New Feature in R191: Shards

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  • pheregas
    pheregas Posts: 1,721 Chairperson of the Boards
    For me, I'm going to be forced to hoard tokens that reward 4* shards (shargetting?) so that I can immediately select the newest 4 as soon as they hit tokens.  I'll probably rarely be in a position to sharget anyone but the newest 4 again.  Currently, I only BH the newest 4 until 10 covers, then expand my focus to any character at XX9 for the LTs, then un-heart them when the newest 4 enters tokens.

    This requires no hoarding.

    With the Shard system, I'll want to maximize my shard points to the newest 4 exclusively.  

    Have I ever mentioned how much I hate hoarding?  Yes.  Yes I have.
  • killahKlown
    killahKlown Posts: 583 Critical Contributor
    AWorthyCrap said:
    HoundofShadow said:
    I think one important data everyone is lacking is how most players are playing MPQ. If the devs share this piece of data, it will give us insight into how and why they design new features a certain way. The problem now is players think that every players are playing the game the same way they do. So, if the new feature is bad to them, it's bad to every players in the game.

    As mentioned, shards will be rolled out to other parts of the games and in deals. Shards progress don't stop at just pulling tokens. I thought this is pretty important, but expect even progress for shards. 
    That's a terrible assumption.  I'm going to set my targeted heroes on day 1 and likely never change them.  So "wasted shards" aren't going to be a problem for me.  But I still recognize that there are A LOT of newer players out there still trying to just get every character rostered, or every 4* where they need to be to finish S.H.I.E.L.D. training.  For those players this shard system adds a ton of unwanted complexity to roster management....and even with tons of micromanaging your roster will still lead to wasted shards.  Whether or not that affects me doesn't change the fact that it's a glaring flaw in this new system.
    Same here.  Just going to keep the same characters Targeted from day 1.  Will only change the target when one gets maxed.
  • hipUK
    hipUK Posts: 75 Match Maker
    Sorry if it's been asked: for Steam/PC users, how do we sell a character?

    The option in the UI is gone AFAICS
  • MoosePrime
    MoosePrime Posts: 969 Critical Contributor
    hipUK said:
    Sorry if it's been asked: for Steam/PC users, how do we sell a character?

    The option in the UI is gone AFAICS
    Click on the "Stats and More" button, and scroll down.
  • skittledaddy
    skittledaddy Posts: 999 Critical Contributor
    Update is live for Android
  • bluewolf
    bluewolf Posts: 5,821 Chairperson of the Boards
    And live in iOS
  • Valuk
    Valuk Posts: 6 Just Dropped In
    Thoughts so far:

    I like the general idea. But.
    It's going to take me much longer to be able to play the required nodes for new 4 and 5* characters.
    Opening elite packs takes sooooo long now.
    Shard store seems crazy expensive.
    By the time I get a single cover of a 5* to be able to do required nodes, I'll probably have drawn a cover anyway, and all those shards are wasted.
  • Xception81
    Xception81 Posts: 426 Mover and Shaker
    skittledaddy said:
    Update is live for Android
    Does Wolfsbane show up in tokens after the update? Or is she still out until next season probably?
  • Valuk
    Valuk Posts: 6 Just Dropped In
    Xception81 said:
    skittledaddy said:
    Update is live for Android
    Does Wolfsbane show up in tokens after the update? Or is she still out until next season probably?
    Does not appear in packs
  • Xception81
    Xception81 Posts: 426 Mover and Shaker
    Valuk said:
    Xception81 said:
    skittledaddy said:
    Update is live for Android
    Does Wolfsbane show up in tokens after the update? Or is she still out until next season probably?
    Does not appear in packs
    Which makes me wonder how many people are going to break their hoard of heroic tokens now, or wait. Since so many of us have been saying we mostly used BHs for (possible) shield training characters. 
  • Valuk
    Valuk Posts: 6 Just Dropped In
    Feels like the rate at which this now let's you acquire covers has been set to compliment the existence of bonus heros, and help with a bunch of problems around getting stuck on particular colours. But then if you remove bonus heroes, everything just slows right down.
  • RickOShay
    RickOShay Posts: 452 Mover and Shaker
    edited November 2019
    Xception81 said:
    Valuk said:
    Xception81 said:
    skittledaddy said:
    Update is live for Android
    Does Wolfsbane show up in tokens after the update? Or is she still out until next season probably?
    Does not appear in packs
    Which makes me wonder how many people are going to break their hoard of heroic tokens now, or wait. Since so many of us have been saying we mostly used BHs for (possible) shield training characters. 

