Adventures with 5* Wasp.

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  • Borstock
    Borstock Posts: 3,017 Chairperson of the Boards

    @dianetics said:
    BCS should strait gift him a 550 Wasp at this point and then place him outside of the natural matchmaking.

    I love this idea.

  • ThisisClemFandango
    ThisisClemFandango Posts: 1,074 Chairperson of the Boards

    5 star Wasp has been updated

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 7,012 Chairperson of the Boards

    I don't have it yet! What does she do now?

  • Rod5
    Rod5 Posts: 598 Critical Contributor

    No update on iOS, calling bull**** on the “update”

  • ThisisClemFandango
    ThisisClemFandango Posts: 1,074 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited February 2023

    And I can't post the screen shots

    Blue steals ap and creates locked swarm tiles, yellow turns ally invisible and creates swarm tiles, black steals health and creates swarm tiles
    4 swarm tiles needed to call the swarm which does low damage but increases hopes match damage by 10% each time.

  • Rod5
    Rod5 Posts: 598 Critical Contributor
    edited February 2023

    @ThisisClemFandango said:
    And I can't post the screen shots

    Blue steals ap and creates locked swarm tiles, yellow turns ally invisible and creates swarm tiles, black steals health and creates swarm tiles
    4 swarm tiles needed to call the swarm

    That’s what her powers did before

    What are the numbers?

  • rainkingucd
    rainkingucd Posts: 1,532 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited February 2023

    Numbers seem unchanged just a new passive match damage increase

    At 458, call the swarm does 7355 damage for 12 AP

    Edit: I don't think the update is full live. No match damage update. Seems just the passive turned on and that's it

  • ThisisClemFandango
    ThisisClemFandango Posts: 1,074 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited February 2023

    Ap costs are 6 10 and 10. I could of sworn call the swarm didn't increase her match damage. Also I don't remember the locked and swarm on cds. If I'm wrong I apologise. I never use her because well she's Wasp.

  • Rod5
    Rod5 Posts: 598 Critical Contributor

    Yeah that’s just not changed.

    12AP for 7k damage? Absolutely nothing for huge AP cost, and no new passive.

    Nothing to see here, the real buff will come I’m sure.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 7,012 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited February 2023

    Hahahahahaha, she was so bad before that none of us actually knew what she did! I admit that I checked her (non updated) power set in game and went "that's it?"

    Edit: for posterity, pre buff lvl524 Call the Swarm does 12,232 damage.

  • Rod5
    Rod5 Posts: 598 Critical Contributor

    @entrailbucket said:
    Hahahahahaha, she was so bad before that none of us actually knew what she did! I admit that I checked her (non updated) power set in game and went "that's it?"

    Edit: for posterity, pre buff lvl524 Call the Swarm does 12,232 damage.

    And for 12AP…worst 5* power in the game for my money

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 7,012 Chairperson of the Boards

    How dare you -- insulting Wasp in Mr_F's thread!?!

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    It probably is, though. It achieves the rare golden trifecta of weak, expensive, and complicated.

  • Vhailorx
    Vhailorx Posts: 6,085 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited February 2023

    @entrailbucket said:
    How dare you -- insulting Wasp in Mr_F's thread!?!

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    It probably is, though. It achieves the rare golden trifecta of weak, expensive, and complicated.

    It has always been stunning that this power made it through development and testing. Just a total failure in every way that matters to mpq. Sorry Mr. F, it's just the truth; no shame in liking something despite it's flaws (or even because of them).

    And fwiw, she appears completely unchanged to me in game.

  • Bad
    Bad Posts: 3,146 Chairperson of the Boards

    A character dealing 12k damage per 12 APs on level 520 is exactly the same as playing Mortal Kombat and finishing the battle with the Friendship move.

  • Vhailorx
    Vhailorx Posts: 6,085 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Bad said:
    A character dealing 12k damage per 12 APs on level 520 is exactly the same as playing Mortal Kombat and finishing the battle with the Friendship move.

    It's actually much worse than that because you need to get enough swarm tiles to even be able to waste the 12 ap. She doesn't make them passively, so you need 12-20 additional ap to cast her blue or yellow at least twice.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 7,012 Chairperson of the Boards

    I don't remember exactly but I think she happened during a time when they were being very careful about power levels. Maybe she was relatively soon after the Gambit nerf?

  • HoundofShadow
    HoundofShadow Posts: 8,004 Chairperson of the Boards

    I remember that tiles destruction which leads to potential cascades seems to be highly valued. On top of that, her tiles destruction gained around 200% damage increment, which at that time was rare. So, she was destroying 12-15 tiles with ~200% damage increment, which at that time, is pretty decent. Now, with characters like Colossus or SC, her damage increment can't match the new releases, which is normal.

  • Pantera236
    Pantera236 Posts: 604 Critical Contributor

    @entrailbucket said:
    I don't remember exactly but I think she happened during a time when they were being very careful about power levels. Maybe she was relatively soon after the Gambit nerf?

    Gambit's nerf thread is dated 6-26-18 and wasp's intro thread says July 2018 so yeah, spot on!

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 7,012 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Pantera236 said:

    @entrailbucket said:
    I don't remember exactly but I think she happened during a time when they were being very careful about power levels. Maybe she was relatively soon after the Gambit nerf?

    Gambit's nerf thread is dated 6-26-18 and wasp's intro thread says July 2018 so yeah, spot on!

    Ok that's creepy. I should not remember that.

    The way I remember it: I think Okoye showed up just a bit before Gambit did, then Gambit got killed, then after that was just an absolutely horrifically bad run of 5*, up until Apocalypse and Hulk basically. We'll never know, but I think Gambit freaked them out and they overreacted.

  • Omegased
    Omegased Posts: 626 Critical Contributor
    edited February 2023

    @entrailbucket said:

    @Pantera236 said:

    @entrailbucket said:
    I don't remember exactly but I think she happened during a time when they were being very careful about power levels. Maybe she was relatively soon after the Gambit nerf?

    Gambit's nerf thread is dated 6-26-18 and wasp's intro thread says July 2018 so yeah, spot on!

    Ok that's creepy. I should not remember that.

    The way I remember it: I think Okoye showed up just a bit before Gambit did, then Gambit got killed, then after that was just an absolutely horrifically bad run of 5*, up until Apocalypse and Hulk basically. We'll never know, but I think Gambit freaked them out and they overreacted.

    I think you're over-exaggerating a little. we did have a couple of good releases before ihulk. I'd say Kitty was the start of the great drought. 9 months of arguably some very dull characters (iceman maybe? Captain marvel before she got steath nerfed?)

    Okoye
    Wasp
    Loki
    Kitty Pryde
    Cable
    Kingpin
    Doctor Doom
    Captain Marvel
    Hela
    Rescue
    Storm
    Iceman
    Professor X
    Carnage
    Beta Ray Bill
    Mister Sinister
    Havok
    The Hulk

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