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  • Bacon Pants
    Bacon Pants Posts: 1,012
    I have thoroughly enjoyed ripping apart IW, Punisher, and Fatty in the Hard Simulator...That is an easy 230 to grind. With the boosted characters in this go around I decided to level Magneto (60) and Daken (30) up...I wish I had one purple for Magneto though...he's 1-5-0 but still incredibly useful in this event.

    Whoever mentioned that Gapsule fella...They're in my overall bracket, they have over 90,000. I wish I had that persons difficulty. Nonetheless, over 60,000 so far and having fun.
  • Phantron wrote:
    Phantron wrote:
    I got killed and I mean slaughtered, destroyed, wiped, ruined, etc. in that battle with punisher stupid woman and Maggia fatso.

    She runs and hides and then does 2000 + damage 50% deletion hits! locks every tile and hides some more.

    Punisher drops the hammer after like the 2nd turn.

    This is ridiculous.

    Im40 77
    Storm with the stun 75
    Cap 68

    I am stunning and hammering for 2000 and covering up strike tiles and then suddenly in 2 turns they go wild and decimate me.

    How they are accumulating color while stunned is beyond me. I kept checking their stash and they were doing attacks without having the ability to do so.

    Cheat.

    This is fun?

    Whatever.

    The Don generates black, yellow, and blue AP each turn for simply being alive.

    This is basically a "Spiderman only" mission because you have no way to keep Punisher away from using Molotov without Spiderman. Though if you died to something other than Molotov, I think the other mechanisms in this fight is quite reasonable.

    Keep in mind that Magneto can override ANY tile in the game. Even if you only have Magnetic Field at level 1, getting rid of IW's uber protect tile or invisibility tile is well worth it.

    I think Punisher/Daken/Mags has a good chance at the IW fight without needing spidey and a decent board for green. Get some strike tiles up and blue mags punisher down quickly.

    You can't bring Punisher with you in that fight because he's on the other side no?

    I had Magneto kill Punisher in turn two with a good board, but Magneto is on the same level of brokeness of Spiderman. I usually don't mention him because far fewer guys have him at a high level compared to Spiderman so if you don't got Spiderman with 5 blue, you probably won't have a strong Magneto either. I'm guessing their side gets a Molotov every 5 turns (Don generates 1 black AP, plus whatever they happen to match) and 5 of those is 5K damage to everyone without factoring in any other source of damage, so you have 25 turns to go through Punisher's 9K HP, and you also have to deal with IW's Force Bubble/Invisibility (both accelerated by The Don). Sometimes you get lucky and they hit 10 black AP and you only have to worry about Trap instead of another Molotov.

    It's actually a pretty good fight other than Punisher just chugging Molotovs nonstop. The Trap should be given priority over Molotov, but currently it doesn't seem like it does, or at least not enough to stop Punisher from lighting you up with Molotovs.

    I managed to do this fight without spidey as well. It's not really a must stun like daken was. It's more prevention of letting them get what they need, and stealing what they have. I did this battle, and barely took any damage, using hulk, the hood, and mags. And my c mags was only a 30 2/1/1. So it's not as hard as it seems. My order priority was IW, Punisher, then the Don.
  • Whoever mentioned that Gapsule fella...They're in my overall bracket, they have over 90,000. I wish I had that persons difficulty. Nonetheless, over 60,000 so far and having fun.

    Ah, that's why multiplier is staying at max for entire time, even though with around 70k points icon_e_smile.gif

    This round isn't too bad with a level 104 Magneto vs 230s because you can still kill the enemies quite quickly, and Loki wasn't too bad because such a cheap shake up of board is very useful even with him at low level, but Doctor Doom/Hulk rounds will be harder (depending on enemy team make up) because I only have them at level 40 & 80.

    Hope the levels reduce though (I haven't noticed them do so at all the tournament so far) or everyone else gets to fight solely level 230 soon too, so it balances out!
  • Bacon Pants
    Bacon Pants Posts: 1,012
    bughunt wrote:
    Whoever mentioned that Gapsule fella...They're in my overall bracket, they have over 90,000. I wish I had that persons difficulty. Nonetheless, over 60,000 so far and having fun.

