Is the Vault Working for You? Vault Efficiency

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  • I had really good luck with the vault Independence week, but since that it's been almost exclusively 2*'s, health packs, and on rare occasion a 3* cover that I already had maxed. So yeah, IMO even more useless than before. The upside is that it's been weening me off DPD.

    I stopped playing the other events because wasting time on competition isn't worth it if you have any even remotely real life stuff you need to focus on. DPD is fun when you win stuff that's actually useful, but most of the time it's just a boring slog, like everything else in the game. Grind grind grind for a slim chance of getting any meaningful progression.

    No thanks. The other upside is that if I ever find another game to play that's actually fun, challenging, and reasonably casual, I still have my digital balance to use for that (which I'd intended to put toward roster slots). Obv. would reconsider if devs actually start focusing on making the game fun and make progression possible, but I have very little faith that will ever happen, and it's probably for the best since they never seem to change things in a way that makes the game less of a grindy mess (perpetual obsession with enforcing artificial scarcity / drop rates etc..).
  • Dauthi
    Dauthi Posts: 995 Critical Contributor
    DFiPL wrote:
    With two more 2* today, I'm up to 28 of my last 42 tacos having been 2*. whee. It's kind of funny how that didn't annoy me nearly as much under the old system as it does with the animation. It's like "yes yes get it over with just show me what **** I got today."

    where before there was the anticipation of "what's it gonna be??"

    Don't get me wrong. I like the vault. I like the idea behind it. I'm just coming around to the idea that 300 items within is too many for the "the more 2* you pull the more likely you are to pull something you WANT the next time" mechanic to really work, and the animation just adds aggravation I don't need.

    I still believe 300 items is way too much for the "pull something and you won't get it again" system to work as intended. It is better than what we had, but it could, and should, be so much better.

    I find myself forgetting to do dailies occasionally just because the tokens are going to be useless for me for another 3-4 months or so. See you guys then, when I can get a 90% chance to get a single 4*. I'm sure that day will be great when it gets here...
  • DFiPL
    DFiPL Posts: 2,405 Chairperson of the Boards
    Dauthi wrote:
    DFiPL wrote:
    With two more 2* today, I'm up to 28 of my last 42 tacos having been 2*. whee. It's kind of funny how that didn't annoy me nearly as much under the old system as it does with the animation. It's like "yes yes get it over with just show me what **** I got today."

    where before there was the anticipation of "what's it gonna be??"

    Don't get me wrong. I like the vault. I like the idea behind it. I'm just coming around to the idea that 300 items within is too many for the "the more 2* you pull the more likely you are to pull something you WANT the next time" mechanic to really work, and the animation just adds aggravation I don't need.

    I still believe 300 items is way too much for the "pull something and you won't get it again" system to work as intended. It is better than what we had, but it could, and should, be so much better.

    I find myself forgetting to do dailies occasionally just because the tokens are going to be useless for me for another 3-4 months or so. See you guys then, when I can get a 90% chance to get a single 4*. I'm sure that day will be great when it gets here...

    They also seem to have fixed the pre-shuffle. I can't re-shake the random before opening my first taco anymore. Sadness.
  • scottee
    scottee Posts: 1,610 Chairperson of the Boards
    DFiPL wrote:
    Dauthi wrote:
    DFiPL wrote:
    With two more 2* today, I'm up to 28 of my last 42 tacos having been 2*. whee. It's kind of funny how that didn't annoy me nearly as much under the old system as it does with the animation. It's like "yes yes get it over with just show me what **** I got today."

    where before there was the anticipation of "what's it gonna be??"

    Don't get me wrong. I like the vault. I like the idea behind it. I'm just coming around to the idea that 300 items within is too many for the "the more 2* you pull the more likely you are to pull something you WANT the next time" mechanic to really work, and the animation just adds aggravation I don't need.

    I still believe 300 items is way too much for the "pull something and you won't get it again" system to work as intended. It is better than what we had, but it could, and should, be so much better.

    I find myself forgetting to do dailies occasionally just because the tokens are going to be useless for me for another 3-4 months or so. See you guys then, when I can get a 90% chance to get a single 4*. I'm sure that day will be great when it gets here...

