The Gauntlet - May 28 - June 4

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  • Tips for Star-Lord, Kingpin and Hood? Thanks in advance.
  • morph3us wrote:
    carcusgod wrote:
    So I suppose this tournament isn't intend for people who haven't been playing very long? I've been trying to level a handful of 2 stars up but the teams I'm given to fight for the first node in just the second leg of the tournament are 20 levels above my highest level powered up hero. I've made it to the 4th node, but I tired of losing over and over again. It really sucks being locked out of most of an entire event. Am I in some mid-game limbo where the matching system just doesn't know what to do with me? I would just play PVP to try and get ISO to level up, but the matches I'm getting there are ridiculous and I'm tired of losing over and over again. Sorry for the tirade, but I'm sincerely interested if there's anything I can do to get matched with fights that are around my level?

    20 levels above your highest level powered up hero is actually a reasonably fair fight, in game terms. In my run through the very first ever Gauntlet, I only had a 2* roster, with maxed 94s, and a couple powered up to level 150, I was able to complete the entire thing, facing opponents levelled up to about 220 (although I had to boost the entire third sub). With a current roster of 10 maxed 3*s, and a level 200 4*, my highest level opponents this time around are level 350, so if anything, the level disparity worsens as you progress in the game.

    Raisin is right on the money, though, the Gauntlet, more than any other event in the game, rewards roster diversity and depth. If you have enough depth to be able to assess a node, figure out your colour coverage for best countering your opposing team, plus figure out the appropriate ability set to counter the enemy team's abilities, then you'll do just fine, for the most part.

    The difficulty with being in 2* land is that there isn't sufficient roster depth there to provide you with the answers that you'll need to all these nodes, especially as this seems to be one of the more difficult Gauntlets I've played through. Most of your roster depth comes in 3* land. The same problem applies in part in 4* land: when the nodes scale to 395, 3*s tend to fold quickly, and there isn't sufficient roster depth available yet in 4* land to compensate for this. Also, the level disparity between a 4* at 270, and an exponentially powered up 3* at 395 is a lot more significant than it seems.

    In other words, it sounds like you're being level matched appropriately in this Gauntlet, but it sounds like you probably don't have enough maxed 2*s to progress further yet (or transitioning 3*s). It will come with time - the Gauntlet really is designed to test people with fairly advanced rosters.

    This is why I hate when ppl say "don't buff 2*"...they are the majority player in this Game. They deserve more roster depth(4* too, but they have more problems like scaling).
  • SnagglePuss
    SnagglePuss Posts: 702 Critical Contributor
    Had to whale IF/Hood/HB
    Got close once but after that it was just constant death, I don't have enough of the top tier covered. Tried to chess it with prof but there is to much hp to get through

    Will whale the last essential as well as again no adequate combination. ... Just need to survive long enough to whale.
  • Finally finished the 3rd sub, and a large sense of satisfaction about it as there were several nodes I just didn't have enough deadpool points left over to whale. I did whale the ultron, loki, she hulk one... I dunno how you can possibly finish that node without it! It was a cheesy and cheap move on the devs part putting that one in! However that node aside, persistence with other nodes paid off in my case! And happy to get an extra hulkbuster cover... Not sure I'd do it again next time gauntlet comes around again... some of those nodes were not fun at all!!!

    Not surprisingly node 42 (lvl 395) and also the essential node with Hulkbuster, Iron Fist and Hood (lvl 380 when I completed it) proved to be a bane of many of the nodes I did not whale with deadpool. I didn't use any buffs and it was more down to luck than any form of skill or planning! The only conclusion I could draw with those nodes, is you either need to have whales or get very lucky with a cascade of your own.

    The hulkbuster one I did upwards of a dozen times before luck finally smiled on me and caused a cascade where I could Shapeshift Mystique (stunning Hulkbuster) and Master stroke Hood, followed up with Capts red and then his blue on Iron Fist taking out his attack tile. I can't remember who was my third I think it was storm so she could use her green to generate AP and nuke any board that looked too favorable to the AI.. I did lose Storm and was about to lose captain America to Hulkbuster if he fired off his red after his black... FUnny thing was his health was so low, firing his black killed him and won me the match! I was laughing my royal backside off given how many attempts I had tried that node without success and that attempt was looking like my best shot at getting past it, if Hulkbuster had enough health to survive his own black ability firing that would have been another loss! Still laughing about it even now...

