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  • liminal_lad
    liminal_lad Posts: 477 Mover and Shaker

    @Borstock said:

    @entrailbucket said:

    @WhiteBomber said:

    @entrailbucket said:

    @WhiteBomber said:
    It cost Shang half the AP to do 5x that damage and they share red, I don't like it. Maybe if IM was fun to play. I suppose people still run him for his yella though.

    Oh, I can't see building around this, or (probably) ever even casting it. But it's a totally crazy number for an unboosted 450.

    True, if the game didn't have ridiculously unbalanced characters, that is a large single cast no special circumstances hit.

    Is there any way to share ISO yet? You have sooooooo much and I think I need most of it.

    I wish they gave us some way to get rid of the stuff...

    43mil here. I'd accept almost anything they offered, no matter how ridiculous. It's just sitting there. One million iso for 5 CPs? Sure, whatever.

    My 7.5 million feels downright paltry now.

  • Pantera236
    Pantera236 Posts: 526 Critical Contributor

    His purple is great and all, and his green can be a big nuke. That black though... With 100k health at 450 and 45 - 50% damage reduction that can't be turned off 😱 at 672 he'll have like 500k health and with everything you hit him with doing half that's like having a million health.

  • dianetics
    dianetics Posts: 1,653 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Pantera236 said:
    His purple is great and all, and his green can be a big nuke. That black though... With 100k health at 450 and 45 - 50% damage reduction that can't be turned off 😱 at 672 he'll have like 500k health and with everything you hit him with doing half that's like having a million health.

    He quickly turns into a problem. Hitting for upwards of 10-17k at level 450. His green often hits for 50k+ for me. SheThor basically can't get her engine going. So I leave her up and just let her buff him while he takes everyone else down.

    I think his purple might be his best ability, since you can burn AP you don't need. One cast gives you up to an extra 3,600 base match damage. So a standard match 3 black will do something like 15-20k. I did a regular match-4 black for 75k

  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,470 Chairperson of the Boards

    How does he interact with Sighclops? Is it even worth messing with his yellow?

  • dianetics
    dianetics Posts: 1,653 Chairperson of the Boards

    I stuck him with May for a bit and match 3 black for 75k. Sighclops should work in a similar manner.

  • Domitronas
    Domitronas Posts: 179 Tile Toppler
    edited 23 May 2024, 18:36

    Not sure if you can search the thread, but has anyone mentioned Cloak&Dagger yet? Wondering how they would fare as a 5*, I have a max and a dupe at 13 covers, not sure if I should do it

  • WhiteBomber
    WhiteBomber Posts: 399 Mover and Shaker
    edited 23 May 2024, 19:33

    It's their only shot at being useful, I personally would do it. Their kit is kind of fun, perhaps @entrailbucket already has.

    Confirmed, Bucket has em at like 480somethin. 8k healing or black/yellow battery not too shabby, hard to say since I didn't run them often enough in their crippled 4* variant.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 5,965 Chairperson of the Boards

    @WhiteBomber said:
    It's their only shot at being useful, I personally would do it. Their kit is kind of fun, perhaps @entrailbucket already has.

    Confirmed, Bucket has em at like 480somethin. 8k healing or black/yellow battery not too shabby, hard to say since I didn't run them often enough in their crippled 4* variant.

    I haven't used them but the numbers and power set seem reasonable. I'd probably try to exploit the super cheap purple power with someone who does something every time you cast a power -- 3ap powers are pretty rare!

  • Domitronas
    Domitronas Posts: 179 Tile Toppler
    edited 24 May 2024, 06:00

    @entrailbucket said:

    @WhiteBomber said:
    It's their only shot at being useful, I personally would do it. Their kit is kind of fun, perhaps @entrailbucket already has.

    Confirmed, Bucket has em at like 480somethin. 8k healing or black/yellow battery not too shabby, hard to say since I didn't run them often enough in their crippled 4* variant.

    I haven't used them but the numbers and power set seem reasonable. I'd probably try to exploit the super cheap purple power with someone who does something every time you cast a power -- 3ap powers are pretty rare!

    If you do have many of the 4s ascended could you also check Human Torch (hammond) and the multiple man? I think I might be up to something here. Start the match with all AP +1 and spam every variant of multiple man's power. Wondering how much in strike tiles that would get from Torch. At 4* it's not really significant, but might be pretty strong when ascended

    EDIT: coulson + multiple man + hammond could be huge at high enough levels, 6 turn 1 cds + 6 huge strike tiles

  • WhiteBomber
    WhiteBomber Posts: 399 Mover and Shaker

    Has anyone played as OR against the ascended Moondragon + 5Phyla yet?