    They also seem to have fixed the pre-shuffle. I can't re-shake the random before opening my first taco anymore. Sadness.

    It still worked for me on this most recent round.
  • DFiPL
    DFiPL Posts: 2,405 Chairperson of the Boards
    scottee wrote:
    DFiPL wrote:
    Dauthi wrote:
    DFiPL wrote:
    With two more 2* today, I'm up to 28 of my last 42 tacos having been 2*. whee. It's kind of funny how that didn't annoy me nearly as much under the old system as it does with the animation. It's like "yes yes get it over with just show me what **** I got today."

    where before there was the anticipation of "what's it gonna be??"

    Don't get me wrong. I like the vault. I like the idea behind it. I'm just coming around to the idea that 300 items within is too many for the "the more 2* you pull the more likely you are to pull something you WANT the next time" mechanic to really work, and the animation just adds aggravation I don't need.

    I still believe 300 items is way too much for the "pull something and you won't get it again" system to work as intended. It is better than what we had, but it could, and should, be so much better.

    I find myself forgetting to do dailies occasionally just because the tokens are going to be useless for me for another 3-4 months or so. See you guys then, when I can get a 90% chance to get a single 4*. I'm sure that day will be great when it gets here...

    They also seem to have fixed the pre-shuffle. I can't re-shake the random before opening my first taco anymore. Sadness.

    It still worked for me on this most recent round.

    Hasn't worked on either mobile or Steam for me the last two rounds.
  • ninjar69
    ninjar69 Posts: 21 Just Dropped In
    I guess I've one of the lucky few
    Gotten 3 4*
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    blueflag.pngicon_ironman.png
    And
    blueflag.pngicon_nickfury.png (didnt need)
    n handfull of 3 stars that needed.
    HP 250 a few times
    Yea mostly 2 stars, but the extra iso
    And HP is nice.
  • ShanePHallam
    ShanePHallam Posts: 94 Match Maker
    It's just sad because I haven't even redeemed a token yet. Really all I need are the 4*s (ISO and HP would be nice,) so I am going to stockpile. Not sure if I'll do 300 each, but we will see. Not worth the small chances to open the 10 each week.
  • scottee
    scottee Posts: 1,610 Chairperson of the Boards
    DFiPL wrote:
    scottee wrote:

    It still worked for me on this most recent round.

    Hasn't worked on either mobile or Steam for me the last two rounds.

    I'm on mobile. Are you opening other tokens? It's seemed to 'lock' once you open ANY token, not just a taco. So even a standard token will lock the Taco Vault.
  • DFiPL
    DFiPL Posts: 2,405 Chairperson of the Boards
    scottee wrote:
    DFiPL wrote:
    scottee wrote:

    It still worked for me on this most recent round.

    Hasn't worked on either mobile or Steam for me the last two rounds.

    I'm on mobile. Are you opening other tokens? It's seemed to 'lock' once you open ANY token, not just a taco. So even a standard token will lock the Taco Vault.

    If I log in to do DDQ and I earn tokens from event placement or dailies, I open that after I've opened my tacos. What I've done is earn the tacos, go try to 'reset' the vault, if necessary, quit out of the program if I don't like what I see, reload, etc. Nothing changes.

    I eventually quit trying and just started opening tacos as soon as I earned them. It's been a couple weeks since I've been able to shuffle a vault at the start of a cycle with no change in my methods from when it was working to when it stopped.
  • Jeh64
    Jeh64 Posts: 22
    I gave up on the vault after I pulled four moonstones in a row. icon_cry.gif
  • Jeh64 wrote:
    I gave up on the vault after I pulled four moonstones in a row. icon_cry.gif

    Oh that stinks. I'm so sorry, well at least its 1000 iso.
  • mr_X
    mr_X Posts: 375 Mover and Shaker
    Excluding the independence vault which was way better than the daily taco vault the best thing I have got from it is healthpacks.