    Sim 42 i did actually before the essential above, but again it was all down to luck of a cascade such that I could get Captain America going, Hood (lvl 110, I deliberately kept him low as I don't want him tanking) proved insanely valuable to this and also preventing 3Thor and Hulkbuster firing off their big attacks. The problem for me was getting hood to survive deadpool's purple attack or thor's green attack. All previous attempts where I failed hood died very early or was the first taken out.

    I think in terms of AP denial, She hulk with a rank 5 green would prove a more useful due to her larger hit point pool, though a bit risky as its random but it is cheap.
  • mr_X
    mr_X Posts: 375 Mover and Shaker
    Well this sucks. Finally strong enough to complete a gauntlet after numerous attempts when I lived in two star land and they have to make IW an essential on one node. Seriously why. One node?

    After seeing mystique on the final essential branch, I thought ,way to go, IW must not be an essential after all. Not even ragewhaled yet so two nukes in reserve which would have sealed it for me. Guess I now need the luckiest token pull ever or I am not getting the hulk buster.

    Although I have started to rely more on my 3*, I must admit I like the powered up twos* and that it gives people with two stars and early transitioners a chance to compete. Plus PvP is way more fun now.
  • Philly79
    Philly79 Posts: 422 Mover and Shaker
    mr_X wrote:
    Well this sucks. Finally strong enough to complete a gauntlet after numerous attempts when I lived in two star land and they have to make IW an essential on one node. Seriously why. One node?

    After seeing mystique on the final essential branch, I thought ,way to go, IW must not be an essential after all. Not even ragewhaled yet so two nukes in reserve which would have sealed it for me. Guess I now need the luckiest token pull ever or I am not getting the hulk buster.

    Although I have started to rely more on my 3*, I must admit I like the powered up twos* and that it gives people with two stars and early transitioners a chance to compete. Plus PvP is way more fun now.

    same here bro, no IW means not completing the Gauntlet and no HB cover icon_e_sad.gif I have my HB at 2/2/2 so a 3rd black would have been nice. After I finished the 2nd part of the gauntlet I messed around in Global but didn't see much of a point so I farmed std tokens from subs 1 & 2 and played around in pvp. I am loving the new point structure, I already have almost 1500 towards my 10-pack so I am happy about that...maybe I will pull a HB and IW from the cover pack? Fingers x'd.....
  • optimus2861
    optimus2861 Posts: 1,233 Chairperson of the Boards
    Well for some reason this morning I remembered I have 30 boosts in, like, everything, because I never use them.

    +75% critical boost, +60% match damage. Witch, Thor, and Groot went down like cheap tents. None of them got any of their big skills off, and Groot never healed this time. Then the game even gave me back the critical boosts as a reward.

    Sheesh. I feel a bit stupid for not thinking of those earlier icon_redface.gif
  • FloridaFan
    FloridaFan Posts: 23 Just Dropped In
    Simulation 37 - IF / X-Force / Black Panther

    Advice for a 2* --> 3* transition roster?

    I can't keep Luke Cage / Hood / OBW alive long enough because of IF's tile. Tried some other teams as well. I'm considering dropping my first whale here.
  • FloridaFan wrote:
    Simulation 37 - IF / X-Force / Black Panther

    Advice for a 2* --> 3* transition roster?

    I can't keep Luke Cage / Hood / OBW alive long enough because of IF's tile. Tried some other teams as well. I'm considering dropping my first whale here.

    I used Mystique, 2* Magneto and Loki. I know it sounds crazy but it worked beautifully for me. Good luck!
  • Malcrof
    Malcrof Posts: 5,971 Chairperson of the Boards
    joecoolmd wrote:
    FloridaFan wrote:
    Simulation 37 - IF / X-Force / Black Panther

    Advice for a 2* --> 3* transition roster?

    I can't keep Luke Cage / Hood / OBW alive long enough because of IF's tile. Tried some other teams as well. I'm considering dropping my first whale here.

    I used Mystique, 2* Magneto and Loki. I know it sounds crazy but it worked beautifully for me. Good luck!

