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  • Twysta
    Twysta Posts: 1,597 Chairperson of the Boards
    Actually Northern you get 50HP whereas the shield costs 75.
    Although I agree with you, you absolutely do not need to spam shields to win a tourney
    It's very possible to only use one shield a tourney and come up top 10 no problem.
    I do this often as I don't have much HP so use tournies to stock up on all the HP I can get.
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    NorthernPolarity wrote:
    Crazyeyeskiller wrote:
    grimeon wrote:

    I think you just have a different definition of pay to win. In most pay to win games, a "free" player will never beat a paying player. In this game there are plenty of opportunities to earn ingame currency. For example, if you couldn't open 3/4 star characters in tokens, it would be pay to win.
    I guess maybe. IMO having to pay for shields in order to keep your spot at the top of the leaderboard in PVP is pay to win. If you don't pay, you don't win. Unless your team is so scary that nobody wants to attack you. It could be argued that the ability to pay to max covers on a character instead of waiting until one happens to drop isn't necessarily pay to win but more like pay for the convenience of not having to wait. In my mind it's pretty clear though that the ability to pay to make your roster better is the very definition of pay to win. whatever, I'm fine with it. Many people have an averse reaction to this type of mechanic and will not pay out of spite just to see how far they can get without paying a dime.

    This doesn't make sense: you don't have to pay real money to get HP. the 500 progression reward gets you enough for a 3 hour shield, and you can get more HP through placement awards. If HP wasn't obtainable this way then sure, this would be P2W, but as is, you don't need to spend any money to do well in tournaments. Your definition for P2W seems to be like "you can spend money to do well" whereas I think the general consensus for P2W is that you MUST pay money in order to do well, which simply isn't the case in this game.

    No, P2W means that IF you spend money you will win. That doesn't preclude free players from being able to do well but the implication is that they will always be trumped by paying customers. As a paying customer (i had a real hard time sticking to the 4 cover roster limit) I can say this isn't necessarily true. Then again, I've only bought roster slots, the occasional pack, and a shield or two but never covers so maybe I'm P2Wing wrong.
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    NorthernPolarity wrote:
    Crazyeyeskiller wrote:
    grimeon wrote:

    I think you just have a different definition of pay to win. In most pay to win games, a "free" player will never beat a paying player. In this game there are plenty of opportunities to earn ingame currency. For example, if you couldn't open 3/4 star characters in tokens, it would be pay to win.
    I guess maybe. IMO having to pay for shields in order to keep your spot at the top of the leaderboard in PVP is pay to win. If you don't pay, you don't win. Unless your team is so scary that nobody wants to attack you. It could be argued that the ability to pay to max covers on a character instead of waiting until one happens to drop isn't necessarily pay to win but more like pay for the convenience of not having to wait. In my mind it's pretty clear though that the ability to pay to make your roster better is the very definition of pay to win. whatever, I'm fine with it. Many people have an averse reaction to this type of mechanic and will not pay out of spite just to see how far they can get without paying a dime.

    This doesn't make sense: you don't have to pay real money to get HP. the 500 progression reward gets you enough for a 3 hour shield, and you can get more HP through placement awards. If HP wasn't obtainable this way then sure, this would be P2W, but as is, you don't need to spend any money to do well in tournaments. Your definition for P2W seems to be like "you can spend money to do well" whereas I think the general consensus for P2W is that you MUST pay money in order to do well, which simply isn't the case in this game.

    I really don't get what's with the thought of people not using HP at all and just lose a 3* or two on a matter of principal. If you get at least 500 progression rating and finish in top 45, you have 150 HP to work with per tournament. If spending 150 HP gets you another 3* cover, that's a pretty good deal. What else are you going to do with that HP? I suppose it's hard to compete against the shield/break/reshield guys, but if you're spending that kind of HP, it's not exactly cheaper than even buying a 4* cover outright unless you never had the cover, and if someone wants to spend 5000 HP to get their first 4* cover that's their decision (and might even be worth it, depending on your point of view). It's certainly not a good deal for anything beyond your first 4* cover of a color.
  • Unknown
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    Woot just got my second green CStorm cover from a highly trained token (hard to believe that's exciting for me but thanks to the upcoming revision I am!) now I just need to hope the patch drops before my cover expires in 4 days twelve hours. Push it through guys, I want to level my Storm from 63 to 85 but not if I can't have her at 5/5/3 instead of the 3/5/5 I'm at now. Come on PATCH
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    Crazyeyeskiller wrote:
    Woot just got my second green CStorm cover from a highly trained token (hard to believe that's exciting for me but thanks to the upcoming revision I am!) now I just need to hope the patch drops before my cover expires in 4 days twelve hours. Push it through guys, I want to level my Storm from 63 to 85 but not if I can't have her at 5/5/3 instead of the 3/5/5 I'm at now. Come on PATCH


    I can relate. I have Storm at 85 and she is built 5/3/5 I want to change her to 4/5/4 or 5/5/3. I also have Obw 85 and at 4/5/4 but i reaized i made a horrible mistake on purple and want to change her to 3/5/5.
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    RESPEC

