acescracked said: Jacklag said: The game has, like, 50 5* characters and only 6 are Meta: Apoc, BRB iHulk, Kitty, Okoye and Halfthor. Professor X. Lesser extent, Carnage & Onslaught.
Jacklag said: The game has, like, 50 5* characters and only 6 are Meta: Apoc, BRB iHulk, Kitty, Okoye and Halfthor.
jredd said: sinnerjfl said: Not all characters need to be the meta, I'm fairly OK with weaker 5*'s as long as they bring something interesting or *gasp* fun.I sure wish they'd hurry on someone who counters that green menace because he has been actively ruining PVP for way too long now (Magneto seems like a super weak stab at this...) ihulk has only been ruining pvp for half a year? Bishop ruined it for well over a year before they did something about it. buckle up holmz, he's not going anywhere.
sinnerjfl said: Not all characters need to be the meta, I'm fairly OK with weaker 5*'s as long as they bring something interesting or *gasp* fun.I sure wish they'd hurry on someone who counters that green menace because he has been actively ruining PVP for way too long now (Magneto seems like a super weak stab at this...)
Borstock said: jredd said: sinnerjfl said: Not all characters need to be the meta, I'm fairly OK with weaker 5*'s as long as they bring something interesting or *gasp* fun.I sure wish they'd hurry on someone who counters that green menace because he has been actively ruining PVP for way too long now (Magneto seems like a super weak stab at this...) ihulk has only been ruining pvp for half a year? Bishop ruined it for well over a year before they did something about it. buckle up holmz, he's not going anywhere. Bishop was a puppy dog compared to iHulk. At least you could hit a Bishop team without using three healthpacks.
BigSoftieFF said: Surprised at the lackluster reception Adam is getting.I think he has a chance of being 1 of 5 or 6 essentials for higher level PvE play.
Jacklag said: acescracked said: Jacklag said: The game has, like, 50 5* characters and only 6 are Meta: Apoc, BRB iHulk, Kitty, Okoye and Halfthor. Professor X. Lesser extent, Carnage & Onslaught. I dunno. They surely have their uses, but Meta? I guess its a Meta ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) of definition. I understand that the Meta are those that form a team with so much synergy they can punch way beyond their level. So maybe Carnage paired with BRB or Kitty, but both BRB and Kitty can do their thing with other partners just as effectively or more, so the meta part is with them, not with Carnage himself. Professor X and Onslaught, maybe, if the board helps. All three are very good, I'll admit. But I don't know if they are in the meta.
ThaRoadWarrior said: BigSoftieFF said: Surprised at the lackluster reception Adam is getting.I think he has a chance of being 1 of 5 or 6 essentials for higher level PvE play. I can tell you that in his loaner stuff, he was wildly underwhelming to me, but I don't think he comes alive until you can spec him correctly, and I really think he'll come alive at very high levels, so I'm withholding judgement until deadpool and magneto drop out of latest and I can properly go after him. Mine is 1/1/1 right now.
shardwick said: Jacklag said: acescracked said: Jacklag said: The game has, like, 50 5* characters and only 6 are Meta: Apoc, BRB iHulk, Kitty, Okoye and Halfthor. Professor X. Lesser extent, Carnage & Onslaught. I dunno. They surely have their uses, but Meta? I guess its a Meta ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) of definition. I understand that the Meta are those that form a team with so much synergy they can punch way beyond their level. So maybe Carnage paired with BRB or Kitty, but both BRB and Kitty can do their thing with other partners just as effectively or more, so the meta part is with them, not with Carnage himself. Professor X and Onslaught, maybe, if the board helps. All three are very good, I'll admit. But I don't know if they are in the meta. Carnage is pretty damn meta on challenge nodes.
ThaRoadWarrior said: @BigSoftieFF I would expect having as much health as possible would be ideal for him; he seems like he does his best work in early match with high health, has that not been your experience?
BriMan2222 said: Borstock said: jredd said: sinnerjfl said: Not all characters need to be the meta, I'm fairly OK with weaker 5*'s as long as they bring something interesting or *gasp* fun.I sure wish they'd hurry on someone who counters that green menace because he has been actively ruining PVP for way too long now (Magneto seems like a super weak stab at this...) ihulk has only been ruining pvp for half a year? Bishop ruined it for well over a year before they did something about it. buckle up holmz, he's not going anywhere. Bishop was a puppy dog compared to iHulk. At least you could hit a Bishop team without using three healthpacks. Honestly, I feel the complete opposite with this. There are ways to work around ihulk. The best option for me is Brb. I used to use brb/kitty and with kitty boosting protects and bill spamming them it was effective and very little health packs used. The only problem is that it was super slow, so I switched to Brb/apocalypse and although it's not quite as safe it still is successful for me the vast majority of the time and way faster than brbitty and not overly health pack intensive as long as I don't get a bad luck board.I feel like with ihulk there are work arounds to put special tiles on green or destroy/change green tiles. He can be puzzled. Bishop on the other hand, there was no way to get around make a match with a 5 star character and get wrecked for it, other than don't use a 5 star to fight a 4 star which didn't make sense to me.