    My Mystique is 4/4/5 and level 120, Concentrate on Blue, so she can change everything to purple and black. Shapeshift + masterstroke = 1shot any of the enemies. Toss in Hood to AP steal (if you have him).
  • Wolarsen
    Wolarsen Posts: 326 Mover and Shaker
    This is the HB / IF/ Hood node.


    I beat that node with LCap+Captain Marvel. IF's strike tile activates her yellow, giving you free red and black every turn.

    You can then use Cap's red to kill Hood very quickly and keep stunning HB with Cap.Marvel's black. Focus mainly on collecting blue so you can keep Cap's blue going and never let HB get his turn. Or you can use Mystique's purple to stun and then black to deal heavy damage too.
    Awesome tip, worked like a charm with a 135CMarvel/135Myst/166 LCap! When I launched the last killing shield I had 3 red CD already on the field
  • dkffiv wrote:
    NCSTL wrote:
    That last node (loki, she hulk & ultron) is a special kind of hell. Cant seem to beat it for the life of me. Cant get any offense going before loki does his mischief or she hulk zeros out your aps. not fun at all and should be revisited. Dont have deadpool so cant whale it. I dont mind a challenge and i dont mind a puzzle; but this node screams "hey empty your wallet out" to beat this.

    IW LCap MMags, boost +all +bp +yr if you can afford it. ~30-50% success rate when I tried it.
    joecoolmd wrote:
    Advice on IF, Hood, and HB? I wiped twice so far. Both times a cascade of purple benefitted them and IF and HB did me in.

    Hulk/Patch, boost all + gb match damage and crit damage. (Kill IF first so that the attack tile goes away once you get berserker off)

    Thank you so much for the idea on the Loki, Ultron and She-Hulk node. It did not occur to me to put Modern Magneto in there, but that did the trick. Well after a couple more wipes, but at least I could see that victory was possible.
  • CaptainFreaky
    CaptainFreaky Posts: 451 Mover and Shaker
    DrNitroman wrote:
    DrNitroman wrote:
    I still have 5 essentials and node 42 to fight before completing gauntlet.
    <snip>
    I just have completed this node 42 at my first attempt using Cap/Loki/Hood

    I knew this team was considered efficient in this thread but I didn't dare trying it since now because I was afraid to use two support char with low health and only one hitter. I must say, I couldn't have been more successful, almost suffered no damage icon_eek.gif .

    Only once, the enemy team had an opportunity to fire a power: Hulkbuster had 9 blue AP ready to generate some red (and some punishment for me)... but Cap stunned him twice until his teammates stole those blue AP.

    Consequently no enemy power was used and each enemy was downed, by 5000 hp slices, shield after shield icon_captainamerica.png

    OK, time for the 2nd essential Starlord/Kingpin/Hood icon_twisted.gif

    Edit: in Torch essentials, I used
      XF/Loki/Torch against Starlord/Kingpin/Hood XF/Loki/Torch against ProfX/4Thor/Fury
    Indeed, AP steal + Flame Jet work well against slow enemy character.
    Now, only the 3 last Mystique/IW essentials remaining, all 395 lvl.


    Just beat node 42 as well with LCap140/Hood110/Loki140. HB/DP/LThor were all around lvl 320. Took down DP first, then HB, then LThor last.
    I too was worried about having only LCap for offence, but AP denial from Hood & Loki really were key to victory. AI had a Fury purpleflag.png TU which they used, but it didn't do much damage and I had Loki Trickery at the ready to convert the Strike tile into a Protect tile for me had it resolved (which it didn't as the silly AI matched it away). Otherwise, the AI didn't fire a single ability.
    It was suspenseful, as DP was collecting a lot of purple just before I downed him, and then I had to keep the Cap stuns fueled lest LThor get off a ThunderStrike, but it worked out and it was great!

    Now...onto the Essentials. Not looking forward to those....
  • deatheats
    deatheats Posts: 13
    Stuck on Simulation 37. Level 324 IF/X-Force/BP is kicking my butt.
    Losing 1000 pts every turn due to IF's attack tile is just too much to handle.

    I've got about 25 maxed 3*s but I just haven't been able to find the right combo.

