*** Vision (Android Avenger) ***

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  • Mitchjewitz
    Mitchjewitz Posts: 84 Match Maker
    Reed doesn't need to tank to be effective. And since he and obw share 2 colors, it only works if reed is weak in levels.
  • hopper1979
    hopper1979 Posts: 565 Critical Contributor
    I would want him to tank because he can self heal, with this glitch you don't need to match vision tiles any more, he is your main damage dealer so if Richards is taking most of the damage and healing himself you are maximizing every-bodies powers and the damage from a match especially black.
  • TxMoose
    TxMoose Posts: 4,319 Chairperson of the Boards
    the obw trick doesn't work if she doesn't tank. the trick works well though. works so well. like 1K in strike tiles. not a big deal for OML but for 2*/3*, its huge. so many ways to use him now. witch. fist. loki.
  • hopper1979
    hopper1979 Posts: 565 Critical Contributor
    She only works if it is her tile? Damn, I was looking forward to messing with that pair in the future. I finally got an OML yellow so I can use him now. He tanks everything but blue and green for the teams I have matched him and Vision on, get down a few of his black attack tiles and it is over, I did 20k to the Hulk in 1 round with a nice cascade after a Hand clap with with my Hulk in last pvp. I am serious leaning towards Vision, KK and She-Hulk for finishing the simulator. Deny-Smash-Heal-Repeat. I really hope they leave him alone, went from bottom 5 to top 10 3-stars. I am not sure if I would put him in top 5 but he is a top priority kill now.
  • stochasticism
    stochasticism Posts: 1,181 Chairperson of the Boards
    Alas, poor Vision, we hardly knew ye.
  • OneLastGambit
    OneLastGambit Posts: 1,963 Chairperson of the Boards
    He was such a good character with his bugged blue...now I can't find any use for him. He never tanks colours to take advantage of the blue his aoe is weak compared to others in his tier. His only good skill now is yellow then red and even that's only 5k
  • MarcusGraves
    MarcusGraves Posts: 495 Mover and Shaker
    Welp back to the garbage can, they care enough to fix a bug that made him good instead of actually making him good, they don't give a rat's **** about balancing anyone really, obvious when you look at XFW green still being gutted and them saying no plans to look at him at all.

    Really is the thing that pisses me off most about this dev team.
  • Crowl
    Crowl Posts: 1,580 Chairperson of the Boards
    OneLastGambit wrote:
    He was such a good character with his bugged blue...now I can't find any use for him. He never tanks colours to take advantage of the blue his aoe is weak compared to others in his tier. His only good skill now is yellow then red and even that's only 5k

    While reverting the bug would be a step too far, they should go for a compromise and change his densities so they provide a boost to his colours even if he isn't tanking them, giving him a use outside of the very narrow niche of when you are in the 3-4* transition and he is boosted.
  • Pylgrim
    Pylgrim Posts: 2,332 Chairperson of the Boards
    Crowl wrote:
    OneLastGambit wrote:
    He was such a good character with his bugged blue...now I can't find any use for him. He never tanks colours to take advantage of the blue his aoe is weak compared to others in his tier. His only good skill now is yellow then red and even that's only 5k

    While reverting the bug would be a step too far, they should go for a compromise and change his densities so they provide a boost to his colours even if he isn't tanking them, giving him a use outside of the very narrow niche of when you are in the 3-4* transition and he is boosted.

    Sadly, taking in account that he was just "improved" a couple months ago, I don't think they'll be looking at him in a good while.
  • Crowl
    Crowl Posts: 1,580 Chairperson of the Boards
    Pylgrim wrote:
    Sadly, taking in account that he was just "improved" a couple months ago, I don't think they'll be looking at him in a good while.

    Not sure why you put improved in quotes, he was definitely improved, the problem was the he wasn't fixed. icon_mrgreen.gif
  • j0nats
    j0nats Posts: 149 Tile Toppler
    Damn... now vision is back to being a bench warmer again? Why d3, whyyyy??? Maybe u guys can lower the dmg increase but keep the power as it was while bugged?
  • ammenell
    ammenell Posts: 817 Critical Contributor
    well, that was a fun ride.

    too much fun, obviously, so lets get rid of that op blue!
    now the newest member of the "who?"-tier - he needs to be an essential to see any play, not even when boosted

    nice work, focusing on the really important issues of the game.
  • Yoik
    Yoik Posts: 251 Mover and Shaker
    It’s a shame but was coming. I really enjoyed using him for the duration. Pairs well with almost anyone. A great support toon if there ever was one. Thanks for the time tho Vision. Helped me out of a few close spots .
  • Bowgentle
    Bowgentle Posts: 7,926 Chairperson of the Boards
    Come on, guys.

    I'm all against stealth nerfing, but a 3* giving you 5* match damage clearly was OP.
  • TxMoose
    TxMoose Posts: 4,319 Chairperson of the Boards
    Bowgentle wrote:
    Come on, guys.

    I'm all against stealth nerfing, but a 3* giving you 5* match damage clearly was OP.
    I agree, but 1) it was fun, 2) it could be changed to keep the bugged flavor but make it a reasonable, but strong, 3* level (or increase the cost of the blue to 8 or 9 balance it), and 3) a character with an infinity stone in his head should be waaaaay more powerful than the 'fixed' vision. unless the bug interacted with other things badly, they could have easily just cut the increased damage in half and he becomes strong, but not OP. yeah he got 5* match damage, but only for a few turns at a time.

    I enjoyed it while he was good and now have a cyke cover coming in a month or so.
  • STOPTHIS
    STOPTHIS Posts: 781 Critical Contributor
    Goodnight sweet prince.

    RIP to the fun combo of Vision/Quicksilver May 2016 - June 2016
  • Jam_Adams
    Jam_Adams Posts: 486 Mover and Shaker
    I never bothered rostering Vision.

    After I learned of the bug, it did intrigue me and I decided to roster him. I trained his powers but never put Iso into him. I think I got up to 3/1/4 or so during the time the bug lasted. the hope was that there may have been a decent fix to him that would make him worth keeping, even if that fix was somewhere between the intended Vision and the bugged Vision.

    After I learned the bug was fixed, I immediately trashed him and didn't think twice about it. I felt worse about the loss in Iso from keeping 8 covers (2,000 iso8.png) than from the fact I sold him. but then it freed up a roster slot (value - 1,000 spideycoin.png) and got over it real quick.
  • tizian2015
    tizian2015 Posts: 194 Tile Toppler
    R.I.P. Vision!

    It´s a shame, that a bug made him viable. It´s a shame to unbug him.
  • notamutant
    notamutant Posts: 855 Critical Contributor
    tizian2015 wrote:
    R.I.P. Vision!

    It´s a shame, that a bug made him viable. It´s a shame to unbug him.

    You know, it is funny, because I think Vision stinks too. Except last night, my champion 4 star team of HB, Cyclops, and JG were taken out by Vision, KK, and I think BP. I was like, what the heck, how did I lose?!
  • TxMoose
    TxMoose Posts: 4,319 Chairperson of the Boards
    notamutant wrote:
    tizian2015 wrote:
    R.I.P. Vision!

    It´s a shame, that a bug made him viable. It´s a shame to unbug him.

    You know, it is funny, because I think Vision stinks too. Except last night, my champion 4 star team of HB, Cyclops, and JG were taken out by Vision, KK, and I think BP. I was like, what the heck, how did I lose?!
    vision/kk is still viable for keeping a team healed. and vision may have tanked red/blue on that team, so blue still did some with the right board. and kk and panther are very good damage/ap characters. one cascade at the wrong time and i can see it.

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