Your thoughts and enthusiasm if the next 5* is weak sauce ?
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Beefhammer69 said:Help me out here, why does everyone keep bringing up Yellowjacket in the same conversation as characters like Apoc, Hulk, and Adam Warlock (aka: Good)? Yellowjacket has been largely trash thus far and I don’t see his usefulness skyrocketing all of a sudden, even with an interesting gimmick. Doesn’t move the needle at all for me.0
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Beefhammer69 said:Jacklag said:Beefhammer69 said:Help me out here, why does everyone keep bringing up Yellowjacket in the same conversation as characters like Apoc, Hulk, and Adam Warlock (aka: Good)? Yellowjacket has been largely trash thus far and I don’t see his usefulness skyrocketing all of a sudden, even with an interesting gimmick. Doesn’t move the needle at all for me.1
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Beefhammer69 said:
In today’s meta invisibility is a gimmick, and nothing more. He could go invisible from turn 1 and it really wouldn’t change anything. And I don’t know where “high damage” is coming from. Even god-boosted in PvP he hits *okay*. Onslaught on the other hand is getting no respect on this thread, and he’s exponentially better than YJ even though he’s essentially a two-power toon. I seem to be playing a different game than most.0 -
DAZ0273 said:If they make him comic book accurate then he is going to suck just like comic book Cyclops sucks. He will have a passive where he abandons your team leaving them with a baby.2
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Kross said:DAZ0273 said:If they make him comic book accurate then he is going to suck just like comic book Cyclops sucks. He will have a passive where he abandons your team leaving them with a baby.0
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100% ready for the 5* that reads "(Passive) All other passive abilities cannot be used"
Goodbye, BRB and Okoye and iHulk and so, so many other problems
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SnowcaTT said:100% ready for the 5* that reads "(Passive) All other passive abilities cannot be used"
Goodbye, BRB and Okoye and iHulk and so, so many other problems2 -
tonypq said:SnowcaTT said:100% ready for the 5* that reads "(Passive) All other passive abilities cannot be used"
Goodbye, BRB and Okoye and iHulk and so, so many other problems2 -
I really liked dictator/jerk Summers way more than suck up/boyscout Summers and thought he was awesome during the P5 storyline (unpopular opinion I know... but Cyclops was right, haters).
So if Dark Phoenix Cyke is in fact the next 5, I hope he is crazy good. I mean, I’d of said the same about an AOA Mags, but we saw how that turned out.I’m a hoarder/champ em all guy and it really does take the wind out my sails to bust a hoard for three lackluster toons after waiting for SO long. I think I last pulled in November to finish Daken/Heim/Pool (fun, but none move the needle) and will soon pull for another three that are in that same “meh” tier.So here’s hoping Cyke either counters hulk or at least does some Apoc-level damage per AP!2 -
Daredevil217 said:I really liked dictator/jerk Summers way more than suck up/boyscout Summers and thought he was awesome during the P5 storyline (unpopular opinion I know... but Cyclops was right, haters).
So if Dark Phoenix Cyke is in fact the next 5, I hope he is crazy good. I mean, I’d of said the same about an AOA Mags, but we saw how that turned out.I’m a hoarder/champ em all guy and it really does take the wind out my sails to bust a hoard for three lackluster toons after waiting for SO long. I think I last pulled in November to finish Daken/Heim/Pool (fun, but none move the needle) and will soon pull for another three that are in that same “meh” tier.So here’s hoping Cyke either counters hulk or at least does some Apoc-level damage per AP!
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Yeah, have to agree on that. Cyclops is probably my least favorite X-man. Seeing him be better than Jean as Phoenix would be annoying but I do hope he is, the bench is plenty full and warm in the 5* tier already.Old Man Phoenix would have been preferable.0
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sinnerjfl said:Not all characters need to be the meta, I'm fairly OK with weaker 5*'s as long as they bring something interesting or *gasp* fun.
I sure wish they'd hurry on someone who counters that green menace because he has been actively ruining PVP for way too long now (Magneto seems like a super weak stab at this...)
As an aside, I read a comment in this thread about iHulk being worse to play against than Bishop? Couldn't disagree more. I have no problems with Okoye/hulk using BRB/Kitty whereas Bishop and Worthy were easily the worst play experience I've ever had in this game (much worse than old 3*rags was). In fact, their nerfs are what brought me back to the game.
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I really can only think that there’s gotta be a character coming up soon that provides more utility to 5* Magneto. Doesn’t need to make him meta, but at least some sense. Because his fifth cover of blue ‘awards’ him one more round airbourne right now.
which is crazy. Why would anyone want that?I think there must be someone coming that grants some passive benefit to having airbourne allies.
like I said, it’s not going to suddenly make him the hot thing, but at least then, he won’t be totally broken.
I totally agree about Bishop being the most annoying character ever. Thank god they nerfed him. He was a huge drag.2 -
Cannibalqueen said:I really can only think that there’s gotta be a character coming up soon that provides more utility to 5* Magneto. Doesn’t need to make him meta, but at least some sense. Because his fifth cover of blue ‘awards’ him one more round airbourne right now.
which is crazy. Why would anyone want that?I think there must be someone coming that grants some passive benefit to having airbourne allies.
like I said, it’s not going to suddenly make him the hot thing, but at least then, he won’t be totally broken.
Someone was in a hurry to clock off when approving this design.0 -
Maybe we are seeing a return to “here is the support perk that completed the design” design on Magneto like we used to see in the final days of support development?
