Anniversary Tokens - Combined Arms and Venom: Heroic

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Small bracket lightning rounds have been the best.

Let's hope they stick to smaller brackets (though perhaps not 20, that would be greedy, but 50/100/200 perhaps).

Spoit

Honestly, even without the tokens, they're still amazing. I just broke 100k from these LRs alone

HailMary

Pylgrim wrote:

So Ice, have 2 people got the progression reward at all? Since making the progression reward an Ann token was purportedly the "compensation" for the missed tokens in the previous events, I'm not sure that anyone has yet been compensated.

1. Yes, at least 2 people from my alliance have hit the 500 progression token at least once so far.

2. The progression reward was not the sole compensation for the missed tokens. Awarding Anniversary tokens for top-25% LR placement was also part of the compensation, and that's not even considering the mind-boggling insanity of transforming everyone-in-one-giant-facepunch-pit LRs into events with literally the smallest brackets that have ever existed - smaller brackets than even the "Elite" events with HP buy-ins.

The 500 progression token barely even matters. Having 24 back-to-back, timezone-agnostic opportunities to get 1+ Anniversary tokens for beating only 15 other random players ranges from "quite a nice gesture" to "utterly massive coup."

Pylgrim

HailMary wrote:

Pylgrim wrote:

So Ice, have 2 people got the progression reward at all? Since making the progression reward an Ann token was purportedly the "compensation" for the missed tokens in the previous events, I'm not sure that anyone has yet been compensated.

1. Yes, at least 2 people from my alliance have hit the 500 progression token at least once so far.

2. The progression reward was not the sole compensation for the missed tokens. Awarding Anniversary tokens for top-25% LR placement was also part of the compensation, and that's not even considering the mind-boggling insanity of transforming everyone-in-one-giant-facepunch-pit LRs into events with literally the smallest brackets that have ever existed - smaller brackets than even the "Elite" events with HP buy-ins.

The 500 progression token barely even matters. Having 24 back-to-back, timezone-agnostic opportunities to get 1+ Anniversary tokens for beating only 15 other random players ranges from "quite a nice gesture" to "utterly massive coup."

I have no complaints about the LRs themselves, they're great. But are you saying that these LRs -purportedly the highest point of the Anniversary Week- did not initially grant Anniversary tokens at all? I don't believe it. The way the opening post is worded it sounds as the added "compensatory" tokens were the progression ones. Anyway, it is all good, two of the most hardcore players in one of the most hardcore alliances got them once. We all feel vicariously compensated now.

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My guess - the award structure used to be like the regular LR reward structure (2xAnn. Token, 1xAnn. Token, 2x Heroic, 1x Heroic), only with Anniversary tokens and they changed it to the current one.

loroku

My record so far: top 15, 15, 20, 10, 15, 10, 10, 15, 20, 20 (0 for 10)

Sorry you sold your Daken, Cryptobrancus. Another observation: I think my "lightning round MMR" must be going up because I never see seed teams that don't have at least one level 40 on them anymore. For about 3 LRs now the lowest I've seen are upper 20s to 40s.

Semi-related: so I finally pulled a Dino from what will likely be my 2nd-to-last anniversary pack. (PvP weekly rewards gives one to everyone, so that will be my last.) They've already said Dino is a limited-offer character; for a transistioning-to-2* person, think I should probably just go ahead and sell him? It's a roster slot waster that I have zero chance of upgrading until over 300 days from now. What are other people doing who don't have a 3 color Dino?

Bowgentle

loroku wrote:

Semi-related: so I finally pulled a Dino from what will likely be my 2nd-to-last anniversary pack. (PvP weekly rewards gives one to everyone, so that will be my last.) They've already said Dino is a limited-offer character; for a transistioning-to-2* person, think I should probably just go ahead and sell him? It's a roster slot waster that I have zero chance of upgrading until over 300 days from now. What are other people doing who don't have a 3 color Dino?

You don't sell characters that are 3* or higher - ever.
Invest in extra roster slots, even if this means buying HP with cash. It's worth it in the long run.
You'll have the problem of running out of roster space every two weeks when a new character is released.

loroku

Bowgentle wrote:

You don't sell characters that are 3* or higher - ever.

You speak as if roster slots grew on trees, my friend.

Latest result: 20 of 20! I have chosen to realign my expectations. You see: it's not that I'm a failure; rather: I'm an altruist - a community supporter! By continually participating and losing, I'm helping others achieve their goals!

It's alright. *sniff* Knowing that statistically at least 3% of the people I've helped will get a purple Devil Dino cover, and can see his glorious tiny hands waving in the air - that is really thanks enough. *wipes happy tear from eye*

scottee

loroku wrote:

Bowgentle wrote:

You don't sell characters that are 3* or higher - ever.

