**** Professor X (Charles Xavier) ****

Phaserhawk

GrumpySmurf1002 wrote:

It's not sustainable like winfinite, but it will (theoretically) kill any non-4Thor team in 4 turns on all but the worst boards.

Maybe not, but a Sniper Rifle is essentially 3 Master Plan damage right there and you don't have to go through the combo 3 times so it does have it's benefits. I did forget about Ms. Marvel creating TU's but don't think there's much chance of anything there. I do think Mystique/Iron Fist may be a thing

CrookedKnight

I tested it last night with IW as part of a low-level team against Prologue Ragnarok. After her two allies died IW was definitely not taking any damage - she did about 3K through match damage without her life dropping by a single point before Rags finally got a lucky cascade and wiped the floor with her.

dkffiv

ShionSinX wrote:

Were you checking her HP? Maybe a visual bug does not show the damage numbers because she should be 'invulnarable' but she could be having her HP reduced directly in the bar.

What CrookedKnight said is what I recall experiencing. Its incredibly difficult to set up Invis Woman as the last woman standing because Invisibility costs so damn much and you want to bring weak characters that you can kill off. First time I tried it Rag killed Invis Woman within a few turns from cascades, second time the invis tile decided to place itself on the one yellow tile in the center 2 columns, promptly getting destroyed by a Rag green.

notamutant

Phaserhawk wrote:

GrumpySmurf1002 wrote:

It's not sustainable like winfinite, but it will (theoretically) kill any non-4Thor team in 4 turns on all but the worst boards.

Maybe not, but a Sniper Rifle is essentially 3 Master Plan damage right there and you don't have to go through the combo 3 times so it does have it's benefits. I did forget about Ms. Marvel creating TU's but don't think there's much chance of anything there. I do think Mystique/Iron Fist may be a thing

When fooling around with my Prof X last night, I did some experimenting, not a lot. It may have just been a bad board, but Iron Fist and Mystique with Prof X didn't do as well as I would have expected compared to Magneto and Mystique. You can see my Iron First videos on the same account to see how he can be abused just as easily, but I feel like Prof X was MUCH faster, as you can see from the video I posted. It was boosted though, but still, like how much damage was that, 50k in 2 minutes? Makes XForce and Thor look like a joke.

Unknown

raziel777 wrote:

Something like this happened in D3:
- Hey, let's check what players think about "Unknown".
- They are crazy, they discuss something about him together with 2*(!) and 3* chars...
- Out of curiosity: let's check this.
- WOW, it's so broken... Where were the testers? WAIT, WE ARE THE TESTERS!
- Do some quick change with, not sure, maybe yellow? Make it weak, There is no time with proper balancing, not that we are good with it anyway
- What do we tell our boss about last-minute tweak?
- Something like: we tested all chars combination till the end and there was a need to do so

My version:

Boss: OMG THE MARVEL REPS ARE VISITING TOMORROW!!!! WE NEED TO MAKE EVERYTHING LOOK NICE!!!!

Dev who made revamped Loki/Doom/Rocket&Groot/Luke Cage: But...it's not balanced

Boss: WHO CARES ABOUT BALANCE??? JUST RELEASE THE KRUTACKING CHARACTER! MARVEL IS VISITING TOMORROW!

----

Marvel Exec: Wow Iron Fist pairs cool with Luke Cage, awesome!

Boss: Yeah and we're releasing professor X soon yo!

Marvel Exec: Hmm....does he have protect tiles?

Boss: *Sweats Nervously*

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onimus wrote:

SolidQ wrote:

onimus wrote:

Classic D3.

They made 3* better than latest 3 of 3 4* characters. I don't understand devs

Right?

I don't know how they make Iron Fist a 3 star, then release Starlord, Elektra and Xavier in their current states.

It's pretty obvious since X-Force is so powerful, it'd be unimaginable to release a 4* that powerful unless they just made Juggernaut 4* so they've stopped trying. jk

Elektra I at least think is interesting. The rest seem to be "we have to hit a deadline" characters.

dider152

notamutant wrote:

If you want to see Master Plan abuse in action, watch my youtube video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joaZxU5Hu0w

How do you have him already? It's not even the end of the first day of the event.

notamutant

dider152 wrote:

notamutant wrote:

If you want to see Master Plan abuse in action, watch my youtube video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joaZxU5Hu0w

How do you have him already? It's not even the end of the first day of the event.

Magic! That is an alternate sandboxed account I use to play around with. Took about 300k hp to get all of his covers in packs and then to buy the rest once I unlocked one of each.

ClydeFrog76

notamutant wrote:

If you want to see Master Plan abuse in action, watch my youtube video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joaZxU5Hu0w

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Unknown

notamutant wrote:

If you want to see Master Plan abuse in action, watch my youtube video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joaZxU5Hu0w

Bwaahhahaha this makes xforce / 4hor look like a couple of scrubs. A lot of button tapping needed but can't beat a flawless victory.

AXP_isme

If you add Starlord in to the mix then when 'everyone with me' is out it improves the sustainability and he also leads with purple without needing an under levelled prof X. There wouldn't be a good blue outlet if you used MMN but for GSBW if you could get 2 match 5s you'd only need to pick up 1 more purple before you could repeat the trick. Boosted you could probably get a turn 3 sniper rifle. On the Downside, it would be tricky to protect the CD for any length of time.

