Ascended Winners and Losers

If you're like me, you've been waiting for these 2 (all powers at 5):

2-5 Headpool level 454

• Health: 51,415

• Black (passive): When dealing match damage, heal 200% of damage done and gain 30% bonus match damage.

• Pink (passive): Start of turn create a red trap tile that deals 22,953 when YOUR team causes it to leave the board.
• Red (6AP): Deal 18,548 damage and create a red attack tile with strength equal to Headpool's current average match damage (including bonus damage).

3-5 Devpool level 450

• Health: 72,645

• Yella:
  6AP: Deal 9,936 to target plus 18% damage they've done that battle
  Passive: When he uses an ability, heal team for 1,264 and give 1AP

• Green:
  6AP: Cast random ability from below:

1. Send target away for 4-6 turns
2. Make your abilities 1 cheaper and enemies 1 more expensive
3. Create multiple 2-turn countdowns that: that heal you for 3,918 OR damage enemy for 3,918 OR fire a random ability.
   Passive: Recover health 100 times faster out of battle

• Pink:
  8AP: Reduce chosen enemy max health and damage by 18% or buff a chosen teammates by 18%
  Passive: Get every affiliation

Also just in case:
3-4 Namor has roughly 21k health at level 320. His black still only costs 5 and the percentage damage to random enemy is still 125.

All info pulled from 1st commander in Variants of Time; thanks for the crazy roster.

@BriMan2222 said:

Huh, they upped his pink mana cost back from 9 to 12 in his 5 star version… lame!!

How is that handled with Main Event Hulk? At 5* gamma powerbomb costs 14, I don’t recall the 4* number

@BriMan2222 said:

@Gymp28 said:

@BriMan2222 said:

Huh, they upped his pink mana cost back from 9 to 12 in his 5 star version… lame!!

I fully expected this. It starts at 12 when he's a 2 star and only drops as a perk of ascending to 3 and 4 star. Once he's a 5 star he has 5 star match damage on top of his passive that boosts his match damage. He would be pretty nuts if his purple was 9ap and you could fire it immediately with boosts and supports.

Even at 12 if you have widows baton and quantum realm support, if both go off you have 10 purple. Bring a b/p boost and there's a pretty good chance you're firing it turn 0

Actually both those supports give 6ap, so if you have them both you can cast the 5* version turn0 without boosts.

The difference between 9 and 12 isn't nearly as big as between, say, 6 and 9. To get to 9 with no boosts, you need both purple supports to fire, which gets you to 12 anyway.

@BriMan2222 said:

@entrailbucket said:

@BriMan2222 said:

@Gymp28 said:

@BriMan2222 said:

Huh, they upped his pink mana cost back from 9 to 12 in his 5 star version… lame!!

I fully expected this. It starts at 12 when he's a 2 star and only drops as a perk of ascending to 3 and 4 star. Once he's a 5 star he has 5 star match damage on top of his passive that boosts his match damage. He would be pretty nuts if his purple was 9ap and you could fire it immediately with boosts and supports.

Even at 12 if you have widows baton and quantum realm support, if both go off you have 10 purple. Bring a b/p boost and there's a pretty good chance you're firing it turn 0

Actually both those supports give 6ap, so if you have them both you can cast the 5* version turn0 without boosts.

The difference between 9 and 12 isn't nearly as big as between, say, 6 and 9. To get to 9 with no boosts, you need both purple supports to fire, which gets you to 12 anyway.

Mine only give 5, it must go up when you level them up to rank 5?

Yep, at rank 5 they go to 6AP, and the percentage goes to 80%.

@BriMan2222 said:

@entrailbucket said:

@BriMan2222 said:

@entrailbucket said:

@BriMan2222 said:

@Gymp28 said:

@BriMan2222 said:

Huh, they upped his pink mana cost back from 9 to 12 in his 5 star version… lame!!

I fully expected this. It starts at 12 when he's a 2 star and only drops as a perk of ascending to 3 and 4 star. Once he's a 5 star he has 5 star match damage on top of his passive that boosts his match damage. He would be pretty nuts if his purple was 9ap and you could fire it immediately with boosts and supports.

