**** Professor X (Charles Xavier) ****

Polares

Phaserhawk wrote:

Polares wrote:

notamutant wrote:

If you want to see Master Plan abuse in action, watch my youtube video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joaZxU5Hu0w

Wow! Look how a 2*, 3* and 4* can play together to obliterate a team

So, as long as Mystique it is not featured in a PVP we are safe? I suppose you can do the same with MNMags and Mystique going way slower, so that is why they don't care to much about this combo. GSBW & ProfX is scarier (you can use them everywhere), but it is more difficult to pull, and you are going to need more time.

So a question for all, is IF + XForce or XForce + 4Thor still the top teams?

In PvP? Absolutely. I mean X-Force alone can obliterate that entire team faster than they would by themselves.

Xavier--9590
Mystique--5950
Magento--3920

Yeah I'm not too worried about those hit points. Hell if you just ran Cage/IF you could get enough black quickly enough to blow up Mystique, who, is the **** pin to the whole thing. On defense the AI is terrible, but Mystique's blue can still randomly create purple and black matches causing some big damage, but with her dead you don't have anything to worry about from the AI.

I'm still not sure this is faster than Xor, because if you fully boosted in either one, 4hor is just 2-3 matches from destroing your team, and Xforce is one green from expoding someone as well. And as you said it's not even an issue in PvP except for the first Xavier event and then the 1/30-40 PvP where Mystique is featured. If they ever create a 4* PvP now maybe there is a problem. Where MnMags/Mystique/Xavier is going to shine is in PvE, you could start seeing some big scaling in PvE like to pre-nerf Spidy and Mags days since once this goes off you don't take any damage.

Maybe the Devs wanted the lvl 395 guys to get a workout and decided to go for this.

But in PvE you can do allmost the same with MnMags/Mystique, with ProfX everything is faster but it is not 'essential' (you saw what I did there ). There are a lot of good teams for PvE, Blade, Cap and Falcon are monsters against goons, and with IF, XForce, LCage and 4Thor you can win allmost anyone in Gauntlet.

And as someone said, Devs seem to care less about OP if it is only in PvE, where scaling is so dependant on your rooster and even a team with 50 lvl chars will win faster than a veteran player.

Marc_Spector

JCTthe3rd81 wrote:

would it be possible to get reading lists for older characters? Like Hood. A lot of players never even heard of him before this game. I only know the little from Avengers and Dark Reign series, (which I finally finished a couple months ago).

The Hood's a relatively new and surprisingly cheap character to get caught-up on! Outside of his various appearances in NewAvengers, his only key storylines (in reading order) are:

"The Hood - Blood From Stones" (his origin)

"Beyond!", involving a group of heroes & villains being transported for reasons unknown to Battleworld, from Secret Wars (a good but not particularly essential story)

then, all of his various appearances in New Avengers (particularly TPB vol.7, "The Trust") in which The Hood builds his criminal empire

followed by "Dark Reign - The Hood"

and sometime later, a particularly inessential and forgettable story in Avengers by Bendis/Romita vol.2, in which the Hood gets a few of the infinity gems and gets into a prolonged and unexciting fight with the Avengers.

since then, his only appearance IIRC has been in the quite funny Hood/YoungAvengers story running through "Original Sins", the companion book to the recent "Original Sin" event.

enjoy!

simonsez

So.... is there any reason now why we would still want this chump?

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simonsez wrote:

So.... is there any reason now why we would still want this chump?

Who knows. Maybe in a few hours they change yellow to "1ap: kill opponent's team"

simonsez

ark123 wrote:

Who knows. Maybe in a few hours they change yellow to "1ap: kill opponent's team"

They might, but then they'd change it to "give your opponent a cute kitten" after we buy the 4 extra covers to max it.

scottee

The balance changes to Winfinite are a good reason why when I'm thinking builds, I try to make the best overall character for all situations, not just a specific pairing. That's why I'm think 5/3/5, because purple is situational, and I'd rather have both passives maxed as they can be used by other characters in any situation.

Unknown

scottee wrote:

The balance changes to Winfinite are a good reason why when I'm thinking builds, I try to make the best overall character for all situations, not just a specific pairing. That's why I'm think 5/3/5, because purple is situational, and I'd rather have both passives maxed as they can be used by other characters in any situation.

Not sure how much it matters now... he's basically lost the one team comp that made him remotely worthwhile. (as a 4* anyway. He's about as much use as a 3* otherwise)

Unknown

scottee wrote:

The balance changes to Winfinite are a good reason why when I'm thinking builds, I try to make the best overall character for all situations, not just a specific pairing. That's why I'm think 5/3/5, because purple is situational, and I'd rather have both passives maxed as they can be used by other characters in any situation.

He's 4* falcon now. The best pairing for his blue is 3* thor for the yellow, pretty much. He's now about on par with elektra.

scottee

He still pairs well with anyone who has cheap abilities or board shake.

Loki purple serves both purposes. Iron Fist purple serves both purposes. Psylocke has two cheap abilities. Devil Dino has 1 really cheap and 2 medium. Punisher's abilities work very well off of X's yellow, and gives more strike tiles to buff. Daken blue wrecks face with X's yellow maxed.

