New Feature in R191: Shards

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  • skittledaddy
    skittledaddy Posts: 1,013 Chairperson of the Boards
    Update is live for Android
  • bluewolf
    bluewolf Posts: 6,077 Chairperson of the Boards
    And live in iOS
  • Valuk
    Valuk Posts: 6 Just Dropped In
    Thoughts so far:

    I like the general idea. But.
    It's going to take me much longer to be able to play the required nodes for new 4 and 5* characters.
    Opening elite packs takes sooooo long now.
    Shard store seems crazy expensive.
    By the time I get a single cover of a 5* to be able to do required nodes, I'll probably have drawn a cover anyway, and all those shards are wasted.
  • Xception81
    Xception81 Posts: 431 Mover and Shaker
    skittledaddy said:
    Update is live for Android
    Does Wolfsbane show up in tokens after the update? Or is she still out until next season probably?
  • Valuk
    Valuk Posts: 6 Just Dropped In
    Xception81 said:
    skittledaddy said:
    Update is live for Android
    Does Wolfsbane show up in tokens after the update? Or is she still out until next season probably?
    Does not appear in packs
  • Xception81
    Xception81 Posts: 431 Mover and Shaker
    Valuk said:
    Xception81 said:
    skittledaddy said:
    Update is live for Android
    Does Wolfsbane show up in tokens after the update? Or is she still out until next season probably?
    Does not appear in packs
    Which makes me wonder how many people are going to break their hoard of heroic tokens now, or wait. Since so many of us have been saying we mostly used BHs for (possible) shield training characters. 
  • Valuk
    Valuk Posts: 6 Just Dropped In
    Feels like the rate at which this now let's you acquire covers has been set to compliment the existence of bonus heros, and help with a bunch of problems around getting stuck on particular colours. But then if you remove bonus heroes, everything just slows right down.
  • RickOShay
    RickOShay Posts: 452 Mover and Shaker
    edited November 2019
    Xception81 said:
    Valuk said:
    Xception81 said:
    skittledaddy said:
    Update is live for Android
    Does Wolfsbane show up in tokens after the update? Or is she still out until next season probably?
    Does not appear in packs
    Which makes me wonder how many people are going to break their hoard of heroic tokens now, or wait. Since so many of us have been saying we mostly used BHs for (possible) shield training characters. 

    Each Heroic Token draw will earn you just 3 shards toward the 400 needed for a single 4* cover. 
    Until we get even more ways to earn Shards, not too many people need to be opening Heroic hoards just quite yet.
  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,541 Chairperson of the Boards
    Shards are live on iOS. I haven't seen any "freebies" push down yet. If you're looking for the shard hp offers, they are up in the HP menu where you'd purchase it with money. I currently have available:

    3* R&G - 15 shards for 35hp
    SWitch - 15 shards for 35
    Ghost - 20 for 115
    C4rnage - 20 for 115
    X23 - 20 for 115
    OML - 20 for 560

  • skittledaddy
    skittledaddy Posts: 1,013 Chairperson of the Boards
    ThaRoadWarrior said:
    Shards are live on iOS. I haven't seen any "freebies" push down yet. If you're looking for the shard hp offers, they are up in the HP menu where you'd purchase it with money. I currently have available:

    3* R&G - 15 shards for 35hp
    SWitch - 15 shards for 35
    Ghost - 20 for 115
    C4rnage - 20 for 115
    X23 - 20 for 115
    OML - 20 for 560

    I'm not a great mobile game economy mind, how do we assess if these are a decent deal or not?
  • Godzillafan67
    Godzillafan67 Posts: 665 Critical Contributor
    Valuk said:
    Thoughts so far:
    ...
    Opening elite packs takes sooooo long now.
    ...
    Yessssssss. Please make them like the other two token types with the "open a bunch of tokens and receive all shards at once" option.
  • Ed_Dragonrider
    Ed_Dragonrider Posts: 593 Critical Contributor
    edited November 2019
    skittledaddy said:

    I'm not a great mobile game economy mind, how do we assess if these are a decent deal or not?

    Pasting from page 1:

    Also, some of you have been wondering about initial Shard Shop costs. Those are as follows:


    One 4* cover (400 shards - all 20 packs) would be 4320hp if I did my sums right, so quite a bit more than a hfh deal for 3600hp. However it would be for the colour of your choice....