    I'm picking my next 4 to ascend and Moondragon isn't crazy far off, but as a 4star she is useless, not sure if she makes sense as a 5 (outside of with Hulk). I really like Phyla, but she destroys health packs. I think @Daredevil217 was thinking of trying this one also.

    If no one knows, can you please try this one our for me @entrailbucket ?

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 5,965 Chairperson of the Boards

    Sorry, I haven't found a good use for Moondragon besides the iHulk team. The problem is that she hurts everybody else so badly when she's tanking, you kind of need to pair her with an immortal or a mass healer. Maybe M'baku would work for that?

    I haven't tried her with Phylla-Vell, and I've barely used Phylla anyway. I'll mess around with her when she's boosted again, last time she was too low level for me.

  • WhiteBomber
    WhiteBomber Posts: 399 Mover and Shaker

    mm, if she isn't very versatile I probably shouldn't focus her anyway. I wish it could be Coulson but at level 278 that fool is my lowest 4star. Perhaps Indi Spider? He seems like he could be quite annoying in PVP with Chasm. Otherwise it might be Beast, he is only 60 levels away and seems quite good (while also being fun).

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 5,965 Chairperson of the Boards

    @WhiteBomber said:
    mm, if she isn't very versatile I probably shouldn't focus her anyway. I wish it could be Coulson but at level 278 that fool is my lowest 4star. Perhaps Indi Spider? He seems like he could be quite annoying in PVP with Chasm. Otherwise it might be Beast, he is only 60 levels away and seems quite good (while also being fun).

    Coulson has been bonused since day 1 of ascension for me (along with whoever the newest 4* are) and he's a murderer. Mine is 530 or something and I use him unboosted in shield sim now vs walls of 550 meta guys -- he's that good.

    Spiderman India is very very strong -- he's the best web tile spammer, he has a passive dodge, and his AoE is insane.

    Beast is another great pick -- his match damage boost gets out of control, and the rest of his powers are meant to support that.

    If you have specific questions on numbers, just check out my roster, I'm in the alliance Clochards (and will be forever).

  • WhiteBomber
    WhiteBomber Posts: 399 Mover and Shaker

    Oh yeah, I've checked your roster multiple times in the past. However, swimming through your roster isn't the most fun without any filters. I've even ruled out a few by checking (damn your nerf BOOOONG!).

    I just finished my 2nd (Dlocke and Karnak) and since Locke isn't really a fun character, I'm thinking someone fun. I already love Beast on multiple teams and Coulson is just too far away. I would love to do a web team, but then I have to choose 2 instead of one.

  • WhiteBomber
    WhiteBomber Posts: 399 Mover and Shaker
    edited 31 May 2024, 22:53

    Are any of the annoying tanks actually fun to play? Blob, Rogue etc.? Blob seems liike maaaybe.

    @entrailbucket any chance you've tried IndiSpider (5,5,3) with Chasm to be an annoying defensive team?

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 5,965 Chairperson of the Boards

    @WhiteBomber said:
    Are any of the annoying tanks actually fun to play? Blob, Rogue etc.? Blob seems liike maaaybe.

    Blob/Polaris/Hawkeye (or Kang) is actually a hilarious team -- give that one a shot sometime, you don't even need anyone ascended. (Seriously, I love that team).

    Rogue is ok -- her green power does crazy damage and she's definitely annoying to fight.

    As for other tanks, Rhino is pretty fun. M'baku is great, but you probably already knew that. And don't forget Thing and Red Hulk!

  • WhiteBomber
    WhiteBomber Posts: 399 Mover and Shaker
    edited 31 May 2024, 23:32

    Tried it and go destroyed! Though it should be noted:

    • Blob lvl 100 (sitting on 23 covers, no ISO)
    • Polaris lvl 330 or somethin
    • 5Hawk 3,3,4 lvl 3somethin

    VS

    • Champ Onslaught
    • Champ 5Thanos
    • Someone else lame I forget

    1 accidental match 4 killed Blob and it was over. I totally get the team though, very fun in concept! (which is hard to do w/ Polaris nowadays)

    If only they had a god damned practice sim!! This game needs that more than anything now that they fixed 4stars being useless.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 5,965 Chairperson of the Boards

    @WhiteBomber said:
    Are any of the annoying tanks actually fun to play? Blob, Rogue etc.? Blob seems liike maaaybe.

    @entrailbucket any chance you've tried IndiSpider (5,5,3) with Chasm to be an annoying defensive team?

    Sorry, I didn't see this one. I have a feeling the Chasm/India team isn't all that great. Chasm just doesn't seem to heal much anymore? It might work, but Chasm probably has better partners.

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