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It's just sad with the current character release schedule, seeing so many 5s being churned out that are lackluster from the get go. They don't even need a brief period of time before some are obsolete or yesterdays news, they're that way right upon release. Which is a real tough pill to swallow when a long awaited addition to 5s like Magento comes out as meh as he is, among a few others. On top of D3's reluctance to rebalance older characters with any regularity. It wouldn't be so bad if they realized how many characters they've screwed up and buffed or reworked them a bit. At the very least health/match damage on some older 5s should be adjusted for the power creep.
Each character doesn't have to be meta, but they should be able to stand on their own legs. Not forced into some oddball team to exploit the one power or so that has a hint of promise. If they're going to keep releasing meh 5s, I'd like to see D3 create a new 5* store just for classic 5s. For those who want to collect them all regardless how lousy some are to make it easier. Maybe once a while 1 or 2 of the characters might have better odds like in other stores. With how fast 5s are churned out and disappointing many of them are, it's tough wanting to blow any LL tokens on them. It would be nice to have a classic 5 only store, especially since the number of 5*s is much more robust in numbers than years past.0 -
tonypq said:It's just sad with the current character release schedule, seeing so many 5s being churned out that are lackluster from the get go. They don't even need a brief period of time before some are obsolete or yesterdays news, they're that way right upon release. Which is a real tough pill to swallow when a long awaited addition to 5s like Magento comes out as meh as he is, among a few others. On top of D3's reluctance to rebalance older characters with any regularity. It wouldn't be so bad if they realized how many characters they've screwed up and buffed or reworked them a bit. At the very least health/match damage on some older 5s should be adjusted for the power creep.
Each character doesn't have to be meta, but they should be able to stand on their own legs. Not forced into some oddball team to exploit the one power or so that has a hint of promise. If they're going to keep releasing meh 5s, I'd like to see D3 create a new 5* store just for classic 5s. For those who want to collect them all regardless how lousy some are to make it easier. Maybe once a while 1 or 2 of the characters might have better odds like in other stores. With how fast 5s are churned out and disappointing many of them are, it's tough wanting to blow any LL tokens on them. It would be nice to have a classic 5 only store, especially since the number of 5*s is much more robust in numbers than years past.2 -
tonypq said:It's just sad with the current character release schedule, seeing so many 5s being churned out that are lackluster from the get go. They don't even need a brief period of time before some are obsolete or yesterdays news, they're that way right upon release. Which is a real tough pill to swallow when a long awaited addition to 5s like Magento comes out as meh as he is, among a few others. On top of D3's reluctance to rebalance older characters with any regularity. It wouldn't be so bad if they realized how many characters they've screwed up and buffed or reworked them a bit. At the very least health/match damage on some older 5s should be adjusted for the power creep.
Each character doesn't have to be meta, but they should be able to stand on their own legs. Not forced into some oddball team to exploit the one power or so that has a hint of promise. If they're going to keep releasing meh 5s, I'd like to see D3 create a new 5* store just for classic 5s. For those who want to collect them all regardless how lousy some are to make it easier. Maybe once a while 1 or 2 of the characters might have better odds like in other stores. With how fast 5s are churned out and disappointing many of them are, it's tough wanting to blow any LL tokens on them. It would be nice to have a classic 5 only store, especially since the number of 5*s is much more robust in numbers than years past.
https://forums.d3go.com/discussion/2257/what-marvel-character-are-you-hoping-for-post-movesets/p45
With every character release, there's an opportunity with every release to support older, less playable characters. I hope we see more of that in the future.1 -
Borstock said:jredd said:sinnerjfl said:Not all characters need to be the meta, I'm fairly OK with weaker 5*'s as long as they bring something interesting or *gasp* fun.
I sure wish they'd hurry on someone who counters that green menace because he has been actively ruining PVP for way too long now (Magneto seems like a super weak stab at this...)
Bishop was a puppy dog compared to iHulk. At least you could hit a Bishop team without using three healthpacks.2 -
T_REZ5000 said:sinnerjfl said:Not all characters need to be the meta, I'm fairly OK with weaker 5*'s as long as they bring something interesting or *gasp* fun.
I sure wish they'd hurry on someone who counters that green menace because he has been actively ruining PVP for way too long now (Magneto seems like a super weak stab at this...)
As an aside, I read a comment in this thread about iHulk being worse to play against than Bishop? Couldn't disagree more. I have no problems with Okoye/hulk using BRB/Kitty whereas Bishop and Worthy were easily the worst play experience I've ever had in this game (much worse than old 3*rags was). In fact, their nerfs are what brought me back to the game.
We have 50 5*'s now and we're only using 4 because one of them has a dumb passive that works with a super easy condition to meet, can be boosted, ressurects unconditionally until he's alone on his team and he has an ability that does 37k damage for 7 AP. There is no way anyone cannot say he is not ridiculously overpowered. He has zero weaknesses also, except hurting your team and it should be a lot more than now considering how strong he is.
(yes yes, he's only strong with Okoye but they will not nerf her because she drives revenue I bet)
Regarding Magneto: Heh, he is somewhat unique, percentage based protect tile boosting which is nice. He also has a decent blue nuke, those are rare. He's not unsuable.
Regarding Adam: I think this character indeed requires constant management of his health but consider his base HP, cheap healing on yellow/purple. It's gonna be hard to get him to die honestly. I think people need to focus a lot less on his black ability and more on how tanky he is, and his very high match damage above 50%. More time is needed to fully understand how he plays out.3
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