    (oo) What you want
    (oo) Baby, I got it.
    (oo) What you need
    (oo) Do you know I got it?
    (oo) All I'm askin'
    (oo) Is for a little respec, let me change a cover (just a little bit)
    Hey baby (just a little bit) when my powers are capped
    (just a little bit) mister (just a little bit)

    I set Thor up wrong, when I was all alone.
    Joined the forum (oo) now optimal setup is known (oo)
    All I'm askin' (oo)
    Is for a little respec, let me change a cover (just a little bit)
    Baby (just a little bit) when my powers are capped (just a little bit)
    Yeah (just a little bit)

    D3 I'm about to give you all of my money
    And all I'm askin' in return, honey
    Is to give me my rewards
    When the tourney is done (just a, just a, just a, just a)
    Yeah baby (just a, just a, just a, just a)
    When the tourney is done (just a little bit)
    Yeah (just a little bit)

    Ooo, your R40 patch is (oo)
    Sweeter than honey (oo)
    And guess what? (oo)
    So is my money (oo)
    All I want you to do (oo) for me
    Is give it to me RESPEC! (re, re, re ,re)
    Yeah baby (re, re, re ,re)
    Whip it to me (respec just a little bit)
    When you get home, now (just a little bit)

    R-E-S-P-E-C
    Find out what it means to me
    R-E-S-P-E-C
    Finally OBW at purple level three!

    RESPEC!

    (apologies to Aretha)
  • Unknown
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    Please tell me this update is coming before Friday/Saturday ! Or all my covers will expire :c . It would be like hitting myself in the boob if not.
  • Unknown
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    Generally speaking they try to push out the updates on Mon-Wed.
  • over_clocked
    over_clocked Posts: 3,961
    ^ That song, so awesome.

    Meh I made a mistake throwing out the 4th yellow cStorm cover from Simulator. Could have used it to level her some more and get extra passive damage. But it's not critical. With oBW though I heard that any lvl 4 ability is worse than lvl 5, and with Recon it's even worse than lvl 3 and lvl 5 at the same freaking time! So glad I found opinions on her best build before finding most of her covers. Are there any other heroes whose abilities become mostly worse/less useful when leveled +1 (one critical step)? IM 40's recharge and Venom's stun come to mind.
  • Unknown
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    I hope the patch is up in next 2 days. I have a few 3* covers waiting for respec and expiring soon.
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    Unity wrote:
    Please tell me this update is coming before Friday/Saturday ! Or all my covers will expire :c . It would be like hitting myself in the boob if not.

    #GirlMPQProblems - AmIRight?!
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    pandaberry6 wrote:
    Unity wrote:
    Please tell me this update is coming before Friday/Saturday ! Or all my covers will expire :c . It would be like hitting myself in the boob if not.

    #GirlMPQProblems - AmIRight?!

    Yes! Girls love marvel too <3 .

    -Vanessa ;*
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    Unity wrote:
    pandaberry6 wrote:
    Unity wrote:
    Please tell me this update is coming before Friday/Saturday ! Or all my covers will expire :c . It would be like hitting myself in the boob if not.

    #GirlMPQProblems - AmIRight?!

    Yes! Girls love marvel too <3 .

    -Vanessa ;*

    True that!

    -Julie

    We should be in an alliance together!
  • hurcules
    hurcules Posts: 519
    Hey hey hey... Some men have **** too! icon_redface.gif

    #justsayin'
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    hurcules wrote:
    Hey hey hey... Some men have **** too! icon_redface.gif

    #justsayin'

    Hahaha. That is true!

    #manbooblove
  • Unknown
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    pasa_ wrote:
    mouser wrote:
    This may sound somewhat minor, but I'd like to suggest you have the option to delete a cover/level from a character. As opposed to only being able to replace.

    There are a handful of characters that are arguably better with only 11 or 12 covers instead of the maximum allowed 13.

    Yep, some characters get worse by adding cover unfortunately. That should not really happen in the first place. Say bagman should be able to act on fewer things for less AP with option to more and pay up. Venom to stun just one character for 4 or team for 7 with all covers. (While OBW should cost at least 10AP in all purple cases just improving the effect)

    I've been a long time thinking about a similar improvement (but it does NOT involve changing OBW Purple... Don't dare to touch her icon_cool.gif )
    Since it is a little bit off-topic, and long, I've detailed it here:
    http://www.d3pforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=3741
  • Unknown
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    This patch reboosts my (and I'm sure some other's) confidence!
  • darkmagearcanis
    darkmagearcanis Posts: 401
    I think this might be going in today. My phone is loading a huge amount of data for the game.
  • Unknown
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    Don't the PC users usually see the patch first?
  • darkmagearcanis
    darkmagearcanis Posts: 401
    I don't know for sure. But I do know that an update happened on my phone for the back end items and the last time it took this amount of time to load it. R47 came out a few hours later.

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