    Each Heroic Token draw will earn you just 3 shards toward the 400 needed for a single 4* cover. 
    Until we get even more ways to earn Shards, not too many people need to be opening Heroic hoards just quite yet.
  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,455 Chairperson of the Boards
    Shards are live on iOS. I haven't seen any "freebies" push down yet. If you're looking for the shard hp offers, they are up in the HP menu where you'd purchase it with money. I currently have available:

    3* R&G - 15 shards for 35hp
    SWitch - 15 shards for 35
    Ghost - 20 for 115
    C4rnage - 20 for 115
    X23 - 20 for 115
    OML - 20 for 560

  • skittledaddy
    skittledaddy Posts: 999 Critical Contributor
    ThaRoadWarrior said:
    Shards are live on iOS. I haven't seen any "freebies" push down yet. If you're looking for the shard hp offers, they are up in the HP menu where you'd purchase it with money. I currently have available:

    3* R&G - 15 shards for 35hp
    SWitch - 15 shards for 35
    Ghost - 20 for 115
    C4rnage - 20 for 115
    X23 - 20 for 115
    OML - 20 for 560

    I'm not a great mobile game economy mind, how do we assess if these are a decent deal or not?
  • Godzillafan67
    Godzillafan67 Posts: 598 Critical Contributor
    Valuk said:
    Thoughts so far:
    ...
    Opening elite packs takes sooooo long now.
    ...
    Yessssssss. Please make them like the other two token types with the "open a bunch of tokens and receive all shards at once" option.
  • Ed_Dragonrider
    Ed_Dragonrider Posts: 593 Critical Contributor
    edited November 2019
    skittledaddy said:

    I'm not a great mobile game economy mind, how do we assess if these are a decent deal or not?

    Pasting from page 1:

    Also, some of you have been wondering about initial Shard Shop costs. Those are as follows:


    One 4* cover (400 shards - all 20 packs) would be 4320hp if I did my sums right, so quite a bit more than a hfh deal for 3600hp. However it would be for the colour of your choice....

    It wouldn't be worth it for me.... but everyone is different, so to each their own.

  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,455 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited November 2019

    For me these are going to be maaaaaaybe sweet spots to short-circuit a number of pulls. If we assume I'll only ever pull the first offer for one of these, I'm essentially spending:

    560hp to get the shard value of 6.667 pulls from a legendary store (minus th 6.667 covers of whatever I would have landed along with the associated 4* shards, but since it's for HP this isn't a tradeoff). So it lets you trade some HP for a few days less opening tokens/cp at the 5* tier.

    115hp is comparable in price to a daily-deal offer in a featured pvp store, with 3.333 pulls worth of shards, except you are trading the random 3 covers you'd get along the way for that, some of which could conceivably be 4*s. This deal does in fact feel worse, since it's using the same buy-in currency as just getting the token directly.

    I don't know, these kind of feel like bad deals to me below 5*, and even then I'd never have that much HP all at once to get all 20 drops (which wouldn't actually be enough to get a complete cover anyway).

  • pheregas
    pheregas Posts: 1,721 Chairperson of the Boards
    I'll probably never get a 3* shard to max.   By the time my shardable 3 has enough points to get the cover, I'll probably have already earned it organically.
  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,455 Chairperson of the Boards
    pheregas said:
    I'll probably never get a 3* shard to max.   By the time my shardable 3 has enough points to get the cover, I'll probably have already earned it organically.
    3* shards are going to be for feeder levels for me. I'll just park it and never change it.

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