Upcoming Patch Preview - R48 Discussion

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mischiefmaker wrote:

Pretty excited about this patch, but with some trepidation.

I've been very happy with the post-boost nerf landscape -- I've weaned myself off them almost entirely except in rare situations, which is how I think they're intended to be used, and I feel like I get beat a lot less by teams way weaker than mine, both of which are great things. I'm hoping stackable boosts don't change that dynamic.

I'm a bit sad that the respec option is limited to 13/13 characters, since, as is mentioned upthread, if you decide you want to keep a character at less than 13/13 and level up the wrong power, you're SOL. This isn't just an edge case, either, as OBW, MMN, IM40, mBW, Yelena, Venom, and Mawkeye are all potential candidates for purposefully leaving at less than 13 covers. Oh well, at least we're getting something! And now I don't feel bad about having backup copies of characters that I was considering for alternative builds.

Love achievements and sorted rosters, full stop. Can't wait to see these.

Not sure how to feel about alliances yet. On the surface, I think these could be fun and I'd be interested in joining one (or more than one, if that's allowed). But I have a bunch of worries: a lot of other games turn into "are you part of one of the most powerful clans? yes? great, you get the best rewards. no? go die in a fire." Also, I have a bunch of RL friends who play much more casually than I do. Will I have to choose between getting awesome alliance rewards with forumites and having fun with my RL friends?

Why would you ever bother respeccing venom or yelena? Obw...absolutely no reason for her to not be 13/13. M. Bw
s a 2 power character (same with venom actually)...no need for respec. Only two with viable reasons to not level are I'm and **magneto. ** magneto is still better off with 13/13..his red and blue just kinda suck is all. So IM @2 yellow is the only viable candidate. If you want 5/5/2 or 5/5/1.

I think the best way to implement alliances would be to once a month have a 4 day clan war at the same time and seperate from normal single player content. That way ppl not wanting to deal with clan stuff can still do single player and likely even have a chance at an easier time due to ppl being busy with the clan stuff. Also, just having an ISO bonus whenever a clan member does something would be cool. Not invasive, but rather more like the facebook sharing but in game only. Heck, the 2nd without the firsy would be fine too. I just don't want Klan rallies every week taking away content and putting burning crosses on my lawn.

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IceIX wrote:

Chimaera wrote:

Any ETA on the patch? My phone never seemed to update to the R47.1 you mentioned a while ago to fix the stuttering and background glitching on color matches.

Any client-side patch would need to be updated off of the App Store/Google Play store. Can't speak for it if you have automatic updates enabled or anything, but normally you have to go and grab the updates yourself. As for release timing on this, the base client code is in place and off with first parties for approvals while we're still twiddling knobs and buttons on the server side.

Ah ok thanks. I normally get the intrusive "update me now" prompts but I did check 2 days ago and again just now in the play store (android obviously) and no updates to get. Whatever I can live with it for a while longer.

Kelbris

I built a 3/5/4 Spidey (need a purple) to replace my 5/5/3, and now respec is a thing?

Can I turn that new Spidey into 2 purples? Not cool

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Ha, all the "I built a secondary character" were probably complaining weeks ago about no respec. Now that it's here, complaints about it again.

IceIX

jozier wrote:

Ha, all the "I built a secondary character" were probably complaining weeks ago about no respec. Now that it's here, complaints about it again.

Had to happen at some point if respecs were ever put in. Respecs don't obviate the use in a second copy of a character though for either build purposes or not-wanting-to-use-a-Health-Pack purposes.

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IceIX wrote:

jozier wrote:

Ha, all the "I built a secondary character" were probably complaining weeks ago about no respec. Now that it's here, complaints about it again.

Had to happen at some point if respecs were ever put in. Respecs don't obviate the use in a second copy of a character though for either build purposes or not-wanting-to-use-a-Health-Pack purposes.

Agreed. Most respec ready characters are ones that have multiple decent builds. Respec may help you fix a character to a build you prefer, but a 5/5/3 OBW has its uses in the same way a 3/5/5 one does. Having two let's you use both situationally, respec forces you to pick one or the other as before, just with the ability to change as nerfs/buffs come in and if you decide you don't like the build.

Afrocigar

Nice patch, guess this thing is getting pretty popular now. Going to love that respect ability. Nice job guys

Gigas Breaker

Seriously. If you had to build secondary characters, you should be happy that you no longer have to do that. This is good for everybody.

morgh

The "server-based time" thing probably means that you can no longer advance time to get the health packs for the time you would otherwise do nothing while sleeping?