Borstock said: BriMan2222 said: Borstock said: jredd said: sinnerjfl said: Not all characters need to be the meta, I'm fairly OK with weaker 5*'s as long as they bring something interesting or *gasp* fun.I sure wish they'd hurry on someone who counters that green menace because he has been actively ruining PVP for way too long now (Magneto seems like a super weak stab at this...) ihulk has only been ruining pvp for half a year? Bishop ruined it for well over a year before they did something about it. buckle up holmz, he's not going anywhere. Bishop was a puppy dog compared to iHulk. At least you could hit a Bishop team without using three healthpacks. Honestly, I feel the complete opposite with this. There are ways to work around ihulk. The best option for me is Brb. I used to use brb/kitty and with kitty boosting protects and bill spamming them it was effective and very little health packs used. The only problem is that it was super slow, so I switched to Brb/apocalypse and although it's not quite as safe it still is successful for me the vast majority of the time and way faster than brbitty and not overly health pack intensive as long as I don't get a bad luck board.I feel like with ihulk there are work arounds to put special tiles on green or destroy/change green tiles. He can be puzzled. Bishop on the other hand, there was no way to get around make a match with a 5 star character and get wrecked for it, other than don't use a 5 star to fight a 4 star which didn't make sense to me. I rarely had a problem beating Bishop. He didnt hit hard himself. Usually he was feeding someone else's hit, and it wasn't an AoE. Apocalypse ended him completely, even before the nerf. With iHulk, I'm almost always burning through healthpacks. There are protect tile teams that can counter him, but they're slow and you're usually still vulnerable to the first turn TU cascade that breaks the match. You also can't shield hop with protect tile team, at least not in my experience. Maybe yours are higher lvl than mine and are more effective. Both metas are/were beatable, but iHulk almost always makes me pay faster with the healthpacks. Bishop, as a 4*, could be downed quickly. His "dominance", imo, was always WAY overblown.
Bzhai said: It's ridiculous that even after increasing the rate of new releases, we barely have any new 5* worth chasing. If Cyclops is another disappointment I'm not gonna bother anymore and just save my cp for the next Okoye and Apoc vault.
HoundofShadow said: Phoenix Force Cyclops is going to be anti-Okoye or iHulk. My theory 3* and 4* Cyclops are heroes and their yellow powers have something to do with teamup tiles, which increase red aps or red tiles.5* Phoenix Force Cyclops is a villian. So, he's going to do the inverse of his 3* and 4* counterpart. He's either going to destroy enemy TU ap or convert their teamup ap to other colours, or turn green tiles into red tiles. I think he will be the one to kick off the unleashing of LT and/or CP hoard this year.
Jacklag said: Beefhammer69 said: Help me out here, why does everyone keep bringing up Yellowjacket in the same conversation as characters like Apoc, Hulk, and Adam Warlock (aka: Good)? Yellowjacket has been largely trash thus far and I don’t see his usefulness skyrocketing all of a sudden, even with an interesting gimmick. Doesn’t move the needle at all for me. Infinite invisibility + high damage.
Beefhammer69 said: Help me out here, why does everyone keep bringing up Yellowjacket in the same conversation as characters like Apoc, Hulk, and Adam Warlock (aka: Good)? Yellowjacket has been largely trash thus far and I don’t see his usefulness skyrocketing all of a sudden, even with an interesting gimmick. Doesn’t move the needle at all for me.
Jacklag said: Bzhai said: It's ridiculous that even after increasing the rate of new releases, we barely have any new 5* worth chasing. If Cyclops is another disappointment I'm not gonna bother anymore and just save my cp for the next Okoye and Apoc vault. That's probably not despite, but because. With an accelerated release scheduled there is less time to plan, execute and test the new character. Besides, you used to have two to three months to hoard your tokens for a new 5* so you could cover most of them reliably. Now that a new one comes out every month, you have to be more critical of which is worth gathering or not.