*** Sentry (Dark Avengers) ***

hurcules

OnesOwnGrief wrote:

Would half of that be considered 20%? My testing with Avoid and Hulk would suggest that it's considered two separate hits since it gives 2 anger tiles with Avoid.

Not sure what you mean by that.

OnesOwnGrief

hurcules wrote:

OnesOwnGrief wrote:

Would half of that be considered 20%? My testing with Avoid and Hulk would suggest that it's considered two separate hits since it gives 2 anger tiles with Avoid.

Not sure what you mean by that.

If Deadpool jumped in front of the attack, he would have taken 2 hits instead of a single hit. CStorm works in a way in which a single hit has to be 20% or more. Going off my testing with Hawkeye's Avoid and Hulk, Hulk would generate 2 anger tiles per Supernova leading to the conclusion he took 2 hits but it displayed a single number. Each hit would have totaled 5% separately activating the ability.
The way Deadpool's ability works, he would have jumped in front and absorbed 2 hits from an AOE but still only generate 1 healing tile. CStorm would just squaring there undamaged in the end.

hurcules

OnesOwnGrief wrote:

hurcules wrote:

OnesOwnGrief wrote:

Would half of that be considered 20%? My testing with Avoid and Hulk would suggest that it's considered two separate hits since it gives 2 anger tiles with Avoid.

Not sure what you mean by that.

If Deadpool jumped in front of the attack, he would have taken 2 hits instead of a single hit. CStorm works in a way in which a single hit has to be 20% or more. Going off my testing with Hawkeye's Avoid and Hulk, Hulk would generate 2 anger tiles per Supernova leading to the conclusion he took 2 hits but it displayed a single number. Each hit would have totaled 5% separately activating the ability.
The way Deadpool's ability works, he would have jumped in front and absorbed 2 hits from an AOE but still only generate 1 healing tile. CStorm would just squaring there undamaged in the end.

Ahh, ok. But my Deadpool is 1/0/0 with no black cover. So he wouldn't have protected anyone. I can use another low level player in place of Deadpool and see.

OnesOwnGrief

hurcules wrote:

OnesOwnGrief wrote:

hurcules wrote:

OnesOwnGrief wrote:

Would half of that be considered 20%? My testing with Avoid and Hulk would suggest that it's considered two separate hits since it gives 2 anger tiles with Avoid.

Not sure what you mean by that.

If Deadpool jumped in front of the attack, he would have taken 2 hits instead of a single hit. CStorm works in a way in which a single hit has to be 20% or more. Going off my testing with Hawkeye's Avoid and Hulk, Hulk would generate 2 anger tiles per Supernova leading to the conclusion he took 2 hits but it displayed a single number. Each hit would have totaled 5% separately activating the ability.
The way Deadpool's ability works, he would have jumped in front and absorbed 2 hits from an AOE but still only generate 1 healing tile. CStorm would just squaring there undamaged in the end.

Ahh, ok. But my Deadpool is 1/0/0 with no black cover. So he wouldn't have protected anyone. I can use another low level player in place of Deadpool and see.

Actually, my information was of. Rank 1 Supernova was 19% of Sentry's health at 40. From there it continues to decrease as you rank it up. Odds are you can't force proc Rage of Tempests. I'll have to go test this myself.

Unknown

He sacrificed himself so I could win.

I feel like I owe him a beer at least, now.

FaerieMyst

Awww man . . . . can you imagine drinking beer with this guy. He's so self-destructive that there's no telling what he'd do with a little alcohol in the system.

farlus

I'd just want to liquor him up so he'd let me run my fingers through his glorious hair. And I'm a heterosexual married man.

JamieMadrox

farlus wrote:

I'd just want to liquor him up so he'd let me run my fingers through his glorious hair. And I'm a heterosexual married man.

farlus

Oh boy. Calling someone gay on the internet. USING AN IMAGE! You're a pioneer.

Kelbris

farlus wrote:

Oh boy. Calling someone gay on the internet. USING AN IMAGE! You're a pioneer.

