5* Characters effects on PVP/PVE

slidecage

nick_chicane wrote:

People who leave their roster at level 70 are just doing so so that they can get easy fights. They deserve to get their **** kicked for trying to avoid fights they might actually lose.

sorry but we all dont have unlimited cash like some do.. Also most Do wait till they havee enough ISO saved before they bring their team up.. many said save til you can bring at least 8 up to the same level

Zen808

ClydeFrog76 wrote:

I have 18 max level 3*s, my highest 4* is 4/3/5 IW at level 131. I recently pulled a green Phoenix and I *really* want to roster her as I love the character and green is a kick-**** power. Thoughts?

After reading through the 5* effects on The Gauntlet thread, it would seem that it won't have much of an effect on me, as I'm already playing PVEs with 3*s boosted up to 290. Is that 100% verified?

Still got 9 days until she expires, so I think I might just hold on until after Heart of Darkness.

I had about 15 3*'s at 150 when I rostered OML. I saw a very slight increase in initial starting levels (maybe 12-18 levels). I then levelled a few 3*'s to 166, and a few 4*'s to 175, and scaling didn't get any worse. So I'd have to assume you'd be fine.

Nick441234

slidecage wrote:

nick_chicane wrote:

People who leave their roster at level 70 are just doing so so that they can get easy fights. They deserve to get their **** kicked for trying to avoid fights they might actually lose.

sorry but we all dont have unlimited cash like some do.. Also most Do wait till they havee enough ISO saved before they bring their team up.. many said save til you can bring at least 8 up to the same level

I've done all mine without ever buying ISO, so I dont buy that. People just want easy fights.

Kjeldbjerg

166 max roster here, with a 255 SS and OML.

Completed gauntlet a couple of days ago, no 4, whales or winfinite used. Node 40 and beyond was 395. Pretty sure it was the same last gauntlet without my 5*.
I also reach max progression in pve with min. grind, so in my opinion, if you have some 166, don't be afraid to roster 5*.

Also, levels are cheap until 120, so anyone playing somewhat reguarly should easily bring their top 8 or so to at least that level. Otherwise, i don't know what they're spending their iso on.

PeeOne

nick_chicane wrote:

My scaling isn't horrendous on this event. My Jugs/Venom/Daken fight is at 194. I used Patch 234/Fist 234/Thor 150 and have cleared it fairly comfortably so far. The Ares fight, I just bring Daredevil at 200 to stun him and then its all pretty comfortable.

Its obviously paramount you keep all your 3* around the same level, ranking them up gradually rather than just a handful. All my 3* are between 120-140 currently.

Heroic Tower has been harder and the final node of Moonstone, Ares and Bullseye is 214 for me even beefed up DD is 201 and my next few are low 180's - I can't get it done - tried about every combination of heroes targeting different enemies first!

Be the first event I haven't top 50'd in a long time

mindsuckr

Any updates from the devs yet?

dr tinykittylove

Scaling check anyone? I'm curious about the Inferno event since people were commenting about 5* effects on Growth Industry and it's my first pve after rostering Phoenix and Surfer.

Please include:
T3 roster level (plus general top if 5*s are skewing your average)
Levels on each node in Inferno.

Mine: T3 255 (3×5*s, everyone else 155/154)

Definitely not in Kansas - 119-123
HAMMER on Trial - 185/186/185
Look-Alike Contest - 395
Righteous Rivalry - 176-176
Om-nom-athon - 165

fmftint

dr tinykittylove wrote:

Scaling check anyone? I'm curious about the Inferno event since people were commenting about 5* effects on Growth Industry and it's my first pve after rostering Phoenix and Surfer.

Please include:
T3 roster level (plus general top if 5*s are skewing your average)
Levels on each node in Inferno.