    Any suggestions?
  • CaptainFreaky
    CaptainFreaky Posts: 451 Mover and Shaker
    deatheats wrote:
    Stuck on Simulation 37. Level 324 IF/X-Force/BP is kicking my butt.
    Losing 1000 pts every turn due to IF's attack tile is just too much to handle.

    I've got about 25 maxed 3*s but I just haven't been able to find the right combo.

    Any suggestions?

    Definitely target IF first.
    Use Luke Cage if you've got him decently covered - his protect tile will at least partially counter the IF attack tile, plus he's got a really good Yellow attack and a Black that can stun with 4 or more covers.
    Others to consider - LCap (as always - Stuns are your friend) and KK for the free heals to help counter all the attack tile damage you take.

    I think I used Hood/LCap/Cage to beat that node, but took a couple tries to get a decent board.
  • deatheats wrote:
    Stuck on Simulation 37. Level 324 IF/X-Force/BP is kicking my butt.
    Losing 1000 pts every turn due to IF's attack tile is just too much to handle.

    I've got about 25 maxed 3*s but I just haven't been able to find the right combo.

    Any suggestions?

    loki/hood/cage

    Kill IF > XF > BP

    Cage will negate some of the damage coming in and if you give the AI all the non TeamUp 4 matches then they will never have enough ap to do anything.
  • deatheats
    deatheats Posts: 13
    edited June 2015
    Thanks for the suggestions guys. I'll give it a shot a let you know how it went.

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    Edit:
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    It worked fellas, thanks again, in fact I just finished the Gauntlet thanks to everyone's help here!
  • DrNitroman
    DrNitroman Posts: 966 Critical Contributor
    DrNitroman wrote:
    edit: in Torch essentials, I used
    XF/Loki/Torch against Starlord/Kingpin/Hood
    XF/Loki/Torch against ProfX/4Thor/Fury
    Indeed, AP steal + Flame Jet work well against slow enemy character.
    Now, only the 3 last Mystique/IW essentials remaining, all 395 lvl.


    Just beat node 42 as well with LCap140/Hood110/Loki140. HB/DP/LThor were all around lvl 320. Took down DP first, then HB, then LThor last.
    I too was worried about having only LCap for offence, but AP denial from Hood & Loki really were key to victory. AI had a Fury purpleflag.png TU which they used, but it didn't do much damage and I had Loki Trickery at the ready to convert the Strike tile into a Protect tile for me had it resolved (which it didn't as the silly AI matched it away). Otherwise, the AI didn't fire a single ability.
    It was suspenseful, as DP was collecting a lot of purple just before I downed him, and then I had to keep the Cap stuns fueled lest LThor get off a ThunderStrike, but it worked out and it was great!

    Now...onto the Essentials. Not looking forward to those....

    Congrats! icon_e_biggrin.gif
      IIRC, I used Lcap+Hood too against Gorgon/Dino/Hulk, aiming Hulk in third when I had plenty of stuns; for the 2nd node I followed dkffiv's advices and won with Hulk/Patch + many +% damage boost (I was almost successful with Hulk/LThor) For Ultron, I didn't really try and whaled them (at the third attempt!)
    Good luck! icon_e_wink.gif
  • BlackIC
    BlackIC Posts: 65 Match Maker
    MPQ:
    What is the deal with The Gauntlet challenge with Ultron + Loki + She-Hulk? It is complete luck, not skill, in order to complete this node. Board layout is a big deal. Usually after turn 2, She-Hulk is already Furious Charging or Loki is shifting tiles around. I either have no AP or Loki shifted an Ultron bomb tile to the bottom or close to the bottom. This reminds me of the Ultron challenge that recently passed...
  • SnagglePuss
    SnagglePuss Posts: 702 Critical Contributor
    BlackIC wrote:
    MPQ:
    What is the deal with The Gauntlet challenge with Ultron + Loki + She-Hulk? It is complete luck, not skill, in order to complete this node. Board layout is a big deal. Usually after turn 2, She-Hulk is already Furious Charging or Loki is shifting tiles around. I either have no AP or Loki shifted an Ultron bomb tile to the bottom or close to the bottom. This reminds me of the Ultron challenge that recently passed...

    I had Loki shift 2 bombs to the bottom in one cast...
    Just to rub it in they were both blue and sitting next to each other.

    That was fun