    It wouldn't be worth it for me.... but everyone is different, so to each their own.

  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,541 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited November 2019

    For me these are going to be maaaaaaybe sweet spots to short-circuit a number of pulls. If we assume I'll only ever pull the first offer for one of these, I'm essentially spending:

    560hp to get the shard value of 6.667 pulls from a legendary store (minus th 6.667 covers of whatever I would have landed along with the associated 4* shards, but since it's for HP this isn't a tradeoff). So it lets you trade some HP for a few days less opening tokens/cp at the 5* tier.

    115hp is comparable in price to a daily-deal offer in a featured pvp store, with 3.333 pulls worth of shards, except you are trading the random 3 covers you'd get along the way for that, some of which could conceivably be 4*s. This deal does in fact feel worse, since it's using the same buy-in currency as just getting the token directly.

    I don't know, these kind of feel like bad deals to me below 5*, and even then I'd never have that much HP all at once to get all 20 drops (which wouldn't actually be enough to get a complete cover anyway).

  • pheregas
    pheregas Posts: 1,721 Chairperson of the Boards
    I'll probably never get a 3* shard to max.   By the time my shardable 3 has enough points to get the cover, I'll probably have already earned it organically.
  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,541 Chairperson of the Boards
    pheregas said:
    I'll probably never get a 3* shard to max.   By the time my shardable 3 has enough points to get the cover, I'll probably have already earned it organically.
    3* shards are going to be for feeder levels for me. I'll just park it and never change it.
  • stef_focus
    stef_focus Posts: 128 Tile Toppler
    Does anybody know if buying a set of shards will activate the Bonus Rewards, similar to buying iso or HP? Or are bonusses only for cash buys?
  • pheregas
    pheregas Posts: 1,721 Chairperson of the Boards
    ThaRoadWarrior said:
    pheregas said:
    I'll probably never get a 3* shard to max.   By the time my shardable 3 has enough points to get the cover, I'll probably have already earned it organically.
    3* shards are going to be for feeder levels for me. I'll just park it and never change it.
    Yeah...  I'll see how that goes.  Might just park it at Hawkeye to get the 20 Kate covers I need to finally champ 5* Hawkeye.

    It used to be I'd just select whoever gave me the LT or 4* next.

    And the irony is not lost on me that I'm using 3* shards to earn a 4* to get 5* feeder covers instead of directly sharding the desired 5*.
  • RickOShay
    RickOShay Posts: 452 Mover and Shaker
    pheregas said:
    ThaRoadWarrior said:
    pheregas said:
    I'll probably never get a 3* shard to max.   By the time my shardable 3 has enough points to get the cover, I'll probably have already earned it organically.
    3* shards are going to be for feeder levels for me. I'll just park it and never change it.
    Yeah...  I'll see how that goes.  Might just park it at Hawkeye to get the 20 Kate covers I need to finally champ 5* Hawkeye.

    It used to be I'd just select whoever gave me the LT or 4* next.

    And the irony is not lost on me that I'm using 3* shards to earn a 4* to get 5* feeder covers instead of directly sharding the desired 5*.
    Not irony, that's management.
  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,541 Chairperson of the Boards
    pheregas said:
    ThaRoadWarrior said:
    pheregas said:
    I'll probably never get a 3* shard to max.   By the time my shardable 3 has enough points to get the cover, I'll probably have already earned it organically.
    3* shards are going to be for feeder levels for me. I'll just park it and never change it.
    Yeah...  I'll see how that goes.  Might just park it at Hawkeye to get the 20 Kate covers I need to finally champ 5* Hawkeye.

    It used to be I'd just select whoever gave me the LT or 4* next.

    And the irony is not lost on me that I'm using 3* shards to earn a 4* to get 5* feeder covers instead of directly sharding the desired 5*.
    I still need 7 more Miles Morales to finish up Fi5k, so I'm leaving mine on Spid3r-Man for now. I need to flip him 2 more times, so it'll be awhile lol. 3 more America Chavez covers to finish Jessica, and then I'll move it over to Miles to be done with it a little quicker. After that, I have a few decisions I want to make about where to park it.

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