Kyllian

IceIX wrote:

Chimaera wrote:

Any ETA on the patch? My phone never seemed to update to the R47.1 you mentioned a while ago to fix the stuttering and background glitching on color matches.

Any client-side patch would need to be updated off of the App Store/Google Play store. Can't speak for it if you have automatic updates enabled or anything, but normally you have to go and grab the updates yourself. As for release timing on this, the base client code is in place and off with first parties for approvals while we're still twiddling knobs and buttons on the server side.

Does anyone know how long it takes, for Apple, after they recieve the update till it becomes avaiable in the store?

Bcorm

Apple usually takes 7 to 10 days for approval. Google Play Store is almost immediate, they just do a preliminary malware screening and some quick code checks for anything that violates their Terms & Conditions.

Spoit

Mondo wrote:

Nonce Equitaur 2 wrote:

Mondo wrote:

Nonce Equitaur 2 wrote:

For the Respec, for the inevitable Spidey/Mags nerfs, anyone with 13 covers should automatically be awarded the 2 covers they are missing, and an option to sell similar as was done with Thor/Wolverine. For buffs/redesigns, it would be nice to get the missing covers. I'm thinking of my 4* Wolverine here, but I don't have 13 covers. Also, might be good if the costs were halved for any character with 13 covers.

I think the only problem with that is some people might think the value of selling the covers might be better than actually respec-ing. This is mostly only applicable for 3 and 4 *'s since you can get HP for selling the cover. I don't personally think I would ever do that, but depends on the situation.

You'd already have a 13-cover character that's been nerfed. You get 2 free covers under this proposal. If you're happy with how the character is, you can sell the 2 covers. If not, you can respec.

I don't necessarily agree, but that's just my opinion. Let's say I have 5 13/13 covered characters but only 1 of those 5 characters has been nerfed/buffed/tweaked. That would mean I would get 10 covers. I don't think that makes sense. Now if you were saying that you should get the 2 covers for a character that's been funbalanced, then I might agree but I'm still leaning towards no. The Respec ability allows us to keep leveling our character even if it's not the build we want. We can always go back and fix it after the fact. I think that adds more value than being given 2 covers.

Just my $.02 though

You know, other games do have compensation for changes. Like when PAD had a godfest that was accidentally turned off, they were perfectly happy to refund everyone the $$$ currency that was spent and let them keep the things they rolled.

If you're able to stack the ISO +AP boosts up to 6 AP, that would go a long way to mitigating the change of the +AP All boost being HP only (though I still think it's a bit too P2W for my tastes)

DD-The-Mighty

Spoit wrote:

Mondo wrote:

I don't necessarily agree, but that's just my opinion. Let's say I have 5 13/13 covered characters but only 1 of those 5 characters has been nerfed/buffed/tweaked. That would mean I would get 10 covers. I don't think that makes sense. Now if you were saying that you should get the 2 covers for a character that's been funbalanced, then I might agree but I'm still leaning towards no. The Respec ability allows us to keep leveling our character even if it's not the build we want. We can always go back and fix it after the fact. I think that adds more value than being given 2 covers.

Just my $.02 though

You know, other games do have compensation for changes. Like when PAD had a godfest that was accidentally turned off, they were perfectly happy to refund everyone the $$$ currency that was spent and let them keep the things they rolled.

If you're able to stack the ISO +AP boosts up to 6 AP, that would go a long way to mitigating the change of the +AP All boost being HP only (though I still think it's a bit too P2W for my tastes)

You should only bring up other games that are worse than this one, and as an example of how grateful you are for what D3 has given you. and don't forget to thank the the community manager.
(Thanks for the update iceIX, and answering all our questions. You're tip top.)

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One again proving how awesome you are Ice, thank you!

turul

I just won two respec CStorm covers from Highly Trained. D3, u have less than 7 days to release the Patch

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My biggest concern is the alliances. If they stay just a way for friends to give each other gifts and see each others progress thats cool, but I think we all know it's going to turn into some god awful Alliance vs Alliance bollocks and we'll have yet another game where you have to be beholden to a group of strangers.

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Sorry if this has been asked previously, but does the google save mean that players using a mobile device can transfer over to the steam version now?

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As long as alliances doesnt end up being the only way to win anything. If they carry on with the current events theme and have pvp, pve and alliance events rewards seperated then it should be fine.

turul

Nick-Fury wrote:

Sorry if this has been asked previously, but does the google save mean that players using a mobile device can transfer over to the steam version now?

nope, not yet

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Annnnd now I can use that 5th red Magneto cover that's been sitting in my inbox. Thank you D3!