You speak as if roster slots grew on trees, my friend.

Latest result: 20 of 20! I have chosen to realign my expectations. You see: it's not that I'm a failure; rather: I'm an altruist - a community supporter! By continually participating and losing, I'm helping others achieve their goals!

It's alright. *sniff* Knowing that statistically at least 3% of the people I've helped will get a purple Devil Dino cover, and can see his glorious tiny hands waving in the air - that is really thanks enough. *wipes happy tear from eye*

We are all appreciative of helpers such as these! As a member of those who walk upon the backs of others to climb to the top, I salute you.

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loroku wrote:

My record so far: top 15, 15, 20, 10, 15, 10, 10, 15, 20, 20 (0 for 10)

Sorry you sold your Daken, Cryptobrancus. Another observation: I think my "lightning round MMR" must be going up because I never see seed teams that don't have at least one level 40 on them anymore. For about 3 LRs now the lowest I've seen are upper 20s to 40s.

Semi-related: so I finally pulled a Dino from what will likely be my 2nd-to-last anniversary pack. (PvP weekly rewards gives one to everyone, so that will be my last.) They've already said Dino is a limited-offer character; for a transistioning-to-2* person, think I should probably just go ahead and sell him? It's a roster slot waster that I have zero chance of upgrading until over 300 days from now. What are other people doing who don't have a 3 color Dino?

I have done 4 last minute attempts when I couldn't play. On the first two, my game took too long and I missed out. What I did for the last 2 times was this.

With about 30 minutes left, found a 30-35 point target and started playing. Saved 10 red and played until that was a kill shot. Left the game. Came back in the last minute. Hit the red button. Prayed my target had been climbing in the last 30 minutes.

In last minute brackets, everybody gets one win only. Top 5 in those 2 required 32 and 35 points, so you need a big target and some luck but it takes the length of your game out of the equation. Good luck.

Pylgrim

papa07 wrote:

loroku wrote:

My record so far: top 15, 15, 20, 10, 15, 10, 10, 15, 20, 20 (0 for 10)

Sorry you sold your Daken, Cryptobrancus. Another observation: I think my "lightning round MMR" must be going up because I never see seed teams that don't have at least one level 40 on them anymore. For about 3 LRs now the lowest I've seen are upper 20s to 40s.

Semi-related: so I finally pulled a Dino from what will likely be my 2nd-to-last anniversary pack. (PvP weekly rewards gives one to everyone, so that will be my last.) They've already said Dino is a limited-offer character; for a transistioning-to-2* person, think I should probably just go ahead and sell him? It's a roster slot waster that I have zero chance of upgrading until over 300 days from now. What are other people doing who don't have a 3 color Dino?

I have done 4 last minute attempts when I couldn't play. On the first two, my game took too long and I missed out. What I did for the last 2 times was this.

With about 30 minutes left, found a 30-35 point target and started playing. Saved 10 red and played until that was a kill shot. Left the game. Came back in the last minute. Hit the red button. Prayed my target had been climbing in the last 30 minutes.

In last minute brackets, everybody gets one win only. Top 5 in those 2 required 32 and 35 points, so you need a big target and some luck but it takes the length of your game out of the equation. Good luck.

What's most interesting of this to me is to learn that you are placed in a bracket at a game's end, not when you press that "Fight!" button. I had no idea.

loroku

Pylgrim wrote:

What's most interesting of this to me is to learn that you are placed in a bracket at a game's end, not when you press that "Fight!" button.

Yup. I have tried the method papa07 (and others) have suggested, and this is correct: you don't apparently get bracketed until you actually get a score (even if that score is zero, I might add - yes, I died to a low level team!). I think others have known that for a while but this is definitely still true.

papa07 wrote:

In last minute brackets, everybody gets one win only. Top 5 in those 2 required 32 and 35 points, so you need a big target and some luck but it takes the length of your game out of the equation.

And here again is the problem: I don't have a particularly high MMR so I don't ever get matched against anyone who could give me 35 points (I've seen people with 40 points win, so even 35 isn't always enough), and nor could I likely beat them even if I did. You're completely right that this is how it works, but every time I tried I still missed the top 5. And when I check the leaders? All 166 monsters. I think at this point I've proven, at least to myself: you're NOT* going to get in the top 5 in one of these LRs unless you're already a pretty solid 3* / at least maxed 2* player. I put the * there because I'm guessing it's technically possible that you could get really lucky somehow, but other than blind luck I really don't see a way to "game" the system that doesn't still favor people who are already on top. But hey: that's what PvP games are all about, really: chumming the sharks.


My record so far: top 15, 15, 20, 10, 15, 10, 10, 15, 20, 20, 20, 10, 15 (0 for 13)

17 standard tokens so far.

cg2912

loroku wrote:

Pylgrim wrote:

What's most interesting of this to me is to learn that you are placed in a bracket at a game's end, not when you press that "Fight!" button.

