Champions 2.0 Post-launch FAQ and Discussion

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  • CouchPanda
    CouchPanda Posts: 29 Just Dropped In

    I know in the initial Q&As at launch it was stated that ascended characters couldn’t be used for say a PVP with required original character but I’ve come across a few ascended magnetos in the lightning round, admittedly though they didn’t have the boost applied whereas the 3*s did.

    Is this how it will look/be outside of lightning rounds?

  • Bowgentle
    Bowgentle Posts: 7,926 Chairperson of the Boards

    They said you can't use them where * restrictions are applied.
    LRs use "Magneto (Classic)", so any version of him works, ascended or not.

  • rainkingucd
    rainkingucd Posts: 1,419 Chairperson of the Boards

    @ThaRoadWarrior said:
    Are y’all backfilling your 4s with new dupes or just applying new covers to the 5? I’ve started new 4* versions on the off chance they’ll be required since most of my 5* roster is under 480 anyway.

    I think I'm going to dupe the "better lower" 4* like 4Pool and Valkyrie, or at the very least just the passive covers to 5. I ascended Valkyrie to double dip on the rewards, but like @Omegased , i tended to use my L280ish dupe more often just to trigger the passives easier.

  • Markot
    Markot Posts: 87 Match Maker

    My theory - every cover used towards a level gives a reward of this level even if you need 3 or 4 for one level. Therefore its 4 times more for merged 4* as it takes 4 covers for one 5* level. For merged 3* you need 3 covers for a level, so you get 3 times more rewards. And obviously for 2* merged you get twice as much rewards as you should.
    Confirmation of the theory are CPs for 3*. 3x40 (40 is the amount counted on reached levels) would be 120, but 100 covers are 33 levels and one cover extra which goes to level 304 where the reward is 4CP. This reward you get just once for this one cover, hence the total is 124CP.

    And this error is only from covers used from merged characters. I used 2 extra covers for ascended magneto at 303 and 1/3 level. First one was without rewards, second one took him to 304, so I got 4CP. This is the way it was planned, I think.

  • Bowgentle
    Bowgentle Posts: 7,926 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited September 2023

    @Markot said:
    My theory - every cover used towards a level gives a reward of this level even if you need 3 or 4 for one level. Therefore its 4 times more for merged 4* as it takes 4 covers for one 5* level. For merged 3* you need 3 covers for a level, so you get 3 times more rewards. And obviously for 2* merged you get twice as much rewards as you should.
    Confirmation of the theory are CPs for 3*. 3x40 (40 is the amount counted on reached levels) would be 120, but 100 covers are 33 levels and one cover extra which goes to level 304 where the reward is 4CP. This reward you get just once for this one cover, hence the total is 124CP.

    And this error is only from covers used from merged characters. I used 2 extra covers for ascended magneto at 303 and 1/3 level. First one was without rewards, second one took him to 304, so I got 4CP. This is the way it was planned, I think.

    Read that wrong.
    Yes the added cover bit is how merging should have worked, I think.

  • Daredevil217
    Daredevil217 Posts: 3,966 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Markot said:
    My theory - every cover used towards a level gives a reward of this level even if you need 3 or 4 for one level. Therefore its 4 times more for merged 4* as it takes 4 covers for one 5* level. For merged 3* you need 3 covers for a level, so you get 3 times more rewards. And obviously for 2* merged you get twice as much rewards as you should.
    Confirmation of the theory are CPs for 3*. 3x40 (40 is the amount counted on reached levels) would be 120, but 100 covers are 33 levels and one cover extra which goes to level 304 where the reward is 4CP. This reward you get just once for this one cover, hence the total is 124CP.

    And this error is only from covers used from merged characters. I used 2 extra covers for ascended magneto at 303 and 1/3 level. First one was without rewards, second one took him to 304, so I got 4CP. This is the way it was planned, I think.

    So this is a bug and we should merge all we can now?

  • Bowgentle
    Bowgentle Posts: 7,926 Chairperson of the Boards

    Oh read that wrong.
    Yes the adding covers after merging is how it should work yes.

  • BlixTheFrog
    BlixTheFrog Posts: 190 Tile Toppler

    @Daredevil217 said:

    @Markot said:
    My theory - every cover used towards a level gives a reward of this level even if you need 3 or 4 for one level. Therefore its 4 times more for merged 4* as it takes 4 covers for one 5* level. For merged 3* you need 3 covers for a level, so you get 3 times more rewards. And obviously for 2* merged you get twice as much rewards as you should.
    Confirmation of the theory are CPs for 3*. 3x40 (40 is the amount counted on reached levels) would be 120, but 100 covers are 33 levels and one cover extra which goes to level 304 where the reward is 4CP. This reward you get just once for this one cover, hence the total is 124CP.

    And this error is only from covers used from merged characters. I used 2 extra covers for ascended magneto at 303 and 1/3 level. First one was without rewards, second one took him to 304, so I got 4CP. This is the way it was planned, I think.