Mine: T3 255 (3×5*s, everyone else 155/154)

Definitely not in Kansas - 119-123
HAMMER on Trial - 185/186/185
Look-Alike Contest - 395
Righteous Rivalry - 176-176
Om-nom-athon - 165

T3 average 251, 255 , 250 , 250


Definitely not in Kansas - 136-140
HAMMER on Trial - 185/186/185
Look-Alike Contest - 395
Righteous Rivalry - 190-191
Om-nom-athon - 165

lukewin

Mine: T3 average 218.3, 255 200 200

Definitely not in Kansas - 90-96
HAMMER on Trial - 136/137/136
Look-Alike Contest - 345-347 (this is what it says, but I faced 3 395s, I think)
Righteous Rivalry - 137-138
Om-nom-athon - 165

Pulled a Phoenix . Other people might be happy to pull it, not I. Only pulled 1 other 5*, OML red, and I've used a lot of LT's, almost all except 2 from DDQ and 1.3k PVP ones. Gonna wait as long as I can til I roster it.

Lemminkäinen

slidecage wrote:

Captain Wraps wrote:

Hi, I just created an account real quick because I am currently having the same issue with my roster. I am on day 60 and have most of my characters at about level 70 or below. Thanks to a lucky pull from some command points, I was able to get a silver surfer cover. Currently my top 5 covers are Silver Surfer (255) Black Widow (lvl 72) Ares (71) Storm (70) Thor (70) and they all have 13 covers. I have 54k ISO meaning I can max 1 out at 94 and level another up pretty high.

I was fighting characters around my level and doing pretty good in most pvp and pve areas. (good for me is about 400 - 500 points in pvp just fyi) Now I face characters that range from 130 - 166 and sometimes even higher. Essentially this means that I can no longer play the game really unless I sell my silver surfer cover (red). I'm not really sure what to do at the moment because Silver Surfer is my favorite character and I would hate to sell him but its looking like I don't have a choice really.

i would never open these type of tokens until you in mid 3 star land. even 4 stars would killed you

A lvl 70 4-star would kill him when his dudes are level 70-72? Are you really sure you understand how this game works?

DFiPL

Mine: T3 255/104/104 (one 5*, 13 add'l at 104, everybody else below that)

Definitely not in Kansas - 79-84 (62-69 on my Steam roster with no 5's, but two characters at 133+ and another 34 at 120)
HAMMER on Trial - 117/117/117 (100/101/100 on Steam)
Look-Alike Contest - 301-305 (235-264)
Righteous Rivalry - 91-91 on Steam; don't know if I have the juice to get that far on mobile with that scaling because none of my stunners are terribly leveled.
Om-nom-athon - 165 on Steam. That looks like a fixed level for that node, since an account without a 5* is seeing the same as yours is.

rdevil32

Roster:
1. 5* 260
2. 5* 255
3. 4* 210 x 3
Top 3 Average = 242
Top 5 Average = 229

Scaling:
Definitely not in Kansas - 121-136
HAMMER on Trial - 185/186/185
Look-Alike Contest - 395
Righteous Rivalry - 176-176
Om-nom-athon - 165

Zen808

Roster:
1x 5* @ 255
4x 4* @ 175

Top 3 Average: 201.66
Top 5 Average: 191

Kansas - 104-109
HAMMER - 159/159/159
Look-Alike - 395-395
Righteous - 149-150
Om-nom - 165

Unknown

Mine: 255 other 140
T3 average 178.3
T5 average 163

Definitely not in Kansas - 90-96
HAMMER on Trial - 136/137/136

johnmcclane

so..Have I made a mistake in adding SS to my weak roster?
for weak I mean a bunch of l94 2 stars, 3stars from l104 to 43, 4stars from l86 to l70
I'm having some difficulties either in PVP and in PVE - the latter one is sorta painful now.

The Bob The

johnmcclane wrote:

so..Have I made a mistake in adding SS to my weak roster?
for weak I mean a bunch of l94 2 stars, 3stars from l104 to 43, 4stars from l86 to l70
I'm having some difficulties either in PVP and in PVE - the latter one is sorta painful now.

You're probably gonna continue to not have a good time in PVP - it's been much more of a slog for me - but from what I hear PVE doesn't change too much for most.