Even at 12 if you have widows baton and quantum realm support, if both go off you have 10 purple. Bring a b/p boost and there's a pretty good chance you're firing it turn 0

Actually both those supports give 6ap, so if you have them both you can cast the 5* version turn0 without boosts.

The difference between 9 and 12 isn't nearly as big as between, say, 6 and 9. To get to 9 with no boosts, you need both purple supports to fire, which gets you to 12 anyway.

Mine only give 5, it must go up when you level them up to rank 5?

Yep, at rank 5 they go to 6AP, and the percentage goes to 80%.

Nice. I'm working on ranking up the batons already.

And you wonder why everyone is using Leapfrog in the PvP Supports Feedback thread

No one wants to be Gamma Powerbombed or Star Unibeamed on turn 1.

KGB

I kept getting crushed by Polaris-cascade teams in the Sentry PvP, so I was trying different stuff, and subbed Silver Samurai into the non-Polaris slot.

He's...really good? I can't figure out what's happening -- he claims to have a 30% chance to dodge and counterattack but it seems to happen WAY more often, and with Polaris strikes out it hits HARD. The Polaris teams rely on doing a ton of hits, so his counterattacks can really shred her. His red is also quite good against those teams. Base level 480, boosted to 599.

@KGB said:

@BriMan2222 said:

@entrailbucket said:

@BriMan2222 said:

@entrailbucket said:

@BriMan2222 said:

@Gymp28 said:

@BriMan2222 said:

Huh, they upped his pink mana cost back from 9 to 12 in his 5 star version… lame!!

I fully expected this. It starts at 12 when he's a 2 star and only drops as a perk of ascending to 3 and 4 star. Once he's a 5 star he has 5 star match damage on top of his passive that boosts his match damage. He would be pretty nuts if his purple was 9ap and you could fire it immediately with boosts and supports.

Even at 12 if you have widows baton and quantum realm support, if both go off you have 10 purple. Bring a b/p boost and there's a pretty good chance you're firing it turn 0

Actually both those supports give 6ap, so if you have them both you can cast the 5* version turn0 without boosts.

The difference between 9 and 12 isn't nearly as big as between, say, 6 and 9. To get to 9 with no boosts, you need both purple supports to fire, which gets you to 12 anyway.

Mine only give 5, it must go up when you level them up to rank 5?

Yep, at rank 5 they go to 6AP, and the percentage goes to 80%.

Nice. I'm working on ranking up the batons already.

And you wonder why everyone is using Leapfrog in the PvP Supports Feedback thread

No one wants to be Gamma Powerbombed or Star Unibeamed on turn 1.

KGB

I don't wonder. They use it for the same reason I have to. Either use it or be an extra big target because you're one of the people not using it. Same reason you needed to run chasm before he was nerfed, or bishop before that, or gambit before that.

@KGB said:

@entrailbucket said:
I kept getting crushed by Polaris-cascade teams in the Sentry PvP, so I was trying different stuff, and subbed Silver Samurai into the non-Polaris slot.

He's...really good? I can't figure out what's happening -- he claims to have a 30% chance to dodge and counterattack but it seems to happen WAY more often, and with Polaris strikes out it hits HARD. The Polaris teams rely on doing a ton of hits, so his counterattacks can really shred her. His red is also quite good against those teams. Base level 480, boosted to 599.

Very solid numbers when boosted.

If you had his Yellow CD out the block chance would be up to 65% (+35).

KGB

Aha! That makes sense. The yellow is so cheap I'd cast it all the time to protect my Polaris. I also think the sheer number of hits Polaris does probably made it feel like it was triggering a ton.

Also, for some reason he's an Archer, so I had him carrying the even-better version of Eros Arrow. It worked well against the 672 Polaris/x teams (my Polaris is like 500 pre boost).

That was fast, thanks for posting. Those percentages are definitely not the same, but he is probably still pretty good.

The ally damage buff on black was cut in half (basically) at 60% and his bread and butter (pink) dropped from 21% to 13, while also reducing the stun from 3 to 2.

What is his health at though? Might still be worth keeping him max 4 star if his health is too high to take advantage of his pink.