How's this?

Bill Burr - "What Are You, A Fag!?": http://youtu.be/7LRcmg9mxRQ

JamieMadrox

farlus wrote:

Oh boy. Calling someone gay on the internet. USING AN IMAGE! You're a pioneer.

I know. I'm a trailblazer. Next I'll drop Line for IRC.

Phaserhawk

I'm really starting to lean 5/5/3 for Sentry. I have him 3/5/5 but I try not to cast yellow if I don't have to, and at lvl 3 it's still strong enough, not to mention we have Black Panther now who can cast battleplan instead and save you the health hit. What's everyone's thought?

hurcules

Phaserhawk wrote:

I'm really starting to lean 5/5/3 for Sentry. I have him 3/5/5 but I try not to cast yellow if I don't have to, and at lvl 3 it's still strong enough, not to mention we have Black Panther now who can cast battleplan instead and save you the health hit. What's everyone's thought?

I'm still leaning on 3/5/5 because of Hulk. LDaken strike tiles + WR may not be enough to take down Hulk.

But yeah, Cap Marvel 5 yellow + Sentry 5 red is a scary prospect to face.

NorthernPolarity

Phaserhawk wrote:

I'm really starting to lean 5/5/3 for Sentry. I have him 3/5/5 but I try not to cast yellow if I don't have to, and at lvl 3 it's still strong enough, not to mention we have Black Panther now who can cast battleplan instead and save you the health hit. What's everyone's thought?

Supernova is just really miserable to use on offense unless youre desperate due to the damage your entire team takes. Id much rather just have the option of being able to sacrifice world rupture at slightly less health cost. I dont think defense matters much since the difference between 3 and 5 red could only be 400 damage due to the logic above, and optimizing for offense is more important in this case since the odds of 3->5 supernova mattering on defense (you need to get 11ap on defense, and then there needs to be enough red tiles onboard to get the significant damage boost) seems low enough to not be worth considering.

vudu3

Phaserhawk wrote:

I'm really starting to lean 5/5/3 for Sentry. I have him 3/5/5 but I try not to cast yellow if I don't have to, and at lvl 3 it's still strong enough, not to mention we have Black Panther now who can cast battleplan instead and save you the health hit. What's everyone's thought?

It depends entirely on how you use Sentry. I use him almost exclusively for a defense team and shield-hopping. In both cases I don't care about self-damage so I'll trigger Sacrifice whenever possible. As hurcules said, World Rupture + Sacrifice will take down any team. I rarely use Supernova because when shield-hopping it's unlikely I'm going to collect 11 red and even if I do it generally won't end the game.

OnesOwnGrief

Black Panther with Battle plan is still good alternative to using Sacrifice and a lot safer as there is less of a chance they will get rid of each strike tile. Had a few times in which the AI got rid of the sacrifice tile of a cascade and it completely killed the World Rupture damage I was expecting.

vudu3

OnesOwnGrief wrote:

Black Panther with Battle plan is still good alternative to using Sacrifice and a lot safer as there is less of a chance they will get rid of each strike tile. Had a few times in which the AI got rid of the sacrifice tile of a cascade and it completely killed the World Rupture damage I was expecting.

Which is why Sentry loves Hood with 5 black covers--the enemy doesn't have a chance to eliminate your strike tile if they don't get a turn between Sacrifice and World Rupture.

Kelbris

Why the **** should they have a different speed than ally WR?

john1620b

I agree, something in the last major update changed the way ability timing was processed. This is most noticeable during World Rupture, because there are so many countdown tiles, but every opponent ability has a slight delay now when used.

I seriously hope this is fixed in a future update, because it does add seconds to each match, which adds up to hours over the life of the game. Hours just waiting around, watching animations... (Unless you do dishes while you play, like I do, in which case you can at least do something productive.)

Twysta

This is because people made comments about how they'd like games to go faster - get rid of skip screens / turn off animations.

So in the interest of (the devs) public relations they decided to give you/us all the bird.