No, he doesn't fit into most people's playstyle of collect AP-push win button, but that doesn't mean he's weak. People just need to learn to play strategic with their tiles. I STILL easy push all easy and medium nodes with Daken/Psy/Falcon, yet no one talks about them. Because that's not a playstyle people have built up skills in using.

Unknown

My Hood reading list is basically:

The Hood miniseries - Introduction of the character and origin story. In his first couple of appearances, Hood is more of an anti-hero than a villain.

New Avengers (vol 1) #33-60 (Beyond! is pretty skippable imo). When Bendis grabbed the character for New Avengers, we see the intimidation-focused criminal that matches (hah) the character in MPQ. The only problem is that The Hood's story runs through these issues as a primary storyline while Secret Invasion and Dark Reign go on as a secondary storyline, so the Hood stories are all tied up with the "Event" stories - I can't recommend something to catch up on The Hood without the tie-in storylines if you aren't interested in them

Unknown

Professor X is much stronger now after the nerf to Mystique/Magneto because this means there is a good chance his ability survives intact as opposed to having his blue immediately nerfed to the ground the moment anyone had some time to use him with Mystique + Magneto.

Nobody is going to unseat X Force anytime soon, but he's an interesting choice for #2. His blue is now a 'win more' ability as there's no way guaranteed firing it but the abilities that have a high probability of firing it tends to all be the strongest abilities already. For example, in a free form event you might want to run X Force, Loki, and Professor X. X Force, Surgical Strike, and Illusions all have a very good chance of creating match 5s which allows you to win more. He'd be very weak without a board shaker though a team without a board shaker is by definition very weak unless it has The Hood (only high end character who generates significant AP without shaking the board).

Unknown

Humorizing :

D3 should have read more about Professor X before announcing him.

They would have saved us a nerf, and I would not have started the current PvE, where I already have burnt 2000 HP because of scaling.

Thank you !

simonsez

Phantron wrote:

Professor X is much stronger now after the nerf to Mystique/Magneto because this means there is a good chance his ability survives intact as opposed to having his blue immediately nerfed to the ground the moment anyone had some time to use him with Mystique + Magneto.

In other words, this round of nerfs leave you confident they know what they're doing? Interesting perspective. Personally, I no longer trust them to do or not do anything sensible.

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arktos1971 wrote:

Humorizing :

D3 should have read more about Professor X before announcing him.

They would have saved us a nerf, and I would not have started the current PvE, where I already have burnt 2000 HP because of scaling.

Thank you !

What, you don't think d3p strives to be like Prof X in all things?

CrookedKnight wrote:

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simonsez wrote:

Phantron wrote:

Professor X is much stronger now after the nerf to Mystique/Magneto because this means there is a good chance his ability survives intact as opposed to having his blue immediately nerfed to the ground the moment anyone had some time to use him with Mystique + Magneto.

In other words, this round of nerfs leave you confident they know what they're doing? Interesting perspective. Personally, I no longer trust them to do or not do anything sensible.

This isn't about what's sensible or fair. You can either break up the infinite combo at the source (Mag + Mystique) or how it does damage (Professor X). Because this combination is going to be overwhelmingly broken you can be pretty sure one of those two is going to go so without knowing the nerf for Mag + Mystique you're looking at 50/50 odds whether Professor X survives the next round of nerfs. Now that we know Mag + Mystique took one for the team chances are Professor X will escape the nerf, and regardless of whether you think Professor X is under/overpowered, he's only going to be even less playable had he took a nerf intended for Mag/Mystique. Now Professor X sits solidly in the 'no idea how this character will turn out' range as opposed to 'no way this character escapes a nerf' range.

OzarkBoatswain

Has anybody considered Prof. X + 2* Hawkeye? Match-5 to do serious damage, twice over.

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Ozark Boatswain wrote:

Has anybody considered Prof. X + 2* Hawkeye? Match-5 to do serious damage, twice over.

You would need a reliable way to make match 5s.

Maybe add Grey Suit Black Widow to that team and you're looking at a fairly decent PVE team.

Unknown

Many if not all of those Master Plan abuses don't require an under leveled Prof. X to be performed in PVP, where the only way you can bring Hulk/Patch/Professor X is during a Hulk or Patch event. 166 boosted to 249 has higher match damage than a 4* (still).

PvE is another story, but if you look at the +30 level boosts you could put Prof X at that level of match damage, whatever a 196 is. Then anytime the pair is boosted you can use the combo.

MNM/Prof X/? is going to either need a very strong good power on ? highest color or a decent blue power for all the blue AP Prof X is going to generate.

simonsez

Phantron wrote:

Now Professor X sits solidly in the 'no idea how this character will turn out' range

I'd put the entire roster into this category, since it's clear they have no plan and no idea what they're doing.

Phaserhawk

Well, after the recent Mystique, IF, Mags changes there looks to be only a few good ways to abuse the blue now.

LThor
Hulk/Patch
BWGS

I'm not too sure BWGS will stay in her form too long with the placeable purple at the rate they are going. I do think this is close to the speed of Mystique/MNMags just because if you can get her purple off into a Sniper Rifle you will take down people fairly quickly, and if you keep her as strongest color you should be able to get 8 purple AP back from Xavier because you can usually get 2 match 5's with her.

I'm now trying to figure the best way to abuse his yellow, the simplest one being Devil Dino/Star Lord