    Unless you are very patient or have the means to whaleout a vault the odds do seem pretty well stacked against you.
  • Nick441234
    Nick441234 Posts: 1,496 Chairperson of the Boards
    The vault is horrendous. I think I've had maybe 2 3* come out and a few 1500 iso but most of it has been 2*. I dont even remotely get excited when using it now.
  • Argon Flame
    Argon Flame Posts: 98 Match Maker
    Over the weekend I did some tests. It looks as though when you click on a taco the animation sequence starts. This sequence is generated but it does not change: if you have 300 items in the Vault you will have to wait 299 cycles to see that token again.

    But that does mean waiting around two minutes for a cycle.

    The next taco generates a different sequence too.
  • I could be doing something wrong... but when I hoarded my tacos for a while and I noticing that there was no 300 counter on the top like the current weeks taco has. To me that would mean that it is pointless to save our tacos up... Do guys see the same thing?
  • Lee T
    Lee T Posts: 318
    Kanaris wrote:
    I could be doing something wrong... but when I hoarded my tacos for a while and I noticing that there was no 300 counter on the top like the current weeks taco has. To me that would mean that it is pointless to save our tacos up... Do guys see the same thing?

    The "week off" taco vault isn't displayed the same way as the "week on" vault. You're not supposed to redeem these tacos untill it's "on" the following week. The two vaul cycle between active and reserve every five days.

    So far I'm not a fan of the system. i never hoarded anything in the game and now I'm closing in 80 tacos. I never redeemed one actually. I'd rather be sure to get a 4* than maybe getting a 3* I will have to sell 50% of the time anyway.
  • nwman
    nwman Posts: 331 Mover and Shaker
    I pulled a 4* last week in my 10 tokens. I've gotten 3 3* in a week also, I get less hp draws so far with this system, but that could change. Health packs are nice if you have 10+ or 0 and need them. Saving tokens for health could be smarter than hoarding for 4* I really think.

    I bought 40 packs to color cover prof x and it took me 5 I think. So 200 tokens but I hit one of the other 4 stars first and a bunch of 3 stars I needed.

    It was expensive but I figured it was at least better than regular tokens.

    So with that said I think one could draw reasonably well hoarding before 300 of each, and if you had 300 you shouldn't draw them all unless a 4* remained. I imagine that will happen at some point. Horrible.

    150 health packs is great except you don't regen them for days.

    It should probably be a 200 token vault at most.
  • Malcrof
    Malcrof Posts: 5,971 Chairperson of the Boards
    Think they heard me complain, or saw elsewhere i was opening tokens to get health packs for DP vs MPQ and a 1k run in PVP.. so it gave me 2 4*'s and 500 HP lol. One of those 4*'s was a icon_starlord.pngredflag.png . he was my first 4* ever, got him from my very first event token ever, hundreds of days later.. that is only his 2nd cover.

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  • jojeda654
    jojeda654 Posts: 1,162 Chairperson of the Boards
    scottee wrote:
    DFiPL wrote:
    scottee wrote:

    It still worked for me on this most recent round.

    Hasn't worked on either mobile or Steam for me the last two rounds.

    I'm on mobile. Are you opening other tokens? It's seemed to 'lock' once you open ANY token, not just a taco. So even a standard token will lock the Taco Vault.

    I spent about 20 minutes reshuffling the last savory vault so I could get a chance at a icon_professorx.pngblueflag.png and icon_bullseye.png

    On Android. This was probably about 10 minutes after my Vault had rolled over. And I remember panicking about not being able to reset the vault cause I had just opened a Heroic token from an alliance reward.



    I got a red Hulkbuster from the 20 tokens I had stockpiled and I got a purple Bullseye from the last 2 tokens for that cycle.

    At this point, the only characters that do not have 13 covers are Ragnarok, Vision, and Bullseye. I probably have about another 3 characters that need 1 more cover for my preferred spec. If no more 3*'s are introduced, I really have no reason to cash in any more taco tokens. icon_neutral.gif
  • DFiPL
    DFiPL Posts: 2,405 Chairperson of the Boards
    Final two tacos of the current 5-day cycle, sitting on five 2* pulled and fully expecting to hit seven for the fourth time in the last five cycles...I pull two 3*.

    Of course, one of those was Sentry and the other was Groot. Both are 13 covers as well as maxed in the specific color with which the vault rewarded me.

    Thought that counts, I guess.