    Ah, that's why multiplier is staying at max for entire time, even though with around 70k points icon_e_smile.gif

    This round isn't too bad with a level 104 Magneto vs 230s because you can still kill the enemies quite quickly, and Loki wasn't too bad because such a cheap shake up of board is very useful even with him at low level, but Doctor Doom/Hulk rounds will be harder (depending on enemy team make up) because I only have them at level 40 & 80.

    Hope the levels reduce though (I haven't noticed them do so at all the tournament so far) or everyone else gets to fight solely level 230 soon too, so it balances out!

    Well, the IW, Punisher, and Fattie Simulator is now 230 in my Easy Mode. It's still the easiest of the tough opponents though. I grind this one to the ground before I do the simulation with Devil Dino...to me, that one is tougher.
  • over_clocked
    over_clocked Posts: 3,961
    edited February 2014
    bonfire01 wrote:
    Unfortunately my IM40 has precisely 1 blue cover and nothing else icon_e_smile.gif
    Why don't you delete your IM 40? I have none and the game offers me a perfectly good IM 40 with all the covers included, the recharge costs 10 yellow. Just looked, a lvl 33 IM 40, 5-5-3 build. 3330 health.

    The game doesn't give me any new covers to level, so I'm boosting my way to the leaderboard. I don't have a single maxed 2** hero (except Daken lol), but have an abundance of lvl 170 and 230 enemies even on normal mode, so it's not easy for middle midlevel players, either.
  • NorthernPolarity
    NorthernPolarity Posts: 3,531 Chairperson of the Boards
    My bad, I relied on the Spidey crutch for this 230. I really don't want to grind out the 500 iso rewards anymore, but I guess I should push on so that my 70 Doom can grow in time for this weekend tournament and when he is buffed later on...
  • bughunt wrote:
    Whoever mentioned that Gapsule fella...They're in my overall bracket, they have over 90,000. I wish I had that persons difficulty. Nonetheless, over 60,000 so far and having fun.

    Ah, that's why multiplier is staying at max for entire time, even though with around 70k points icon_e_smile.gif

    This round isn't too bad with a level 104 Magneto vs 230s because you can still kill the enemies quite quickly, and Loki wasn't too bad because such a cheap shake up of board is very useful even with him at low level, but Doctor Doom/Hulk rounds will be harder (depending on enemy team make up) because I only have them at level 40 & 80.

    Hope the levels reduce though (I haven't noticed them do so at all the tournament so far) or everyone else gets to fight solely level 230 soon too, so it balances out!

    Well, the IW, Punisher, and Fattie Simulator is now 230 in my Easy Mode. It's still the easiest of the tough opponents though. I grind this one to the ground before I do the simulation with Devil Dino...to me, that one is tougher.

    I'm glad you find it easy. I don't have Mags at all, and my Spidey only has 2 blue. Took a run at it with C Storm, OBW and IM40, + boosts - didn't last longer than five mins. Trouble is, that's a fragile team. Lose OBW, no healing, no stealing. Lose C Storm, no board cleansing or useful blue stun. Lose IM40 - fuggedaboutit.

    Still, I'm 10th in Normal, 4th Hard and 38th overall. Not bad, given I can't do the "Mags required" nodes. Will have one final run at it tomorrow morning, and see where I am. I'm enjoying the tourney mostly, I'm getting plenty of ISO to lvl up some chars, and will hopefully get a Psylocke at the end. I just wish it was a bit less of a grindfest to keep pace - I'm not a popular man about the house at the moment!
  • bughunt wrote:
    Whoever mentioned that Gapsule fella...They're in my overall bracket, they have over 90,000. I wish I had that persons difficulty. Nonetheless, over 60,000 so far and having fun.

    Ah, that's why multiplier is staying at max for entire time, even though with around 70k points icon_e_smile.gif

    This round isn't too bad with a level 104 Magneto vs 230s because you can still kill the enemies quite quickly, and Loki wasn't too bad because such a cheap shake up of board is very useful even with him at low level, but Doctor Doom/Hulk rounds will be harder (depending on enemy team make up) because I only have them at level 40 & 80.

    Hope the levels reduce though (I haven't noticed them do so at all the tournament so far) or everyone else gets to fight solely level 230 soon too, so it balances out!