Unknown

The funny part is that having any yellow covers actually gets in the way of winfinite more than helps, since you won't be getting hit to make the protect tiles useful, and you can't overwrite protect tiles with mnmags purple.

I suspect his ideal build for the only think I can think of using him for is 5-5-0 (also no yellow animation, whatever that is)

simonsez

ark123 wrote:

I suspect his ideal build for the only think I can think of using him for is 5-5-0 (also no yellow animation, whatever that is)

I thought about that too, but if he's underleveled that much, it'd be a lot harder to bring his purple into play, if you ever wanted to use him in a different situation. Even though board manipulation is his best use, I'd still like the option of doing something else with him, so I think I'm willing to live with the protect tile generation at 3y

IamTheDanger

These reading lists are awesome. Please, sir, may we have some more?

I would like to know, however, if it's possible, or if there's any chance it might happen, but would it be possible to get reading lists for older characters? Like Hood for example. A lot of players never even heard of him before this game. I only know the little from Avengers and Dark Reign series, (which I finally finished a couple months ago).

Thanks again for the lists.

Phaserhawk

The only thing is that it did take awhile, I think 4hor/Xforce would have had the game won before then. 1 Thor Smite is equal to 3 or more Xavier Master Plan's.

I was thinking last night though, the only purpose for Xavier's blue is to do exactly this, and I think the Devs knew that, I mean if there were no tile creator's in the game his blue would be ****, furthermore I almost think they wanted this combo ala the love triangle you have in X-Men First Class and the sequel between Magneto/Raven(Mystique)/and Xavier.

Essentially this is a new 3 person lockdown just like C.Mags/Patch was a 2 person lockdown and considering that MnMags/Mystique/Xavier have very low hitpoints this will not be doing anything in PvP, which is all the devs really care about, so lets keep coming up with cool abuses.

Unknown

Phaserhawk wrote:

considering that MnMags/Mystique/Xavier have very low hitpoints this will not be doing anything in PvP

Also the only places where this could be used in PvP would be the SHIELD sim, the PvP after the Hunt with Xavier featured and those where Mystique is featured and, as you already said, it would still be too slow when compared with Xor.

simonsez

Kappei wrote:

it would still be too slow when compared with Xor.

After watching that video of Prof in action, I don't think speed is a problem.

Polares

notamutant wrote:

If you want to see Master Plan abuse in action, watch my youtube video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joaZxU5Hu0w

Wow! Look how a 2*, 3* and 4* can play together to obliterate a team

So, as long as Mystique it is not featured in a PVP we are safe? I suppose you can do the same with MNMags and Mystique going way slower, so that is why they don't care to much about this combo. GSBW & ProfX is scarier (you can use them everywhere), but it is more difficult to pull, and you are going to need more time.

So a question for all, is IF + XForce or XForce + 4Thor still the top teams?

Unknown

It's true, IW can invisibilize anyone. So on paper, she has that advantage over Charlie. They should change her power so that it's tied to a countdown tile but makes the whole team invisible. Now that would be 4*.

Phaserhawk

Polares wrote:

notamutant wrote:

If you want to see Master Plan abuse in action, watch my youtube video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joaZxU5Hu0w

Wow! Look how a 2*, 3* and 4* can play together to obliterate a team

So, as long as Mystique it is not featured in a PVP we are safe? I suppose you can do the same with MNMags and Mystique going way slower, so that is why they don't care to much about this combo. GSBW & ProfX is scarier (you can use them everywhere), but it is more difficult to pull, and you are going to need more time.

So a question for all, is IF + XForce or XForce + 4Thor still the top teams?

In PvP? Absolutely. I mean X-Force alone can obliterate that entire team faster than they would by themselves.

Xavier--9590
Mystique--5950
Magento--3920

Yeah I'm not too worried about those hit points. Hell if you just ran Cage/IF you could get enough black quickly enough to blow up Mystique, who, is the **** pin to the whole thing. On defense the AI is terrible, but Mystique's blue can still randomly create purple and black matches causing some big damage, but with her dead you don't have anything to worry about from the AI.

I'm still not sure this is faster than Xor, because if you fully boosted in either one, 4hor is just 2-3 matches from destroing your team, and Xforce is one green from expoding someone as well. And as you said it's not even an issue in PvP except for the first Xavier event and then the 1/30-40 PvP where Mystique is featured. If they ever create a 4* PvP now maybe there is a problem. Where MnMags/Mystique/Xavier is going to shine is in PvE, you could start seeing some big scaling in PvE like to pre-nerf Spidy and Mags days since once this goes off you don't take any damage.

Maybe the Devs wanted the lvl 395 guys to get a workout and decided to go for this.

Unknown

simonsez wrote:

ark123 wrote:

I suspect his ideal build for the only think I can think of using him for is 5-5-0 (also no yellow animation, whatever that is)

I thought about that too, but if he's underleveled that much, it'd be a lot harder to bring his purple into play, if you ever wanted to use him in a different situation. Even though board manipulation is his best use, I'd still like the option of doing something else with him, so I think I'm willing to live with the protect tile generation at 3y

Oh I don't think I'm ever using his purple unless I end up making two of him and maxing him. I fully intend on keeping mine at base level for pve purposes (scaling and hiding him behind mystique)