    So this is a bug and we should merge all we can now?

    Quite clearly.

  • Tony_Foot
    Tony_Foot Posts: 1,812 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Daredevil217 said:

    So this is a bug and we should merge all we can now?

    My plan was only ever to merge two max levels as I wasn't interested really or in a rush. With the bug I merged all the 3* I could regardless of level. It gave me 73 LT (9000HP and 600CP) and I couldn't say no to that. I wasn't able to do all them all as I didn't have a dupe ready.

    I'm still not doing the 4* as I will wait for max champ and play the longer game. I really don't have enough dupes in that tier to worry about the bonus reward error.

  • stef_focus
    stef_focus Posts: 111 Tile Toppler
    edited September 2023

    Has anybody been able to try if it is possible to apply a cover as a saved cover, if there is an ascended version that can be leveled?
    For instance, you have a 3* Storm(Mohawk) with 2 green/2 yellow / 5 black and an Ascended 3* Storm(Mohawk) that is not max champed.
    If I get another Black 3* Storm cover, is it possible to put it as a saved cover on the 2/2/5 non-ascended version? And if so, how do you do that?

    Edit: The default action in the inbox is adding a cover to an ascended character rather than training the non-ascended version. A new yellow 3* storm gets applied as a partial level for the ascended version, and not to raise the 2/2/5 to 2/3/5, and you also do not get a chocie after you clicked the default action in the inbox.

  • DrClever
    DrClever Posts: 584 Critical Contributor

    Do we know anything about team ups sent from ascended characters yet?

  • gmp72
    gmp72 Posts: 164 Tile Toppler

    Took Ascended 4* Moon Knight into a SIM match.
    On the ready screen his green is supposed to do 50k damage - in game it reverted to the original 4* version damage.
    Anyone else have issues with old level powers in game ?

  • BlixTheFrog
    BlixTheFrog Posts: 190 Tile Toppler

    @Tony_Foot said:

    @Daredevil217 said:

    So this is a bug and we should merge all we can now?

    My plan was only ever to merge two max levels as I wasn't interested really or in a rush. With the bug I merged all the 3* I could regardless of level. It gave me 73 LT (9000HP and 600CP) and I couldn't say no to that. I wasn't able to do all them all as I didn't have a dupe ready.

    I'm still not doing the 4* as I will wait for max champ and play the longer game. I really don't have enough dupes in that tier to worry about the bonus reward error.

    You can also consider the first batch is for the cool bonus rewards, and build up the rest of your 4 stars to double-max for when they’ll be ascendable. Best of both worlds.

  • Zalasta
    Zalasta Posts: 285 Mover and Shaker

    I ascended Sentry, and his power numbers look pretty sad.

  • Helinutz
    Helinutz Posts: 51 Match Maker

    With 4* ascension, do you think it makes sense to take the dupe to 280 so you get the full 5* feeder cover (as long as it is a feeder) and then merge? Like everyone else, im just trying to come up with the best option for the standard player like myself

  • Hammer3001
    Hammer3001 Posts: 150 Tile Toppler

    When is Apple going to offer the update?

  • killercool
    killercool Posts: 280 Mover and Shaker

    @Hammer3001 said:
    When is Apple going to offer the update?

    About 10 hours ago (at least that is when I downloaded it on my iPad).

  • Punter1
    Punter1 Posts: 729 Critical Contributor
    edited September 2023

    @Tony_Foot said:

    @Daredevil217 said:

    So this is a bug and we should merge all we can now?

    My plan was only ever to merge two max levels as I wasn't interested really or in a rush. With the bug I merged all the 3* I could regardless of level. It gave me 73 LT (9000HP and 600CP) and I couldn't say no to that. I wasn't able to do all them all as I didn't have a dupe ready.

    I'm still not doing the 4* as I will wait for max champ and play the longer game. I really don't have enough dupes in that tier to worry about the bonus reward error.

    Did my 3* as it seems silly not to currently despite all the math fun on optimal rewards. 3x rewards is definitely coming in, monitored on the first one.

    Did 11 3*s that I could, dupes at 230avg. 91 LT , 796 CP, 9,100HP and 445k ISO rewards! Whoop

    NB - adding covers after ascension does NOT get extra rewards and appears to be working as intended, added cover 2 of 3 to an ascended Deadpool and nothing came in. So pull tokens and level up your characters BEFORE ascension

  • DyingLegend
    DyingLegend Posts: 1,208 Chairperson of the Boards

    Yeah, I'm not sure about upgrading anyone yet. I did Medusa, but wasn't too impressed.

    I don't really have the roster space or ISO to start duping everyone in the game.

    I think i will just ignore the feature until I'm Roster/ ISO positive.

  • captainheath
    captainheath Posts: 255 Mover and Shaker

    Medusa's match damage is very high after ascending. I was hoping it wouldn't overshadow Okoye, but alas it did. Even though Okoye is about 20 levels higher.

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