    Well, the IW, Punisher, and Fattie Simulator is now 230 in my Easy Mode. It's still the easiest of the tough opponents though. I grind this one to the ground before I do the simulation with Devil Dino...to me, that one is tougher.


    Dino devil 1 is harder than IW. so is the im35 1. But the S&V wolvie is probably easier than IW.
  • locked wrote:
    bonfire01 wrote:
    Unfortunately my IM40 has precisely 1 blue cover and nothing else icon_e_smile.gif
    Why don't you delete your IM 40? I have none and the game offers me a perfectly good IM 40 with all the covers included, the recharge costs 10 yellow. Just looked, a lvl 33 IM 40, 5-5-3 build. 3330 health.

    The game doesn't give me any new covers to level, so I'm boosting my way to the leaderboard. I don't have a single maxed 2** hero (except Daken lol), but have an abundance of lvl 170 and 230 enemies even on normal mode, so it's not easy for middle midlevel players, either.

    My IM40 is level 43 and the game still offers me the 5/5/3 lower level one which I've been using over my own since he's got far better covers even though he's lower level than mine.
  • Phantron wrote:
    Phantron wrote:
    I got killed and I mean slaughtered, destroyed, wiped, ruined, etc. in that battle with punisher stupid woman and Maggia fatso.

    She runs and hides and then does 2000 + damage 50% deletion hits! locks every tile and hides some more.

    Punisher drops the hammer after like the 2nd turn.

    This is ridiculous.

    Im40 77
    Storm with the stun 75
    Cap 68

    I am stunning and hammering for 2000 and covering up strike tiles and then suddenly in 2 turns they go wild and decimate me.

    How they are accumulating color while stunned is beyond me. I kept checking their stash and they were doing attacks without having the ability to do so.

    Cheat.

    This is fun?

    Whatever.

    The Don generates black, yellow, and blue AP each turn for simply being alive.

    This is basically a "Spiderman only" mission because you have no way to keep Punisher away from using Molotov without Spiderman. Though if you died to something other than Molotov, I think the other mechanisms in this fight is quite reasonable.

    Keep in mind that Magneto can override ANY tile in the game. Even if you only have Magnetic Field at level 1, getting rid of IW's uber protect tile or invisibility tile is well worth it.

    I think Punisher/Daken/Mags has a good chance at the IW fight without needing spidey and a decent board for green. Get some strike tiles up and blue mags punisher down quickly.

    You can't bring Punisher with you in that fight because he's on the other side no?

    I had Magneto kill Punisher in turn two with a good board, but Magneto is on the same level of brokeness of Spiderman. I usually don't mention him because far fewer guys have him at a high level compared to Spiderman so if you don't got Spiderman with 5 blue, you probably won't have a strong Magneto either. I'm guessing their side gets a Molotov every 5 turns (Don generates 1 black AP, plus whatever they happen to match) and 5 of those is 5K damage to everyone without factoring in any other source of damage, so you have 25 turns to go through Punisher's 9K HP, and you also have to deal with IW's Force Bubble/Invisibility (both accelerated by The Don). Sometimes you get lucky and they hit 10 black AP and you only have to worry about Trap instead of another Molotov.

    It's actually a pretty good fight other than Punisher just chugging Molotovs nonstop. The Trap should be given priority over Molotov, but currently it doesn't seem like it does, or at least not enough to stop Punisher from lighting you up with Molotovs.


    This is where I am stuck. I have a spidey without blue. Sad tears...

    I also have a mag with only 1 pink cover. More tears of sadness.

    My marvel now mag is better off. Maybe I can use his hammer to kill everything on the board.
  • NorthernPolarity
    NorthernPolarity Posts: 3,531 Chairperson of the Boards
    My main bracket seems to have relaxed a ton: I'm currently in the lead with 80k points, with the nearest guy at 60k points. Normal mode is competitive as I'm only 300 points above 2nd place at 8.5k, and hard mode seems uncompetitive with me at 29k points and 2nd in 23k, 3rd being 19k points. Are these point values similar to your brackets? Level scaling seems to be catching up to the majority of the playerbase.
  • My bracket has some major forum heavy hitters in it, tops is at 76k currently.

