities Sarkhan - Fleshbag Maruader can kill hexproof creatures Gideon - Veteran Warleader can block - this deck is pretty dead to carriage + rogue's passage + defender ability. Maybe I should throw a winnower or rogue's passage or something in there. Just a note, Void Winnower doesn't work against True-Faith Censer as Runaway Carriage will regain Vigilance (if it works the same way as Knightly Valor) after the swap-around.
Mcjordan wrote: Rootbreaker wrote: Hmm, I haven't run into this yet. Let's see what the decks I'm running in NoP have in them that could deal with it... Kiora + Garruk - The Great Aurora Koth - Void Winnower removes defensive abilities Sarkhan - Fleshbag Maruader can kill hexproof creatures Gideon - Veteran Warleader can block - this deck is pretty dead to carriage + rogue's passage + defender ability. Maybe I should throw a winnower or rogue's passage or something in there. Got it, acquire all rares and mythics across all planeswalkers so I can play around a colorless uncommon. I see where you're coming from, there are ways to play around some of the combos. I don't think it should be nerfed into being unplayable, but as someone else suggested, maybe change the language to where it loses prevent damage when blocking as well.
shteev wrote: Fleshbag Marauder doesn't kill hexproof creatures. And is Void Winnower the best that Koth has got? I haven't got one of those!
Rootbreaker wrote: shteev wrote: Fleshbag Marauder doesn't kill hexproof creatures. And is Void Winnower the best that Koth has got? I haven't got one of those! I remember it doing so from when I was doing the Nissa heroic encounter that started with Gaea's Revenge, but it's been a while since I've done that so it might have changed or I might be misremembering.
shteev wrote: Rootbreaker wrote: shteev wrote: Fleshbag Marauder doesn't kill hexproof creatures. And is Void Winnower the best that Koth has got? I haven't got one of those! I remember it doing so from when I was doing the Nissa heroic encounter that started with Gaea's Revenge, but it's been a while since I've done that so it might have changed or I might be misremembering. Hexproof has gone through some weird changes, and in general, now, is immune to effects which say 'your first creature', even though, as a MTG player, you might expect those kinds of effects to be considered untargetted. For example, If I have 2 creatures, and my first one has hexproof, your Suppression Bonds will now Disable my second creature.
soultwist wrote: madwren wrote: That's why it's good to play non-targeting spells, though. I like when things shift. It stimulates creativity and is more of a challenge when you suddenly have to find answers to things. What non targeting spells are going to get around Prevent Damage?
madwren wrote: That's why it's good to play non-targeting spells, though. I like when things shift. It stimulates creativity and is more of a challenge when you suddenly have to find answers to things.
soultwist wrote: This looks to be the solutionHedron Blade
tracerbullet2 wrote: I just played against a Gideon 1 with my Chandra deck. He played the Carriage then used his first ability to give it flying and vigilance. Had to quit the battle since there were no cards in my deck that could beat that. I really hope the devs remove prevent damage from this card, because as it is now it is far too easy to make it unbeatable against most decks.