If you're looking to dump him, here's the key question: Is lvl 166 a possibility for you yet? If so, you're approaching the point where you might be kicking yourself for dropping him in maybe six months (depending on play style). If you're capped at 143 because that's the best-covered char you have, there might be a stronger argument for giving him the heave-ho. Others have, and report an improvement to their matchups.

Take my advice well salted because I keep damn near everyone, but I've got a 2-cover OML and a 1-cover SS, and I'm hanging on, but I've also got 10 166s and a handful of (middling) 10-cover 4*s queued up, so I'm farther along the curve. Also I'm weird. Anyway, my two cents. It's a hard situation, no argument there.

johnmcclane

The Bob The wrote:

johnmcclane wrote:

so..Have I made a mistake in adding SS to my weak roster?
for weak I mean a bunch of l94 2 stars, 3stars from l104 to 43, 4stars from l86 to l70
I'm having some difficulties either in PVP and in PVE - the latter one is sorta painful now.

You're probably gonna continue to not have a good time in PVP - it's been much more of a slog for me - but from what I hear PVE doesn't change too much for most.

If you're looking to dump him, here's the key question: Is lvl 166 a possibility for you yet? If so, you're approaching the point where you might be kicking yourself for dropping him in maybe six months (depending on play style). If you're capped at 143 because that's the best-covered char you have, there might be a stronger argument for giving him the heave-ho. Others have, and report an improvement to their matchups.

Take my advice well salted because I keep damn near everyone, but I've got a 2-cover OML and a 1-cover SS, and I'm hanging on, but I've also got 10 166s and a handful of (middling) 10-cover 4*s queued up, so I'm farther along the curve. Also I'm weird. Anyway, my two cents. It's a hard situation, no argument there.

After this I'm thinking of let him go, even if I could regret it in a while.
However, my 3 stars are not 143, the highest is 104 (not capped, just max possible level - and it is , the one that I would have discarded if i didn t had like 4 covers in a row of her), then:
102
91
89
78
76
68
and others at lower levels + a bunch of 4 stars (all 1 cover, 2 covers for )

Quite mediocre, doesn't it? I'm trying to climb up in the simulator to get the 4000 points in Season PVP and cross my fingers for the 10 , but it's hard, right now I'm at almost 3000 playing as much as I can (but I've got to work, also)

Philly79

At least two updates have been released since this issue was brought up and still nothing? C'mon guys fix it already...I am not in such a bad spot but plenty of others are. My problem is that I use to be able to make it to 250-300 in pvp on seed teams alone, now I get 3 teams for 101 and get tossed into the mix of comparable rosters. I have not leveled either of the 5*s so they sit at 255 to avoid hitting a level 270 wall. Bottom line is the issue needs to be addressed. Someone mentioned a temporary bench system and that might work, charge like 50hp to bench a character or something. When I submitted a ticket months ago about this customer service said the matchmaking takes your 3 highest characters and calculates it off of that but a fix was incoming. Again this was months ago so not sure what the delay is.

BlackSheep101

Philly79 wrote:

At least two updates have been released since this issue was brought up and still nothing? C'mon guys fix it already...

It's yet to be confirmed they have any intention of fixing it. The only official comment I've seen on the matter went something like, "We're going to fix it so it always makes sense to level your characters."

I think I'll avoid General Discussion for a few weeks after that patch is released.

mindsuckr

dr tinykittylove wrote:

Scaling check anyone? I'm curious about the Inferno event since people were commenting about 5* effects on Growth Industry and it's my first pve after rostering Phoenix and Surfer.

Please include:
T3 roster level (plus general top if 5*s are skewing your average)
Levels on each node in Inferno.

Mine: T3 255 (3×5*s, everyone else 155/154)

Definitely not in Kansas - 119-123
HAMMER on Trial - 185/186/185
Look-Alike Contest - 395
Righteous Rivalry - 176-176
Om-nom-athon - 165

T3: 255 (5*) then the next 17 are all 140.

Definitely not in Kansas - 90-96
HAMMER on Trial - 136-137-136
Look-Alike Contest - 345-347
Righteous Rivalry - 126-127
Om-nom-athon - 165