    I'd say the brackets are loosening up, which tends to happen as long events wind on. Similar to TaT, Hard Mode is making lots of people quit early.

    Ironically, I've found a few missions in the lower level Hard Mode that I can grind out wins with boosts and some luck, which has put me around 20th place in my sub bracket (around 12k) - very head-scratching.

    Normal Mode is pretty much playing the rubberbanding lottery, a la TaT. You have to time the last push just right to place in the top 10.
  • My main bracket seems to have relaxed a ton: I'm currently in the lead with 80k points, with the nearest guy at 60k points. Normal mode is competitive as I'm only 300 points above 2nd place at 8.5k, and hard mode seems uncompetitive with me at 29k points and 2nd in 23k, 3rd being 19k points. Are these point values similar to your brackets? Level scaling seems to be catching up to the majority of the playerbase.
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    Trust me, my brackets are competitve as all heck, I have to play regularly to keep top positions. I don't mind, awaiting Doom buff with curiosity, mine is lvl 28 with 3 covers I think. If he gets the same treatment as Magneto, woo boy.
  • Hard mode is a joke. Meaning I love it because its a free win almost as ppl.can't seem.to deal.with the enemy.ramp up/don't have required characters/etc. It effects the Main.bracket as well. So glad I started a day late. Literally missed nothing this time except easy enemies. I rather fight harder teams once of twice than easy teams 8-12 times any day.

    First match vs 230 w team I went no boost, for a horrible board that they got a horrible combo off early and by the end the board had about 30 bubbles up lol. We were playing with a
    4x5 block at the top thre was so little room left. Lost by thhhhis much because punisher got tiles out and just slowly.chunked my team down with spidey. Played the level again with no spidey and had a way easier time. The some fights is blitz blitz blitz. Then again, magneto IS doing 1000 damage a swapped tile so lol.
  • NorthernPolarity
    NorthernPolarity Posts: 3,531 Chairperson of the Boards
    Yeah... starting later was a pretty good decision. Not liking the looks of those competitive brackets.
  • Fun facts, my normal mode is so close in levels to my hard mode, I'm not bothering much anymore with the former...

    I think I joined about a 20ish hours after the beginning of the event.
    Leading main bracket with 75k, followed by a 74k and 63k. Top 10 is 38k. Can't imagine what happens to the other 990 players.
    Very similar situation in hard mode, with about 40% of these scores obviously.
    Normal mode, I'm at 7,1k at 22nd, leader at 9,2k - obviously his highest hero of the whole roster is Daken, at level 45. I am not unhappy that them noobs can compete well - it's good for the game, I'm just bothered by the 230 mobs for so little progression score awarded, when others are probably fighting the same guys at one tenth that level.
  • I'm still having lots of fun with the one. Playing pretty casual, sitting at about 45k overall points and top 7ish in all three brackets.


    My hardest mission to complete has been the upper left hand corner mission, which has IM35, Dakan, Robot. I don't have a strong Magneto (2 reds - lvl 25), so it doesn't take long for them to chew through my team.
  • Eddiemon
    Eddiemon Posts: 1,470 Chairperson of the Boards
    Well we've crossed the 12 hour mark, so everyone has 1 refresh left. Sitting second in hard mode, third in main bracket, 25th in regular mode.

    Now should all ISO be going into Doom or Hulk.

    and is it bad that I want to run a Hood/Doom team so it can be summarised as a Dood team?
  • Dayv
    Dayv Posts: 4,449 Chairperson of the Boards
    Moral wrote:
    Super buffed hulk?

    The health . . .

    Max level will have to be over 20k. icon_eek.gif
    My level 106 Hulk will enjoy that round.
  • Top of my bracket is 78K, I'm sitting in 2nd w/73K. 10th is at just under 58K. 20K spread - at the end of the last subs the gap from 1st-10th was 5K. To those brave grinders pushing 90-100K in their brackets allowing me to get max multipliers on my missions, I salute you.

    SO looking forward to buffed Hulk and Doom. Buffed Mags was fun to try (I've only got 2 covers for him), but I'm ready for some Patch/Doom+/Spidey action. Just mowing the lawn.