Yup. I have tried the method papa07 (and others) have suggested, and this is correct: you don't apparently get bracketed until you actually get a score (even if that score is zero, I might add - yes, I died to a low level team!). I think others have known that for a while but this is definitely still true.

papa07 wrote:

In last minute brackets, everybody gets one win only. Top 5 in those 2 required 32 and 35 points, so you need a big target and some luck but it takes the length of your game out of the equation.

And here again is the problem: I don't have a particularly high MMR so I don't ever get matched against anyone who could give me 35 points (I've seen people with 40 points win, so even 35 isn't always enough), and nor could I likely beat them even if I did. You're completely right that this is how it works, but every time I tried I still missed the top 5. And when I check the leaders? All 166 monsters. I think at this point I've proven, at least to myself: you're NOT* going to get in the top 5 in one of these LRs unless you're already a pretty solid 3* / at least maxed 2* player. I put the * there because I'm guessing it's technically possible that you could get really lucky somehow, but other than blind luck I really don't see a way to "game" the system that doesn't still favor people who are already on top. But hey: that's what PvP games are all about, really: chumming the sharks.


My record so far: top 15, 15, 20, 10, 15, 10, 10, 15, 20, 20, 20, 10, 15 (0 for 13)

17 standard tokens so far.

Who are you using? I would think Ares/Daken w/the loaner Thor would be enough for a quickish win--get green for strike tiles and use onslaught. if no green the red for GT.

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loroku wrote:

And here again is the problem: I don't have a particularly high MMR so I don't ever get matched against anyone who could give me 35 points (I've seen people with 40 points win, so even 35 isn't always enough), and nor could I likely beat them even if I did. You're completely right that this is how it works, but every time I tried I still missed the top 5.

MMR is irrelevant. Open with about 30 minutes left and skip till you find a 30-35 point team (this only requires about 125 points, which is doable by all rosters). It is hard to find teams worth more than that when you are at 0. The luck is in what that team does over the last 30 minutes. If they climb another 100 points, they will be worth 40+ for you. If they lose 100 points, they are no better than a seed team.

As for placing, I have done this 3 times now. First time was 38 to win, 32 for top5. Second time 43 to win, 35 for top5. Third time I did not see results, but I hit a 34 point win (originally) and finished 3rd. Again, good luck. Pulling for you to get 1 top5 out of this.

HailMary

Pylgrim wrote:

I have no complaints about the LRs themselves, they're great. But are you saying that these LRs -purportedly the highest point of the Anniversary Week- did not initially grant Anniversary tokens at all? I don't believe it. The way the opening post is worded it sounds as the added "compensatory" tokens were the progression ones.

No, I originally expected the LRs to still be massive free-for-alls that gave a 1-2 Anniversary tokens to a global T25 -- a simple token-type upgrade on an otherwise normal reward structure, just like the other Anniversary events were supposed to have been.

Before the new LR setup was announced here in the context of compensation, I saw no one consider LRs to be the highest point of Anniversary Week in any way aside from "yay, my primary Iso farm will be double-effective now." Literally no one who knew what LRs were remotely expected 20-person LR brackets. Ever.

The general obsession about the 500 prog token here in the thread is fascinatingly misguided. The OP literally never singled out the progression token from the rest of the new reward/bracketing structure. Note that Ice only updated us the 20-person brackets and new LR reward structure after his posted the OP.

Pylgrim wrote:

Anyway, it is all good, two of the most hardcore players in one of the most hardcore alliances got them once. We all feel vicariously compensated now.

Ah, apologies for assuming that was an actual question, as opposed to blatant trolling. My bad.

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To be loroku is to suffer.

cg2912

After thanking Ben Grimm yesterday on the tips for the LR, I now need to thank Pappa07. I tried your method of waiting til the end to finish the match at the buzzer and ended up 1st. Thanks. Now if only I could break my streak of 9 consecutive 2*'s from the tokens.

cg2912

I should have been more specific. If only I could break my run on anny tokens w/a USABLE 3*. D'oh.

Unknown

papa07 wrote:

MMR is irrelevant.

Apparently, I was wrong about that. I had not tried a late jump twice in a row until this last time but everybody showing up for me was at 0 points, no matter how many I skipped. So you need to get in there and play for a good chunk of time in one before trying this way again.

_RiO_

cg2912 wrote:

I should have been more specific. If only I could break my run on anny tokens w/a USABLE 3*. D'oh.

Kind of hurts when the RNG consistently screws you out of the anniversary party, doesn't it?
Same here. I atleast had the luck to get one usable 3* in a sea of 2* Cap and Moonstone...