Beefhammer69 said: Help me out here, why does everyone keep bringing up Yellowjacket in the same conversation as characters like Apoc, Hulk, and Adam Warlock (aka: Good)? Yellowjacket has been largely trash thus far and I don’t see his usefulness skyrocketing all of a sudden, even with an interesting gimmick. Doesn’t move the needle at all for me.
Beefhammer69 said: Jacklag said: Beefhammer69 said: Help me out here, why does everyone keep bringing up Yellowjacket in the same conversation as characters like Apoc, Hulk, and Adam Warlock (aka: Good)? Yellowjacket has been largely trash thus far and I don’t see his usefulness skyrocketing all of a sudden, even with an interesting gimmick. Doesn’t move the needle at all for me. Infinite invisibility + high damage. In today’s meta invisibility is a gimmick, and nothing more. He could go invisible from turn 1 and it really wouldn’t change anything. And I don’t know where “high damage” is coming from. Even god-boosted in PvP he hits *okay*. Onslaught on the other hand is getting no respect on this thread, and he’s exponentially better than YJ even though he’s essentially a two-power toon. I seem to be playing a different game than most.
Jacklag said: Beefhammer69 said: Help me out here, why does everyone keep bringing up Yellowjacket in the same conversation as characters like Apoc, Hulk, and Adam Warlock (aka: Good)? Yellowjacket has been largely trash thus far and I don’t see his usefulness skyrocketing all of a sudden, even with an interesting gimmick. Doesn’t move the needle at all for me. Infinite invisibility + high damage.
Beefhammer69 said:In today’s meta invisibility is a gimmick, and nothing more. He could go invisible from turn 1 and it really wouldn’t change anything. And I don’t know where “high damage” is coming from. Even god-boosted in PvP he hits *okay*. Onslaught on the other hand is getting no respect on this thread, and he’s exponentially better than YJ even though he’s essentially a two-power toon. I seem to be playing a different game than most.
DAZ0273 said: If they make him comic book accurate then he is going to suck just like comic book Cyclops sucks. He will have a passive where he abandons your team leaving them with a baby.
Kross said: DAZ0273 said: If they make him comic book accurate then he is going to suck just like comic book Cyclops sucks. He will have a passive where he abandons your team leaving them with a baby. I really want to be mad at this because I love Cyclops, but I must admit this comment was funny.
SnowcaTT said: 100% ready for the 5* that reads "(Passive) All other passive abilities cannot be used"Goodbye, BRB and Okoye and iHulk and so, so many other problems
tonypq said: SnowcaTT said: 100% ready for the 5* that reads "(Passive) All other passive abilities cannot be used"Goodbye, BRB and Okoye and iHulk and so, so many other problems I could imagine a 5* Scarlet Witch having an ability of that sorts, maybe a countdown tile that prevents opponents passives from firing for a certain amount of turns. Or maybe some future character gets an offensive ability kind of like Strange, that fires off dealing damage every time the opponent had one of their passives trigger. I'd certainly like to see something fun and different of the sorts.
Daredevil217 said: I really liked dictator/jerk Summers way more than suck up/boyscout Summers and thought he was awesome during the P5 storyline (unpopular opinion I know... but Cyclops was right, haters).So if Dark Phoenix Cyke is in fact the next 5, I hope he is crazy good. I mean, I’d of said the same about an AOA Mags, but we saw how that turned out. I’m a hoarder/champ em all guy and it really does take the wind out my sails to bust a hoard for three lackluster toons after waiting for SO long. I think I last pulled in November to finish Daken/Heim/Pool (fun, but none move the needle) and will soon pull for another three that are in that same “meh” tier. So here’s hoping Cyke either counters hulk or at least does some Apoc-level damage per AP!
sinnerjfl said: Not all characters need to be the meta, I'm fairly OK with weaker 5*'s as long as they bring something interesting or *gasp* fun.I sure wish they'd hurry on someone who counters that green menace because he has been actively ruining PVP for way too long now (Magneto seems like a super weak stab at this...)
Cannibalqueen said: I really can only think that there’s gotta be a character coming up soon that provides more utility to 5* Magneto. Doesn’t need to make him meta, but at least some sense. Because his fifth cover of blue ‘awards’ him one more round airbourne right now.which is crazy. Why would anyone want that?I think there must be someone coming that grants some passive benefit to having airbourne allies.like I said, it’s not going to suddenly make him the hot thing, but at least then, he won’t be totally broken.
tonypq said: It's just sad with the current character release schedule, seeing so many 5s being churned out that are lackluster from the get go. They don't even need a brief period of time before some are obsolete or yesterdays news, they're that way right upon release. Which is a real tough pill to swallow when a long awaited addition to 5s like Magento comes out as meh as he is, among a few others. On top of D3's reluctance to rebalance older characters with any regularity. It wouldn't be so bad if they realized how many characters they've screwed up and buffed or reworked them a bit. At the very least health/match damage on some older 5s should be adjusted for the power creep. Each character doesn't have to be meta, but they should be able to stand on their own legs. Not forced into some oddball team to exploit the one power or so that has a hint of promise. If they're going to keep releasing meh 5s, I'd like to see D3 create a new 5* store just for classic 5s. For those who want to collect them all regardless how lousy some are to make it easier. Maybe once a while 1 or 2 of the characters might have better odds like in other stores. With how fast 5s are churned out and disappointing many of them are, it's tough wanting to blow any LL tokens on them. It would be nice to have a classic 5 only store, especially since the number of 5*s is much more robust in numbers than years past.
Borstock said: jredd said: sinnerjfl said: Not all characters need to be the meta, I'm fairly OK with weaker 5*'s as long as they bring something interesting or *gasp* fun.I sure wish they'd hurry on someone who counters that green menace because he has been actively ruining PVP for way too long now (Magneto seems like a super weak stab at this...) ihulk has only been ruining pvp for half a year? Bishop ruined it for well over a year before they did something about it. buckle up holmz, he's not going anywhere. Bishop was a puppy dog compared to iHulk. At least you could hit a Bishop team without using three healthpacks.
jredd said: sinnerjfl said: Not all characters need to be the meta, I'm fairly OK with weaker 5*'s as long as they bring something interesting or *gasp* fun.I sure wish they'd hurry on someone who counters that green menace because he has been actively ruining PVP for way too long now (Magneto seems like a super weak stab at this...) ihulk has only been ruining pvp for half a year? Bishop ruined it for well over a year before they did something about it. buckle up holmz, he's not going anywhere.
T_REZ5000 said: sinnerjfl said: Not all characters need to be the meta, I'm fairly OK with weaker 5*'s as long as they bring something interesting or *gasp* fun.I sure wish they'd hurry on someone who counters that green menace because he has been actively ruining PVP for way too long now (Magneto seems like a super weak stab at this...) Agreed on not all characters having to be meta and that interesting/fun is good. The problem is that other than DP these 5*s aren't fun at all to me. Just look at Magneto. Not only do his powers not have synergy with each other, they actually work against each other. Invisibility on YJ is lame on offence because invisible characters can't tank. Adam Warlock is too high maintenance, constantly having to heal him in battle isn't my idea of fun.As an aside, I read a comment in this thread about iHulk being worse to play against than Bishop? Couldn't disagree more. I have no problems with Okoye/hulk using BRB/Kitty whereas Bishop and Worthy were easily the worst play experience I've ever had in this game (much worse than old 3*rags was). In fact, their nerfs are what brought me back to the game.